Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Craig Skinner
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 07:02:59PM -0500, bofh wrote: On 5/22/06, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm worried about data driven HTTP attacks getting past the reverse Squid proxy on the bastion host and into the LAN server, especially via HTTPS when contents are not examined so

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Craig Skinner
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 12:44:57AM -0400, Jeremy Huiskamp wrote: *) JSP/Tomcat + chroot + strongly typed + compiled - mostly - complex Possibly my lack of knowledge here, but how are you figuring on having tomcat in chroot? It won't be in apache's. Nope:

Re: openbdp problem with set localpref on match

2006-05-23 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:50:08PM -0400, G Douglas Davidson wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with openbgp on openbsd 3.7. I am attempting to set the localpref for a network and somehow it does not appear to be happening. I've tried: network 192.168.1.0/24 set localpref 200

Re: ServeRAID 4M

2006-05-23 Thread Anton Maksimenkov
OpenBSD has an isp(4) driver, as 'man isp' will tell you. Nothing obviously ServeRAIDish in there, though. FreeBSD's ServeRAID driver is ips, not isp. isp is for QLogic controllers. Yes, my wrong, sorry. Of course, mean ips. So, who can say, what with it currently? May it be ported (as far

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-23 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nick Guenther wrote: On 5/23/06, prad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 17:54, you wrot You can consider short-circuiting of Boolean evaluation greedy, but it a feature which may also save clock cycles if the right-most sub-expressions are costly to evaluate.

hardware: updates to OpenBSD server compatibility list

2006-05-23 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
Just wanted to let you know that OpenBSD server compatibility list has recently been updated with our 3.9-stable (and some -current) test results on a couple of standard servers. Boxes updated with 3.9 test results include: - IBM xServer 336 (new entry) - IBM eServer 326m - Sun x2100 - Dell

Re: OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-23 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:52:53PM -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: let's say that someone doesn't like me and/or a site that i run and they decide to DDoS me. i have a couple of questions since i'm not too familiar with the mechanics of a DDoS. what are some methods of launching a DDoS

traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread S t i n g r a y
I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? i dont want users who are downloading huge files effect userrs who are only checking their

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 18:56, S t i n g r a y wrote: I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? With pf? No. --- Lars Hansson

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Per-Olov Sjöholm
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 12.56, S t i n g r a y wrote: I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? i dont want users who are downloading

Soundcard AD1981B @ auich0 debugging

2006-05-23 Thread Tim Kornau
Hello misc@ I have a Problem with my specific ad1981b Intel 82801DB AC97 Soundcard in my Sony Vaio Tr2/B. Sometimes xmms does start to play but there is no sound sometimes it does not even start. I did build a GENERIC Kernel with AUDIO_DEBUG enabled and tried poking around with the settings of

roundrobin VS failover with trunk(4)

2006-05-23 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Hi. I'm having a hard time understanding _precisely_ the 2 modes for trunk(4). Can anyone confirm this (using 2 physical interfaces to create a trunk and a crappy 100Mbs non-manageable switch): - failover - send on master interface (100Mbs) - receive on both interfaces (200Mbs) - if one

Re: Soundcard AD1981B @ auich0 debugging

2006-05-23 Thread mickey
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:44:52PM +0200, Tim Kornau wrote: Hello misc@ I have a Problem with my specific ad1981b Intel 82801DB AC97 Soundcard in my Sony Vaio Tr2/B. Sometimes xmms does start to play but there is no sound sometimes it does not even start. I did build a GENERIC Kernel with

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Peter Blair
I haven't personally tested this, but give it a look: http://www.whoopis.com/howtos/web-bandwidth-limit.html Unfortunately it doesn't have the same kind of benefits that altq/pf provide, but as stated in the previous messages, you'd have to place your webmail and iso services on different IPs.

Re: roundrobin VS failover with trunk(4)

2006-05-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/23 13:47, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding _precisely_ the 2 modes for trunk(4). ah, there are 3 now. see reyk@'s recent commit.

Re: RAIDframe, swapping components in a RAID 1 array

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Wright
On 22/05/06, Greg Oster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing a: raidctl -i 605190 raid0 here before rebooting. I seem to recall a bug related to component labels on used spares not being updated properly after a reconstruct, and I think re-running the '-i' option was the workaround... Thanks

Re: OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-23 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
your applications and devices, etc. But there's no solution for drinking out of a firehose at full blast. Sometimes you just have to be A Man a drink! LOL feel free to reply off list if you like ;). i am asking this here since, IMO, openbsd has highest average 1337n355 among its user base.

