Re: Spleen with russian (maybe more) cyrillic symbols

back to "?", which might be a substitute of last resort for U+FFFD. On 05/10/2021, ropers wrote: > On 05/10/2021, ropers wrote: >> This does relate to a question I've been thinking about for a while, >> so even if actually offering diffs for that is still way above m

Re: Spleen with russian (maybe more) cyrillic symbols

On 05/10/2021, ropers wrote: > This does relate to a question I've been thinking about for a while, > so even if actually offering diffs for that is still way above my pay > grade, I will offer these thoughts: > > * Of ASCII's 128 characters, only 95 are actually printable (ASCII

Re: Spleen with russian (maybe more) cyrillic symbols

sue of UTF-8 compliance by everything else in base and ports... I hope that was useful and worth the verbiage. Thanks for your time, Ian (Ian Ropers) Footnotes: [0] Yes, they're properly called sticks. 8 sticks of 16 characters in ASCII; 16 sticks of 16 characters in EASCII. See Bob Bemer's I

Re: Why is tmpfs not working on OpenBSD?

>> iio7 wrote: >>> instead of giving these useless comments, that you apparently >>> have got plenty of time to do, you should actually provide some >>> kind of useful information somewhere! > deraadt wrote: >> or we could decide we don't owe whiners like you anything >> and continue to focus

Re: vi: count occurrences of a substring

On 04/09/2021, ropers wrote: > On 04/09/2021, Marc Chantreux wrote: >> Another solution is to write commands for this kind of tasks: >> >> <<\. cat > ~/x >> #! /bin/ksh >> >> sed -r 's/a/&\ >> /g' >> . > > Wait, hold up, I

Re: vi: count occurrences of a substring

On 04/09/2021, Parodper wrote: > O 04/09/21 ás 18:25, ropers escribiu: >> On 04/09/2021, Parodper wrote: >>> So I wrote >>> :!sed s/abc/abc\/g % | grep -c abc >>> and then went back and pressed after that backslash, i.e. >>> :!sed s/abc/abc\/g % | gr

vi: count occurrences of a substring

On 04/09/2021, Marc Chantreux wrote: > hello, > >> :!sed s/abc/abc\n/g % | grep -c abc > > Note: in sed, "what i just matched" is noted & Oh, that's good, thank you. *Shoulda seenit on the man page -- butta dinnt.* >From sed(1): > An ampersand (‘&’) appearing in the replacement is replaced

vi: count occurrences of a substring

On 04/09/2021, Parodper wrote: > I think I found something. From POSIX > (https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/sed.html): > > A line can be split by substituting a into it. The > > application shall escape the in the replacement by preceding > > it by a . Are you or is

Re: vi: count occurrences of a substring

On 04/09/2021, Marc Chantreux wrote: > > :w !tr -cs '[:alnum:]' '\n'|grep -c abc > Is tr's -s option there to eliminate multiple newlines? If so, is there harm in omitting it, since grep won't count those anyway? :w !tr -c '[:alnum:]' '\n' | grep -c abc I think your one-liner is not bad.

Re: vi: count occurrences of a word

On 04/09/2021, Parodper wrote: > To use newlines with sed I use tr and a char I know does not appear on > the text, like '|' or '`'. I just tested > :!sed s/abc/abc€/g % | tr '€' '\n' | grep -c abc > and it worked fine. That's a neat trick -- IFF you can be *sure* that character won't show up in

Re: vi: count occurrences of a word

^M's, and it took a while for me to catch on to how they were a problem. On 04/09/2021, ropers wrote: > On 03/09/2021, Marc Chantreux wrote: >>> 'abc' in FILE, from within vi. >> >> * % means 'the current file' in vi commands so you can write > > That's helpful; thank

Re: vi: count occurrences of a word

On 03/09/2021, Marc Chantreux wrote: >> 'abc' in FILE, from within vi. > > * % means 'the current file' in vi commands so you can write That's helpful; thank you! > * | is the command separator > * grep has a -c flag to count occurrences > > so you can write: > > :w|grep -c abc % That

Re: vi golf: command on a motion?

> i['d] forgotten & (not that useful in vim) but yes! now you reminds me, it makes perfect sense to use it in nvi. Speaking of things that make no sense in one vi clone but work in another, I recently ended up looking for a way to count occurrences of 'abc' in FILE, from within vi. In vim you

a man.openbsd.org oddity, and a cvsweb niggle

For the online man pages at man.openbsd.org, apparently any page PRIOR to OpenBSD 5.1 will show pagename(0) in the , e.g. not wsdisplay(4) but wsdisplay(0). The OpenBSD 5.0/5.1 watershed is also when links in man pages become clickable. I think somebody told me this before, but I've forgotten

Re: man page correctness query re. man 4 vga

t would be very welcome! In the end of the day, I don't want some Wikipeejit to blame OpenBSD for their mode-ical misinformation: "But they said...", yadda, yadda, yadda. Thanks and regards, Ian (Ian Ropers) [0] https://man.netbsd.org/NetBSD-1.4/vga.4 [1] https://man.openbsd.org/Open

man page correctness query re. man 4 vga

wn questions. Any help or clarifications would be great appreciated. Thanks and regards, Ian (Ian Ropers) PS: Btw., can anyone elucidate the etymology of the "ic" in /src/sys/dev/ic/? Is it because these devices all have integrated circuits, or does the "ic" stand for something e

