Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread SJP Lists
On Friday, 5 January 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > The Intel flop hits the US .mil as well, because they depend on COTS > Xeons. > > I pity the Russians. I wonder if they pay through the nose for Oracle's > power hungry hardware, or make it cheaper and power efficient of

Re: gcc-4.9.4 package build signal 11 [Segmentation fault] on Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway

2018-01-04 Thread Diana Eichert
All I hear is crickets, so I guess the SDNA Shasta is not available to mortals. I just rebuilt the OpenBSD build on my Ubiquiti USG with 5 GB swap. Reminds me of running FreeBSD on 486 systems back in the 90's. ;-) I have it building telephony/asterisk package, which has a LOT of dependencies.

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Rodrigo Mosconi
2018-01-04 12:17 GMT-02:00 Andreas Thulin : > Hi all! > > Thought I'd create an OpenBSD wiki somewhere, where anyone (especially > non-developers like myself) could create and edit tutorials for stuff > non-developers like myself would find useful. I find that sometimes >

Re: Video-conferencing tool a la Skype or Facetime for OpenBSD?

2018-01-04 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:52:39 +0100 Marko Cupać wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:18:12 +0900 > Bryan Linton wrote: > > > Hello misc@ > > > > I have a friend who runs Windows who has asked me if there is any > > way we can occasionally communicate with

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread torsten
Ps security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 security.bsd.see_other_gids=0 security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf=0 security.bsd.unprivileged_proc_debug=0 kern.randompid=$(jot -r 1 ) security.bsd.stack_guard_page=1 > -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread torsten
I wonder how it is in reality for most *BSD users due to 1. hide processes run by other users 2. disable reading kernel messaging buffers... 3. disable kernel messaging debugging by unprivileged users And some other tweeks What surprises me is the "panic" publication of this because of already

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Rupert Gallagher
https://mobile.twitter.com/misc0110/status/948706387491786752 On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 16:49, Daniel Wilkins wrote: > Intel's said that it affects every processor in the last 20+ years and that > it's "not a big deal for most users" because it's only a kernel memory >

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Rupert Gallagher
The Intel flop hits the US .mil as well, because they depend on COTS Xeons. I pity the Russians. I wonder if they pay through the nose for Oracle's power hungry hardware, or make it cheaper and power efficient of their own. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 18:28, Jordan Geoghegan

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Ve Telko
Hi Andreas, I installed OpenBSD on Oct. 16. 2017 after 18 years in Linux motivated by  reading an article from Derek Sivers on OpenBSD 6.1/6.2 I started with reading FAQ and mailing lists (mostly tech and misc) history. I also searched for some other articles on OpenBSD but I very soon 

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Allan Streib
andrew fabbro writes: > read the man pages, read the FAQ, read the source code I have to say that I've found that in most cases the man pages and FAQ will get you a long way. If you're a new arrival from the linux world, used to googling for how-to blog posts, this will not

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/4/2018 10:51 AM, Daniel Boyd wrote: > > AMD has said that it doesn't affect their processors. Whether or not > that's true, I'm not sure. > > One curiosity I had was whether the KARL mitigation in 6.2 would help > with this. I suppose it depends on the nature of the flaw (which is > still

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 01/04/18 15:17, Andreas Thulin wrote: > Thought I'd create an OpenBSD wiki somewhere, where anyone (especially > non-developers like myself) could create and edit tutorials for stuff > non-developers like myself would find useful. I find that sometimes > existing tutorials become outdated, and

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread andrew fabbro
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chris Bennett < webmas...@bennettconstruction.us> wrote: > But before you get your hopes up, go check out the various worldwide > community groups websites with similar attempts. > > Mexico, Russia, etc. > You will find the same thing. Instructions for something to

no video on resume

2018-01-04 Thread Ed Brunelle
Hi, I just managed to setup OpenBSD on my system (MSI mini itx with A8-7600 AMD APU, Kaveri) I setup the apm with flag "-A" on /etc/rc.local.conf and apmd runs after boot. , the problem is that there is no video - same result under X or virtual terminal even when no X was loaded- after the

Re: Video-conferencing tool a la Skype or Facetime for OpenBSD?

2018-01-04 Thread Mihai Popescu
On OpenBSD side, install from packages: pjsua (but no video, no GUI) baresip (no GUI) On Windows: microsip Both of you need one account each on iptel.org.