[sk(4) issue] Why is throughput so jumping depending on the size of message?

2006-05-23 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, this research homework was mainly motivated by the idea to find out if the sk(4) GbitE NICs are really that great as some members on this list thinks. The second motivation was to find out why all the big vendors are using Broadcom NIC and or Intel in the worst case and not those great

HP HC340T pci-x card

2006-05-23 Thread holger glaess
hi i try to install this quad pci-x ethernet card that looks like an intel from hp. in my starting dmesg i got ppb3 at pci3 dev1 function 0 unknown vendor 0x12d8 product 0x01a7 rev 0x01 pci 4 at ppb3 bus 4 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x10b5 (class network subclass ethernet, rev 0x03) at

Re: OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-23 Thread Jeff Quast
openbsd has highest average 1337n355 among its user base. Uh yea, it's 2006we don't talk like that anymore. reference an age that is well-past for me, when ppl i knew in high school caused problems all over the place during the mid to late 90s because they were malicious kids.

Re: HP HC340T pci-x card

2006-05-23 Thread Dries Schellekens
holger glaess wrote: i try to install this quad pci-x ethernet card that looks like an intel from hp. in my starting dmesg i got ppb3 at pci3 dev1 function 0 unknown vendor 0x12d8 product 0x01a7 rev 0x01 pci 4 at ppb3 bus 4 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x10b5 (class network subclass

Re: vlan router problems

2006-05-23 Thread Raja Subramanian
Hi, Final update to my problem: I dropped the Netgear switch and used a Linksys^H^H Cisco switch. The Linksys worked right out of the box. Netgear's tech support lead me nowhere... I opened a support ticket and someone acknowledged that it was too complex for Level 1 support and escalated

Soundcard AD1981B @ auich0 debugging

2006-05-23 Thread Alexey E. Suslikov
I have a Problem with my specific ad1981b Intel 82801DB AC97 Soundcard in my Sony Vaio Tr2/B. Sometimes xmms does start to play but there is no sound sometimes it does not even start. here is dmesg from similar box with similar problem: no sound at all. note auich0: measured ac97 link rate at

Re: [sk(4) issue] Why is throughput so jumping depending on the size of message?

2006-05-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Karel Gardas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-23 15:55]: So again some jumping around 1400 bytes. The final question is: is this jumping behaviour caused by buggy drivers in both OpenBSD and Linux or is this some kind of hardware behaviour which software is not able to workaround? it is not

Re: roundrobin VS failover with trunk(4)

2006-05-23 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Selon Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ah, there are 3 now. see reyk@'s recent commit. Yes I know ;) I was speaking about the ones in 3.9. -- Antoine

Re: HP HC340T pci-x card

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 04:03:27PM +0200, holger glaess wrote: hi i try to install this quad pci-x ethernet card that looks like an intel from hp. in my starting dmesg i got ppb3 at pci3 dev1 function 0 unknown vendor 0x12d8 product 0x01a7 rev 0x01 pci 4 at ppb3 bus 4 vendor Intel,

Re: ifficiency [sic]

2006-05-23 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 08:36:39PM -0400, Ryan Flannery wrote: On 5/22/06, prad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is not openbsd specific, but i wanted to ask people who really understand the inner workings of programming languages. suppose that you have 2 conditions A and B where B take a lot

Re: OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-23 Thread Eric Pancer
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 10:02:24 -0400, Jeff Quast proclaimed... Thankfully those kids have grown up and have jobs now, and the point-and-click attack tools aren't as dangerous as they used to be. Surely you must be joking, right? Not only is it easy, with little experience you can write your

NetMOS PCI Serial Card

2006-05-23 Thread Ben Sinclair
Hi! I have a 2 port PCI serial card I'm trying to use under OpenBSD 3.9, but it doesn't seem to find it. According to dmesg, the only detected serial port is pccom0, which is the on-board serial port: pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo The card has a NetMOS NM9835CV

USB -- Ethernet NIC

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Lechtermann
Hello, since I still got trouble (first slow than stops working) with 2 D-Link DUB E-100 devices using axe I wonder if anyone of you is using any other USB-Ethernet NICs that work and are getting full 100MBit speed with USB2.0? If you are using such a device, please also metion which version of

Re: USB -- Ethernet NIC

2006-05-23 Thread Andy Hayward
On 5/23/06, Michael Lechtermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since I still got trouble (first slow than stops working) with 2 D-Link DUB E-100 devices using axe I wonder if anyone of you is using any other USB-Ethernet NICs that work and are getting full 100MBit speed with USB2.0? Netgear FA120,

Re: [sk(4) issue] Why is throughput so jumping depending on the size of message?

