Brian Suda wrote:
--- if you can give-us any other information, who exactly the company
is, etc and any other information from the legal team we can attempt
to work around these problems or debunk the FUD.
Our company is Digital Bazaar, Inc. we provide digital content delivery
services (buying
to make sure that the community was listening before we
went out and arranged to have that happen.
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
/video-metadata-models
/microshow
That's incredibly strange - both of these links appear under the
Related and See Also sections of those pages. Should red-link items
be placed under each of those sections? There isn't anything at the end
of the links to relate to or see?
Things can still change, but after talking a bit with the Firefox 3
folks - Microformats are starting to look more and more like they're
going to be supported in a big way in the next major release of the browser.
Paul Wilkins wrote:
From: Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
It could be a lot better if it said
Accesskeys differ according to your browser. which links off to a
page that explains about Accesskeys, followed by use ACCESSKEY S to
save
It would be better
Scott Reynen wrote:
The microformats admins have decided to ban Andy Mabbet from this
community (both email lists and wiki) for one week, due to continued
failure to adhere to the be nice guideline [1] after a private warning.
I don't condone Andy's tone when replying to the thread that
Alex Faaborg wrote:
Yes, while previous Firefox designs have focused on the browser
injecting UI into the page, this discussion is about how the content
creator should provide links and buttons for acting on microformatted
content.
I'm probably being a bit dense, but it looks like we're
Manu Sporny wrote:
Here are some other examples:
action://map/find/eiffel-tower
action://
Sorry, here are the other examples:
action://location/find/eiffel-tower
action://license/fulltext/Harry-Potter-and-the-Order-of-the-Phoenix
action://feed/subscribe/cool-hatom-feed
action://audio/play
Andy Mabbett wrote:
I think it's time we moved the specs to *-spec or *-specification, and
used the root page for each microformat, such as the above, for a
plain-language introduction, taking care to avoid jargon as much as
possible.
+1 for this idea. There have been several times where I've
.
This is the same way that Eclipse shows the developer warnings, comments
and errors via the code editor. It would do well as a transient UI AND
wouldn't be intrusive on the browsing experience when the UI is active.
Exciting stuff...
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Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
I really like the idea of allowing additional control over
presentation via pseudo-classes, but I am worried that :target isn't
quite right, at least if we follow the spec to the letter
(http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#target-pseudo), specifically
since this
Brian Suda wrote:
Also, there is the same discussion on going on the RDFa mailing list:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0113.html
As Ivan Herman replied on that list, GRDDL handles much of what you
are looking for as well and much of those Microformats -
Paul Wilkins wrote:
The hAudio time should be denoted in seconds. If 3:23 is given it's to
be seen as three minutes and twenty two seconds. If hours are needed
it should be 1:3:23 (0 prefix optional) to denote 1 hour three minutes
and twenty two seconds.
This way the hAudio standard can
Paul Wilkins wrote:
Another possible solution is to provide greater detail for the time itself.
abbr title=00:23:002:23/abbr
This I understand is an acceptable title for screen readers, it
expands suitably on 2:23 (which could be 2 hours 23 minutes or 2
minutes 23 seconds) and it's
Paul Wilkins wrote:
span class=duration title=PT2M23S2:23/span
With this it is not possible to prevent the title from being used by
screen readers and other people who hover their mouse over the time
value.
This is not true. You can set several, of not all, screen readers to not
read titles
solve those problems.
Andy Mabbett wrote:
On Sun, December 16, 2007 19:14, Manu Sporny wrote:
Paul Wilkins wrote:
Another possible solution is to provide greater detail for the time
itself.
abbr title=00:23:002:23/abbr
If you are suggesting that we use the hh:mm:ss time format
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#adef-title
title = text [CS]
This attribute offers advisory information about the element for
which it is set.
Happy Holidays, all :)
I've had a hard time explaining what the semantic web is about in a
concise manner over the past several months, so I decided to focus on
answering that for people that don't really know much about the web.
I spent the last couple of days playing around with the video
Finished an RDFa Basics video this weekend. It attempts to explain RDF,
CURIEs, N3 and basic RDFa in 8 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldl0m-5zLz4
Thought some of you would want to learn about some of the upcoming
features of XHTML2 as well as compare and contrast how RDFa differs from
Michael Smethurst wrote:
On 11/1/08 10:31, Alex Faaborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions
both in favor of and against including RDFa support in a future
through the uF process or create
an RDFa vocabulary.
I'll let this list know when I have gotten a reply from them.
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Alf Eaton wrote:
I was looking at using haudio today, but stumbled on the 'contributor'
field: is there a reason it's 'contributor' rather than 'creator', even
for the main creator (artist, in music) of the piece of audio?
We decided to not use creator because it would not be the proper
Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manu Sporny
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
If only one contributor is listed, it is assumed that he/she/it is also
the creator of the hAudio. If multiple contributors are listed, it is
assumed that the first contributor is the creator, and all
Andy Mabbett wrote:
It seems strange that the microformat does not distinguish between the
main contributor and others.
It does - you list the main contributor first, if you care about that
sort of thing. Otherwise, you can list them in any order.
Both the Beatles and Geoff Emerick
Alf Eaton wrote:
It would work, but so would a number of very complicated things. My
needs are essentially very simple:
artistPrimal Scream/artist - albumScreamadelica/album
so
span class=creatorPrimal Scream/span - span
class=albumScreamadelica/span
Why doesn't the following work for
Alf Eaton wrote:
How about this:
* All contributors played a role in the creation of the audio.
* If there's one or more creators, those entities played a primary role.
We looked at that approach, and found that we didn't have the examples
to back up the argument that we should make the
Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manu Sporny
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Why doesn't the following work for you, then?
div class=haudio
span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span -
span class=albumScreamadelica/span
/div
Per the hAudio spec, you have just marked up
Alf Eaton wrote:
The example above is valid hAudio markup - is your issue with the word
contributor instead of creator?