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Nick Holland
On 01/04/18 10:38, Marko Cupać wrote: > Feel free to contribute to [!WARNING - BLATANT SELF PROMOTION BELOW!] > > [https://www.mimar.rs/blog/tag:openbsd] > > As a side note, setting up apache and grav [https://getgrav.org/] took > me an hour or so. Writing simple article takes whole day,

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Daniel Boyd
On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:21 -0500, Allan Streib wrote: > "Alceu R. de Freitas Jr." writes: > > > I guess Intel does not give a shit about non-profit groups. Linux > > got > > this attention because there are a lot of players making money from > > it, players that surely

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Thuban
> Before I go and create anything - are there already a place similar to what > I'm describing, where I could get myself involved? (I'm too junior to start > suggesting changes and updates to the docs on OpenBSD.org, and I'm not sure > they should be used for what I want to achieve.) yes, see

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Daniel Ouellet
On 1/4/18 11:46 AM, Marcus MERIGHI wrote: > andreasthu...@gmail.com (Andreas Thulin), 2018.01.04 (Thu) 15:17 (CET): >> Thought I'd create an OpenBSD wiki somewhere, where anyone (especially > >> existing tutorials become outdated, and was thinking that a wiki would >> make updates easier. > >

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
The Russians heavily use SPARC for aerospace/military applications as well as their in house domestic-use-only Elbrus machines, for what I imagine to be reasons precisely like this. On 01/04/18 00:13, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Everybody is reading about it, including people like me that have

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 02:17:51PM +, Andreas Thulin wrote: > Hi all! > > Thought I'd create an OpenBSD wiki somewhere, where anyone (especially > non-developers like myself) could create and edit tutorials for stuff > non-developers like myself would find useful. I find that sometimes >

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Daniel Boyd
On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:49 -0500, Daniel Wilkins wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:21:12AM -0500, Allan Streib wrote: > > "Alceu R. de Freitas Jr." writes: > > > > > I guess Intel does not give a shit about non-profit groups. Linux > > > got > > > this attention

Re: Video-conferencing tool a la Skype or Facetime for OpenBSD?

2018-01-04 Thread Marko Cupać
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:18:12 +0900 Bryan Linton wrote: > Hello misc@ > > I have a friend who runs Windows who has asked me if there is any > way we can occasionally communicate with each other via some kind > of video-conferencing application similar to what programs like >

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
andreasthu...@gmail.com (Andreas Thulin), 2018.01.04 (Thu) 15:17 (CET): > Thought I'd create an OpenBSD wiki somewhere, where anyone (especially > existing tutorials become outdated, and was thinking that a wiki would > make updates easier. You don't know you are standing on an ancient battle

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Marko Cupać
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:13:58 -0700 Base Pr1me wrote: > The Pledge of the Network Admin, from one of those book authors: > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2011/01/i-will-not-mindlessly-paste-from-howtos.html > :D I found this pledge quite early, and it instantly became my pledge

Video-conferencing tool a la Skype or Facetime for OpenBSD?

2018-01-04 Thread Bryan Linton
Hello misc@ I have a friend who runs Windows who has asked me if there is any way we can occasionally communicate with each other via some kind of video-conferencing application similar to what programs like Skype and Facetime provide. Does such a thing already exist for OpenBSD? My

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Base Pr1me
The Pledge of the Network Admin, from one of those book authors: http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2011/01/i-will-not-mindlessly-paste-from-howtos.html :D On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 10:41:19 -0500 > Bryan Harris

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Wilkins wrote: > From what I understand, AMD has come out and explicitly said that their > architecture isn't and has never been vulnerable, while Intel's said that > it affects every processor in the last 20+ years and that it's "not

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Oliver Marugg
Hi In general an community driven openbsd wiki would be a good idea, for users like me (not developers). I would participate as far I am able to. But do not forget the OpenBSD FAQ and man pages are really well documented (thanks devs). -oliver On 4 Jan 2018, at 15:17, Andreas Thulin wrote:

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Marko Cupać
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 10:41:19 -0500 Bryan Harris wrote: > My preference is to purchase a book. I have had a good experience with > Absolute OpenBSD, Httpd & Relayd, the tarsnap book, and the Book of > PF. > > I would buy a book about OpenSMTPD and also ikev2 but I didn't

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Daniel Wilkins
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:21:12AM -0500, Allan Streib wrote: > "Alceu R. de Freitas Jr." writes: > > > I guess Intel does not give a shit about non-profit groups. Linux got > > this attention because there are a lot of players making money from > > it, players that

Re: fsck block number integer overflow

2018-01-04 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 02:53:31PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 09:11:04AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 09:44:55PM -0600, Colton Lewis wrote: > > > > > When I try to run fsck on partition m of this disk: > > > > > > # /dev/rsd1c: > > >

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Tom Smyth
Hello Daniel, I don't know as Im not a core developer... the Vuln was embargoed so my guess is a lot of people were in the dark. Thanks Tom Smyth On 4 January 2018 at 13:31, Daniel Boyd wrote: > On Jan 4, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Tom Smyth