2006-05-23 Thread Karel Gardas
Henning Brauer wrote: * Karel Gardas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-23 15:55]: So again some jumping around 1400 bytes. The final question is: is this jumping behaviour caused by buggy drivers in both OpenBSD and Linux or is this some kind of hardware behaviour which software is not able to

Re: USB -- Ethernet NIC

2006-05-23 Thread Fred Crowson
Michael Lechtermann wrote: Hello, since I still got trouble (first slow than stops working) with 2 D-Link DUB E-100 devices using axe I wonder if anyone of you is using any other USB-Ethernet NICs that work and are getting full 100MBit speed with USB2.0? If you are using such a device, please

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:56:31AM -0700, S t i n g r a y wrote: I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? i dont want users who are

Re: NetMOS PCI Serial Card

2006-05-23 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Original message Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:45:29 -0500 From: Ben Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NetMOS PCI Serial Card To: misc@openbsd.org Hi! I have a 2 port PCI serial card I'm trying to use under OpenBSD 3.9, but it doesn't seem to find it. According to dmesg, the only

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Peter Blair
Another alternative is to use http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_proxy.html#proxypass to proxy your iso directory to another httpd instance running on a private IP, eg: setup your webserver with the regular public IP address(es), and additionally setup a number of private IP addresses.

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Mon, 22 May 2006, Craig Skinner wrote: *) Ruby + Apache chroot + Ruby on Rails - loosely typed - interpreted A few other reasons we're looking at Ruby: Rails has testing capabilities built-in RAKE (Ruby Make) allows simple migration from dev/test/production my personal favorite:

Re: basic questions regarding patching, errata and stable branch

2006-05-23 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi, On Monday, 22. May 2006 19:55, Ted Unangst wrote: I have read that mixing up checked out subsystems from CVS like src, ports and XF4 cannot be done across different branches without breaking the system at some time. Let's assume I don't want to spend the extra compile time and

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:45 -0500 (CDT) L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my personal favorite: Rails is MVC, so the URL presented to the user HAS NOT page identifier (i.e. only the controller name)! Uh, there's MVC frameworks in pretty much every language. Ruby is incredibly slow,

dmesg from 3.9 under Parallels Virtual host

2006-05-23 Thread Chad M Stewart
Two dmesg's below, both bsd and bsd.mp, these are from my 15 MacBook Pro.The fun part will be building a 3 or 4 carp/pf group of nodes. :) The softw I also plan on trying to setup an instance of OpenBSD to be the firewall for the host OS. I read about something similar using

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Christopher Snell
On 5/23/06, S t i n g r a y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? Sure, set your HTTP daemon to listen on

Re: Netgear FA311was sis, is now rl

2006-05-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:20:39AM +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: I had to replace a Netgear FA311 with a newer version of the same card. Unfortunately this card is now a rl(4), not a sis(4) anymore. dmesg for the old version: sis0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00:

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Craig Skinner
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:32:59PM -0400, Adam wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:45 -0500 (CDT) L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my personal favorite: Rails is MVC, so the URL presented to the user HAS NOT page identifier (i.e. only the controller name)! Uh, there's MVC

spamd - greylisting valid local users?

2006-05-23 Thread Jakub Głazik
How do you handle greylisting of valid users? I have just tested spamd. Valid users trying to sent mail through my SMTP server are greylisted and need to try again after 'passtime'. And when their IP changes (DSL lines) they need to do it again, which could be irritating of course. How do

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:29:56 +0100 Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at Ruby about a year ago and dismissed it then because of speed. I thought that the overhead of instantiating an object in an interpreted language was the problem. Being interpreted is certainly part of the

Re: spamd - greylisting valid local users?