Basically, yes :-) And it's not a huge issue, I was just wondering if
there was justification for it being that way - which there is, it seems.
We're also tracking this
Robert O'Rourke wrote:
Ah yes, so would you say 'performer', 'creator' and 'composer' are roles
and not different to being a contributor?
Yes, that is why 'contributor' was picked, rather than 'performer',
'creator', or 'composer'. :)
It would be useful to have a
more blanket term for
Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manu Sporny
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
It would be useful to have a
more blanket term for instances where one person has multiple roles of
that kind.
You can always specify multiple 'role's in hCard to state that the
person had more than
Thom Shannon wrote:
perhaps there was prior discussion and agreement that was just a long
time ago? Have you searched the archives or asked Tantek directly?
Here's the IRC log regarding the change to the wiki:
http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2008-02-07#T010220
I agree with the change -
% of contributions
benjamin west - 107 posts - 0.91% of contributions
Here are the top-10 contributors to the microformats-new mailing list:
manu sporny - 298 posts - 19.13% of contributions
martin mcevoy - 238 posts - 15.28% of contributions
andy mabbett - 182 posts - 11.68
in
the statement above conveys.
The link to the Wikipedia ban is helpful, though. It is what I would
have expected to see prior to Andy's 18 month ban.
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on
those things and the next time something like this happens, we won't
have to re-hash this discussion.
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contributors.
2. It would be good to have an automatic process that could detect and
log wiki edit wars, thus reducing the load on the admins and the rest
of the community.
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http
Fuzzbot is designed to detect RDFa and other semantic data formats and
display them to the person browsing. RDFa is a way to embed
machine-readable data into web pages, which helps computers help you
interact with web pages in a smarter way. For example, Fuzzbot can show
you information about
Surprised the semantic story du jour hasn't been posted to this list
yet. Congrats to the XFN, and hCard folks :)
http://blog.digg.com/?p=120
PS: Steve Williams is a good guy - he really does care about this stuff.
Digg
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Practical Web Semantics Part 3 of 4: RDFa Concepts
http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/talks/practical-web-semantics/part3.html
Practical Web Semantics Part 4 of 4: Demos and Questions
http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/talks/practical-web-semantics/part4.html
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Hi uFers,
Based on work that was done in this community over a year ago, we've
attempted to do a port of hAudio over to the RDFa world. The result is a
set of 4 vocabularies for media, audio, video and commerce. We used a
number of Microformats principles when porting the vocabularies and
(bonuses: copious diversity and the liberal agenda)
http://www.vimeo.com/1488633
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There have been several threads discussing Microformats, RDFa and HTML5
that are occurring on the WHATWG mailing list. The discussion relates to
whether or not HTML5 should depend on the Microformats community to
solve HTML5's semantic markup issues, or if both Microformats and RDFa
should be
would be appreciated.
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André Luís wrote:
Manu,
the css based approach is somethin that has come up in discussions
about semantics with fellow workers. I believe it does not trash all
of the hard work the communities have don so far.
I never said the discussions trashed all of our hard work. I said that
some of the
Ben Ward wrote:
It will take a couple of weeks to give examples of how this will all
work, but I wanted to get feedback from this community before
proceeding. We have a fantastic opportunity in front of us now - who in
this community thinks that we should work with the W3C on this endeavor?
Tantek Celik wrote:
Completely agreed w all of Ben Ward's points.
Even the ones that seem to state that RDFa does not operate in the realm
of HTML? The reason I raise this point is that RDFa will be a W3C
standard, applicable to XHTML1.1 and XHTML2 by the end of October 2008
(roughly). We're in
Scott Reynen wrote:
That, or we'd compromise RDFa.
I can almost guarantee that neither side is going to compromise their
set of beliefs. The Microformats community is too hard headed to do so,
and the RDFa community has a very long, arduous W3C process to consider
when changing anything major
Samuel Santos has started blogging about the HTML5 + RDFa/Microformats
discussion that we've been having in WHATWG:
http://www.samaxes.com/2008/08/29/the-semantic-web-and-rdfa/
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Interesting blog post by Shane McCarron of XHTML2 fame. He has been
involved in the standards community since 1985. His name is on just
about every major HTML standard to come out of the W3C - if you use HTML
4.01, XHTML1.0, XHTML 1.1, or will use XHTML2 (to name a few), you're
using specs that he
Martin McEvoy wrote:
http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-we-do-what-we-do.html
Thanks Manu for an interesting post, I have made some comments ;-)
I am a bit worried about Shane's other post
Shane wrote:
Unlike microformats, the idiom for annotating your content does not
conflict
Tantek Celik wrote:
eventually decided that it was time that someone started to experiment
with the broad semantic HTML *today* work being done by modern web
designers, solving today's real world web problems, with shared
vocabularies based on existing standards. I met up with Kevin Marks
who
Thomas Loertsch wrote:
I'm not sure that an RDFa serialization is something that needs
endorsement or hosting by microformats.org. Once hRecipe is
formalised, RDF/RDFa-based work that uses the hRecipe vocabulary needs
no input from microformats.org. The syntax for the RDFa is derived
simply
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to join and let them decide if
this community is the best avenue forward. We shouldn't assume what the
interests of this community are - this mailing list has over 1,000
readers and all you really need is 2-3 highly motivated individuals to
push some of these initiatives forward.
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. The discussion may come to
nothing, but let's give it a chance before shutting it down prematurely.
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[1] http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/SNPedia
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Congrats to everyone in the community and everyone that has helped
create a Microformat!
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and albums with
hAudio markup - why is that not enough?
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