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Bryan Harris
My preference is to purchase a book. I have had a good experience with Absolute OpenBSD, Httpd & Relayd, the tarsnap book, and the Book of PF. I would buy a book about OpenSMTPD and also ikev2 but I didn't see any. Just my $0.02, I like books better than online tutorials. V/r, Bryan On Thu,

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Marko Cupać
Feel free to contribute to [!WARNING - BLATANT SELF PROMOTION BELOW!] [https://www.mimar.rs/blog/tag:openbsd] As a side note, setting up apache and grav [https://getgrav.org/] took me an hour or so. Writing simple article takes whole day, sometimes much more. -- Before enlightenment - chop

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread edgar
On Jan 4, 2018 9:27 AM, Lea Chescotta wrote: > > Hi Andreas! Personally I really like the idea, i used Arch Linux for > several years and i always liked way the Arch Wiki was always updated > and containing a lot of useful data, that (i know) it's always >

Re: Simplifying pf-rules

2018-01-04 Thread Marko Cupać
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 14:09:50 +0100 Jon S wrote: > Hello misc! > > My OpenBSD file server just became a router too (after getting a new > internet connection where the provider does not include a router in > the subscription). If possible, I'd avoid combining file server

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Lea Chescotta
Hi Andreas! Personally I really like the idea, i used Arch Linux for several years and i always liked way the Arch Wiki was always updated and containing a lot of useful data, that (i know) it's always available in the manual pages with a lot of more useful data, but i think it's useful to have

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Allan Streib
"Alceu R. de Freitas Jr." writes: > I guess Intel does not give a shit about non-profit groups. Linux got > this attention because there are a lot of players making money from > it, players that surely have some sort of partnership with Intel. >From what I have read in

Re: Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello ! No need for flame or complain or something. What I can remember, there is a German wiki at http://wiki.bsdforen.de and posts at http://bsdnow.tv booth are not up to date. And, what you find using your prefered search engine. But OpenBSD only - extreme seldom. If it is useful for YOU

Community-driven OpenBSD tutorials wiki?

2018-01-04 Thread Andreas Thulin
Hi all! Thought I'd create an OpenBSD wiki somewhere, where anyone (especially non-developers like myself) could create and edit tutorials for stuff non-developers like myself would find useful. I find that sometimes existing tutorials become outdated, and was thinking that a wiki would make

Re: fsck block number integer overflow

2018-01-04 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 09:11:04AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 09:44:55PM -0600, Colton Lewis wrote: > > > When I try to run fsck on partition m of this disk: > > > > # /dev/rsd1c: > > type: SCSI > > disk: SCSI disk > > label: TOSHIBA MD04ACA4 > > duid:

Re: Hellos from.. the region of Üni, The Mighty

2018-01-04 Thread C-DSP
And for the rest of you, know that Racoh Box, shall be realized, if Üni, The Mighty wills.

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Alceu R. de Freitas Jr.
Not that I was able to see. I guess Intel does not give a shit about non-profit groups. Linux got this attention because there are a lot of players making money from it, players that surely have some sort of partnership with Intel. Around 2003, when I was still in college, I went to a IBM talk

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Everybody is reading about it, including people like me that have formerly underestimated the problem... mea culpa The question is, can we have a kernel free of patches for spynet cpus? The Russians are moving to ARM-based cpus, anthough ARM is subject to UK-style Orwellian spynet law. The

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Daniel Boyd
On Jan 4, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Tom Smyth wrote: > > sorry all, > > I had posted to the tech mailing list about this .. I came across these 2 > papers and they may be of interest about the CPU Security flaws > > https://spectreattack.com/ > > I hope this helps > Tom

Simplifying pf-rules

2018-01-04 Thread Jon S
Hello misc! My OpenBSD file server just became a router too (after getting a new internet connection where the provider does not include a router in the subscription). This led to my first experieces with pf. After some work I came up with whats below. It works as I want it to work, but I wonder

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

2018-01-04 Thread Tom Smyth
sorry all, I had posted to the tech mailing list about this .. I came across these 2 papers and they may be of interest about the CPU Security flaws https://spectreattack.com/ I hope this helps Tom Smyth

Re: trouble while building a release

2018-01-04 Thread Etienne
On 03/01/18 18:54, Theo Buehler wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 06:07:36PM +, Etienne wrote: # cd /usr/src/etc && make release […] sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh touch: version: Permission denied /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh[84]: cannot create version: Permission denied You probably didn't

Re: fsck block number integer overflow

2018-01-04 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 09:44:55PM -0600, Colton Lewis wrote: > When I try to run fsck on partition m of this disk: > > # /dev/rsd1c: > type: SCSI > disk: SCSI disk > label: TOSHIBA MD04ACA4 > duid: 8ad0895bc1395d21 > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 >