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:39:01 +0200 Jakub G__azik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you handle greylisting of valid users? $ grep msa /etc/services submission 587/tcp msa # mail message submission

Re: Soundcard AD1981B @ auich0 debugging

2006-05-23 Thread Tim Kornau
On Tue, 23 May 2006 at 17:39 +0300, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: I have a Problem with my specific ad1981b Intel 82801DB AC97 Soundcard in my Sony Vaio Tr2/B. Sometimes xmms does start to play but there is no sound sometimes it does not even start. here is dmesg from similar box with similar

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Weiss
*) Ruby + Apache chroot + Ruby on Rails - loosely typed - interpreted Ruby is strongly but dynamically typed. So a = hi a = 1 is ok but a = 1 b = a + 1 is not. I consided this an advantage. Jonathan

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Weiss
Adam wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:45 -0500 (CDT) L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my personal favorite: Rails is MVC, so the URL presented to the user HAS NOT page identifier (i.e. only the controller name)! Uh, there's MVC frameworks in pretty much every language. Ruby is

Re: [sk(4) issue] Why is throughput so jumping depending on the size of message?

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Testing packet sizes beyond the MTU is pointless unless you use that in a real-world scenario. You are testing a lot more than the ethernet chip and driver, in any event. What are you testing for? It's not very clear from your original message. Karel Gardas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henning

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Tue, 23 May 2006 22:04:10 +0200 Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:45 -0500 (CDT) L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my personal favorite: Rails is MVC, so the URL presented to the user HAS NOT page identifier (i.e. only the

Re: pf tables and redirects

2006-05-23 Thread Eci Souji
Using pfctl -vss I see a few states that are in FIN_WAIT_2. If I wait for these states to vanish I am directed to the correct ip address. If I flush the states using pfctl -F state I see nothing under pfctl -vss, but my machine is still directed to the old ip adderss that is no longer in the

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Planck
S t i n g r a y napisaE(a): I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? i dont want users who are downloading huge files effect userrs

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Adam wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:29:56 +0100 Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being interpreted is certainly part of the problem. Quickly compiled languages like python, perl and pike are significantly faster, while still being very dynamic and flexible. RoR

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Gaby vanhegan
On 23 May 2006, at 22:10, L. V. Lammert wrote: Being interpreted is certainly part of the problem. Quickly compiled languages like python, perl and pike are significantly faster, while still being very dynamic and flexible. RoR uses fastcgi, .. which is just as fast as Perl or Python. It

pf and nat question for $ext_if with 2 ip addresses

2006-05-23 Thread Tor Houghton
Hi, I have two IP addresses assigned to the external interface. I also have two internal interfaces. Is it possible to NAT each internal interface to a specific external IP address (without specifying the external address, but the interface description)? I am using 3.8; and in my mind I thought

Re: Netgear FA311was sis, is now rl

2006-05-23 Thread Martin Schröder
2006/5/23, Jason McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nasty trick eh? i just added v2 to the rl(4) page... Indeed. And a very stupid company. This v2 is a different card; they should have renamed it. sis(4) and i386.html also need an update. Best Martin

Re: pf and nat question for $ext_if with 2 ip addresses

2006-05-23 Thread Melameth, Daniel D.
Tor Houghton wrote: I have two IP addresses assigned to the external interface. I also have two internal interfaces. Is it possible to NAT each internal interface to a specific external IP address (without specifying the external address, but the interface description)? I am using 3.8; and

Re: Netgear FA311was sis, is now rl

2006-05-23 Thread Martin Schröder
2006/5/23, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sis(4) and i386.html also need an update. I see that you already updated html. Thanks. Best Martin

Re: Netgear FA311was sis, is now rl

2006-05-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:31:13PM +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: sis(4) and i386.html also need an update. the web pages have been updated, but there's not much to do for sis(4). we can hardly call the original card a v1. it just makes the pages unworkable. jmc

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Tue, 23 May 2006 16:10:01 -0500 (CDT) L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006, Adam wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:29:56 +0100 Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being interpreted is certainly part of the problem. Quickly compiled languages like python, perl

Re: roundrobin VS failover with trunk(4)

2006-05-23 Thread Reyk Floeter
Hi, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding _precisely_ the 2 modes for trunk(4). Can anyone confirm this (using 2 physical interfaces to create a trunk and a crappy 100Mbs non-manageable switch): you should use failover mode with the non-manageable switch. - failover

Re: Netgear FA311was sis, is now rl

2006-05-23 Thread Martin Schröder
2006/5/23, Jason McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the web pages have been updated, but there's not much to do for sis(4). we can hardly call the original card a v1. it just makes the pages unworkable. Maybe a note like (versions till 2005)? Best Martin

Re: Soundcard AD1981B @ auich0 debugging

2006-05-23 Thread Tim Kornau
On Tue, 23 May 2006 at 13:56 +0200, mickey wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:44:52PM +0200, Tim Kornau wrote: Hello misc@ I have a Problem with my specific ad1981b Intel 82801DB AC97 Soundcard in my Sony Vaio Tr2/B. Sometimes xmms does start to play but there is no sound sometimes it

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Weiss
Cheers, Yes, it is incredibly slow. Here's some benchmarks showing python is significantly faster in everything but startup time. Even the author of ruby says ruby is slow, and its planned to make it a bytecode compiled language like everyone else in ruby 2.

