Re: [uf-discuss] Formatting arbitrary dates, not part of hCalendar

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ara Pehlivanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I've always had trouble with the idea of using abbr to mark up dates because semantically, it isn't expressing an abbreviation of any sort. That's particularly true of: abbr class=dtend title=2007-04-0130 March/abbr

Re: [uf-discuss] SVG hCard example; sharing profiles?

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny Ayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I couldn't find an example of microformats used in SVG, so I made one http://dannyayers.com/misc/microformats/hcard-svg Interestingly, operator doesn't detect that (neither does Tails) -- Andy Mabbett

Re: [uf-discuss] [Zen of Microformats] Two Fundamental Principles of Information Design

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 08/03/2007 19:43, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: What I think your contrast of microformats' bottleneck with the web's free growth is missing is the notion that there indeed /was/ a bottleneck in the development of the web in the

Re: [uf-discuss] Formatting arbitrary dates, not part of hCalendar

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Jonkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Andy Mabbett suggested a class of dtstamp which comes closer to what I intend, but the iCalendar property DTSTAMP is specifically meant to indicate when an iCalendar object was created, which is not the case here. Fair

[uf-discuss] Participation of specialists (Was: Not all semantic HTML is a microformat)

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes selfdescription.org If nothing else, that seems very badly named. Anyone on the microformats list interested in collection description? Maybe there are some librarians or archivists. If there aren't then it appears to be

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ara Pehlivanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Tel.: (514) 123-4567 Fax: (514) 123-4568 Yet with the required voice/fax types it ends up like this: Voice Tel.: (514) 123-4567 Fax Fax: (514) 123-4568 or in the French version of the page: Voice Tél.: (514) 123-4567 Fax

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard email type properties

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim Franch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com foo .com is registered; please use example.com, which is reserved for such purposes, for your examples. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example.com and RFC 2606, Section 3:

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes p class=telabbr class=type title=faxTéléc/abbr: span class=value(514) 123-4568/span/p This is a misuse of abbr at best. See: open issue! 2007-01-26 http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-issues I also see that you are the

Re: [uf-discuss] Formatting arbitrary dates, not part of hCalendar

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes This is for both for screen readers and disabiguation of dates such as 3/2/2006 or 02-03-06. That's an important consideration. As I'm to believe, screen readers will read out both parts of the date information. As such,

Re: [uf-discuss] Geo Elevation Data

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ol class=geo-route li class=geo Latitude: abbr class=latitude title=-83.0-83./abbr Longitude: abbr class=longitude title=43.043./abbr Elevation: abbr class=elevation title=2012.02012./abbr li etc

Re: [uf-discuss] Geo Elevation Data

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I can certainly submit a proposal for the route format Please follow the process: http://microformats.org/wiki/process Will do. Thanks for your help. Please be aware of:

Re: [uf-discuss] Formatting arbitrary dates, not part of hCalendar

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes you might write the date as 4/7/76 and force the reader to find and use the abbreviation, but as someone who cares enough to create a datetime design pattern, it should be obvious that writing the date as July 4, 1776 solves

Re: [uf-discuss] Geo Elevation Data

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes My first question is whether elevation has been proposed as part of the geo draft specification? Adding the third dimension would seem natural and would add additional precision when adopted. Unfortunately the third

Re: [uf-discuss] Geo Elevation Data

2007-03-19 Thread Alexander Graf
Am 15.03.2007 um 20:52 schrieb Andy Mabbett: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ol class=geo-route li class=geo Latitude: abbr class=latitude title=-83.0-83./abbr Longitude: abbr class=longitude title=43.043./abbr Elevation: abbr

[uf-discuss] Ficlets and microformats

2007-03-19 Thread Jason Garber
(Apologies if this made it to the list, but I think my original bounced) I'm happy to announce the recent launch of Ficlets (ficlets.com... fancy that), a social micro-fiction site built by a small five-person team at AOL. I won't belabor you all with the who's, why's, and wherefore's (you

[uf-discuss] OT: Free Andy Mabbet!

2007-03-19 Thread Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
Hi all, With only two weeks left in Lent, I still haven't done enough penance, so I figure I need to up the ante. :-) I didn't see any response to my governance proposal http://urlx.org/ microformats.org/56ce1, so let me make a more specific request. I for one fully supported the

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

2007-03-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
Andy Mabbett wrote: Can you cite evidence that it's currently accepted for non-English content, as in the above example; or clarify those sufficient grounds for its use in such cases, please? This would be the first defining instance of such a use. If there are other currently accepted

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

2007-03-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
Andy Mabbett wrote: Ara Pehlivanian writes Voice Tél.: (514) 123-4567 Fax Téléc.: (514) 123-4568 abbr class=type title=voiceTélabbr abbr class=type title=faxTélécabbr Though there are concerns that that's an abuse of abbr. There is a possible alternative, inspired from

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

2007-03-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
From: Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mabbett wrote: Ara Pehlivanian writes Voice Tél.: (514) 123-4567 Fax Téléc.: (514) 123-4568 abbr class=type title=voiceTélabbr abbr class=type title=faxTélécabbr Though there are concerns that that's an abuse of abbr. There is a

Re: [uf-discuss] Geo Elevation Data

2007-03-19 Thread Michael MD
Elevation: abbr class=elevation title=2012.02012./abbr I assume this is in the international metric standard of metres? (some Americans might try to mark it up in feet which would really confuse things...) ___ microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

2007-03-19 Thread Ryan King
On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: I've got a bit of a problem with an hCard that I need to mark up and I was wondering if anyone could lend me a hand. I realize the syntax requires that a type be specified for telephone numbers (voice, fax, etc...) and that's where my problem