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Jim Capozzoli
Per-Olov Sjvholm wrote: On Tuesday 23 May 2006 12.56, S t i n g r a y wrote: I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? i dont want users

eSource for Tuesday, May 23, 2006

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Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Wed, 24 May 2006 00:09:05 +0200 Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers, Yes, it is incredibly slow. Here's some benchmarks showing python is significantly faster in everything but startup time. Even the author of ruby says ruby is slow, and its planned to make it a

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Planck wrote: S t i n g r a y napisaE(a): I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any way i can diffrenciate between HTTP webpages HTTP downloads of huge .iso files ? i dont want users who are downloading huge files

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Weiss
Cheers, Like I said, I did. Rails is over 3 times slower than django for some stuff, and ruby in general is far slower for EVERY single script I have ever compared with. So Ruby is slower than Python for your application. The author does not say that Ruby is slow Yes he does. Unlike

Help troubleshooting a wi(4) problem

2006-05-23 Thread Jason Murray
Hello. I've been having a problem for the last year or so. This problem has occurred in 3.6 - 3.9. Let me try to explain it. I have a server with a wireless (802.11b) card in it and I have a laptop that is using that server as its gateway. Whenever the traffic over the wireless network

Re: Help troubleshooting a wi(4) problem

2006-05-23 Thread Melameth, Daniel D.
Jason Murray wrote: Hello. I've been having a problem for the last year or so. This problem has occurred in 3.6 - 3.9. Let me try to explain it. I have a server with a wireless (802.11b) card in it and I have a laptop that is using that server as its gateway. Whenever the traffic over

Re: Help troubleshooting a wi(4) problem

2006-05-23 Thread Melameth, Daniel D.
Melameth, Daniel D. wrote: Jason Murray wrote: Hello. I've been having a problem for the last year or so. This problem has occurred in 3.6 - 3.9. Let me try to explain it. I have a server with a wireless (802.11b) card in it and I have a laptop that is using that server as its

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Wed, 24 May 2006 02:08:45 +0200 Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Ruby is slower than Python for your application. No, it is slower than Python for everything. Every single basic function of the language is slower, conditionals, loops, instantiating objects, calling methods,

open BSD + enterprise 250 don't work

2006-05-23 Thread Jose Hugo Barradas Culebro
Hi, from mexico city. I've been trying to install the opneBSD 3.9 that I bought to you on a Sun Enterprise 250. but it gets frozen the installation almost to the begining. Even that in your web says that it's compatible. Then I tried with 3.4, 3.8 and neither I couldn't , the same thing. can

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Weiss
Cheers, Adam wrote: On Wed, 24 May 2006 02:08:45 +0200 Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Ruby is slower than Python for your application. No, it is slower than Python for everything. Every single basic function of the language is slower, conditionals, loops, instantiating objects,

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Wakefield
Adam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spewed: Again, speaking from my experience Ruby on Rails is more productive than Catalist or Django, but that depends on your application and skills. If you already know ruby, sure you will be faster in rails. If you know more than one of the languages in question,

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
-Nick didn't some al-zarqawi behead you in iraq? they really had me going for a minute with that video ;)

Re: spamd - greylisting valid local users?

2006-05-23 Thread Jakub Głazik
Adam napisa3(a): On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:39:01 +0200 Jakub G__azik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you handle greylisting of valid users? $ grep msa /etc/services submission 587/tcp msa # mail

Re: Help troubleshooting a wi(4) problem

2006-05-23 Thread Jason Murray
$ cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep wi0 wi0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 Intersil PRISM2.5 rev 0x01: irq 11 wi0: PRISM2.5 ISL3874A(Mini-PCI) (0x8013), Firmware 1.0.7 (primary), 1.3.6 (station), address 00:09:5b:11:cc:4e I'm going to try a firmware upgrade ASAP. I found some references to using a

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Adam
On Tue, 23 May 2006 18:18:06 -0700 Wakefield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spewed: Again, speaking from my experience Ruby on Rails is more productive than Catalist or Django, but that depends on your application and skills. If you already know ruby, sure you will

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Jonathan Weiss
Cheers, Adam wrote: On Wed, 24 May 2006 02:51:55 +0200 Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just do not want to understand and flame Rails. Right, I don't understand. Yes, you do not understand me. Its easier to pretend I am just confused than to face reality and admit that your

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Wakefield
On 5/23/06, Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't some al-zarqawi behead you in iraq? That'll teach you never to dismiss the recent advances in surgery. I should have listened to my parents. They said if you want to get ahead in life, become a doctor. they really had me going

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Wakefield
Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 18:18:06 -0700 Wakefield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spewed: Again, speaking from my experience Ruby on Rails is more productive than Catalist or Django, but that depends on your application and skills. If you

Re: Linux UFS write support ??

2006-05-23 Thread Nathan Johnson
By the way, in my experiences with Sun, you need hardware flow control enabled. Also, you need to ensure that the cables you are using have all of the pins connected, and you are correct in assuming that you need a null style cable. Occasionally you'll find a crappy serial cable where the

Re: Linux UFS write support ??

2006-05-23 Thread Nathan Johnson
sorry, wrong thread ('doh!) Nathan

Re: Connecting to Sun Ultra 5 over serial line

2006-05-23 Thread Nathan Johnson
By the way, in my experiences with Sun, you need hardware flow control enabled. Also, you need to ensure that the cables you are using have all of the pins connected, and you are correct in assuming that you need a null style cable. Occasionally you'll find a crappy serial cable where the

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Nick Guenther
I think it's a good time to quote this from the original post: On 5/22/06, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I'm going to attempt to word this carefully as I'm looking for a non-flame debate on the merits of PHP, Mason, Ruby, and JSP/Tomcat. I have googled about extensively and

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Christopher Snell
Can we please end this crappy, off-topic thread right now? Thank you. Chris

Re: traffic shaping question.

2006-05-23 Thread S t i n g r a y
Planck, can you shed some more light here ? or maybe provide me a link with examples ? regards Faisal --- Planck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S t i n g r a y napisaE(a): I want to do traffic shaping as per protocol basis so if i give a certian bandwith to HTTP protocole , isnt there any

Re: Help troubleshooting a wi(4) problem

2006-05-23 Thread Melameth, Daniel D.
Jason Murray wrote: $ cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep wi0 wi0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 Intersil PRISM2.5 rev 0x01: irq 11 wi0: PRISM2.5 ISL3874A(Mini-PCI) (0x8013), Firmware 1.0.7 (primary), 1.3.6 (station), address 00:09:5b:11:cc:4e I'm going to try a firmware upgrade ASAP. I found some

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Nathan Johnson
Okay, in an attempt to avoid this little holy war, I'll throw in my two cents... but only in regards to php and perl, which I have experience in. php is quick (at least mod_php), php is easy, pear is almost cool. perl is quick (particularly mod_perl), CPAN (of which Mason is a part of) is

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-23 Thread Damien Miller
This has nothing to do with OpenBSD. Please take your childish language flamewars to private email. On Wed, 24 May 2006, Jonathan Weiss wrote: Cheers, Adam wrote: On Wed, 24 May 2006 02:08:45 +0200 Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Ruby is slower than Python for your

Re: spamd - greylisting valid local users?

2006-05-23 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 5/24/06, Jakub G3azik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good, but telling all those users to change their MUA config.. For roaming users, they are likely to be confronted with outbound port 25 blocks on more and more networks. Given those conditions, they're likely to have to change their

Re: open BSD + enterprise 250 don't work

2006-05-23 Thread Adam D. Morley
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 07:46:52PM -0500, Jose Hugo Barradas Culebro wrote: [snip] this is an image of where the installation gets frozen. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j225/ddtrebel/DSC05922.jpg Does the system hang at pcons at mainbus0 not configured for a bit and then display

Re: open BSD + enterprise 250 don't work

2006-05-23 Thread Miod Vallat
this is an image of where the installation gets frozen. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j225/ddtrebel/DSC05922.jpg There are a few video boards which are not supported correctly on sparc64; yours is one of them. You can either configure your machine for serial console, or boot with the

Re: Help troubleshooting a wi(4) problem

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Cappuccio
If you search the links from netgate.com you can find prism firmwares up to 1.8.0 or 1.8.4 which give you various interesting features and bugfixes Melameth, Daniel D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Murray wrote: $ cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep wi0 wi0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 Intersil