Re: Who is responsible for ports.su? (admittedly a non-canon resource)

Thank you! I'll get around to that shortly, hopefully. On 14/06/2021, Marcus MERIGHI wrote: > rop...@gmail.com (ropers), 2021.06.14 (Mon) 00:21 (CEST): >> > On 2021-06-13, ropers wrote: >> >> Sorry to disturb, but does anyone know how to contact whoever is >&g

Re: Who is responsible for ports.su? (admittedly a non-canon resource)

> On 2021-06-13, ropers wrote: >> Sorry to disturb, but does anyone know how to contact whoever is >> responsible for ports.su? >> An email address would be great, though I'm not sure if it's okay to >> post that on-list. Perhaps it's okay to send that off-list? >

Who is responsible for ports.su? (admittedly a non-canon resource)

Sorry to disturb, but does anyone know how to contact whoever is responsible for ports.su? An email address would be great, though I'm not sure if it's okay to post that on-list. Perhaps it's okay to send that off-list? Thank you, Ian

Re: home printer

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. [more words below] On 11/02/2021, Stuart Longland wrote: > The thing is… the printer is an electro-*mechanical* device. > > There's backlash, there's timing glitches. Even *without* deliberate > "steganography" (are Stegosauruses involved?), your print-out

Re: home printer

I reject the insinuation that only blackmailers need anonymous speech. Reality Winner is but one example to the contrary. Without anonymous speech, there can be no free speech. People might deem it a no-brainer that "They" would do something like this, but the real no-brainer is understanding

Re: home printer

On 08/02/2021, Pierre-Philipp Braun wrote: >> Same here. Currently, a Kyocera P2135dn is sitting on the desk here, >> but i can't say whether it is good because i'm printing so little. > > Seems Kyocera is a nice hint indeed. Otherwise I would go for Xerox. > Even their low-end printers do

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

On 14/07/2019, ropers wrote: > On 13/07/2019, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Hi Ian, >> >> ropers wrote on Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 02:53:28AM +0200: >> >>> altnumd with e.g. CP437 support >> >> Over my dead body. We won't add support for legacy character en

Re: Postscript printer recommendations

On 13/07/2019, Jonathan Drews <> wrote: > Hi Folks: I need some recommendations on what brand of printers will > work > with Ghostscript (Postscript). The cartridges for my 15 year old HP > Deskjet have gotten too expensive. I know Xerox makes some > Postscript printers. Are there any other

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

On 12/07/2019, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Ian, > > ropers wrote on Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 01:37:16AM +0200: >> On 11/07/2019, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >>> There is no reason to make it different. ASCII is a subset of Unicode, >>> with the same numberin

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

On 12/07/2019, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi NilsOla, > > NilsOla Nilsson wrote on Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:24:24PM +0200: > >> I am using cwm and ksh and at present my compose key >> work in st and in gvim, but not in xterm. >> I am on current updated a few weeks ago. > > Oh. Thank you for the hint.

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

sts who want to deanonymise the Net, which may be related.) Either way, maybe this is something you'll want to look into from your end? > ropers wrote on Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:41:45AM +0200: > >> While I'm personally only or mainly interested in Alt+numeric input, >> if altn

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

On 11/07/2019, Matthew Graybosch wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 00:41:45 +0200 > ropers wrote: > >> Any hints on how to even start with that hardest part, or what to read >> or where to look would be MORE than welcome. > > Hi, ropers. I've been reading this thread about

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

On 10/07/2019, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Ian, > > ropers wrote on Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 03:03:08AM +0200: > >> I intend to write feature "altnumd" and would like advice for how to >> go about it. > > My opinion is that we don't have too few methods for

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

On 10/07/2019, ropers wrote: > [1] Strictly by way of loose comparison: Just because unlinked and > fclose'd files may be well and truly gone from the disk by the time > you use foremost to search for them > <http://ports.su/security/foremost>, [that] doesn't mean that fo

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

On 10/07/2019, Marc Espie wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 11:16:24PM +0200, ropers wrote: >> On 09/07/2019, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> > The lsof port didn't display filenames. That information is not >> > available on OpenBSD (and is not trustworthy on other OS ei

Re: When will OpenBSD become a friendly place for bug reporters?

On 09/07/2019, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > Perhaps rather than whining that OpenBSD lacks some specific feature, those > who want it could write it? A novel idea, I know, but it IS specifically a > development platform and there are precisely zero restrictions. > > Or if you don't wish to start with

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

> On 2019-07-09, ropers wrote: >> Just for the record, I think *my* (not the OP's) problem when trying >> to grep fstat results was that unlike lsof, fstat didn't show the >> former file names (hence unlinked); it only showed inodes, so I never >> got the "fin

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

Just for the record, I think *my* (not the OP's) problem when trying to grep fstat results was that unlike lsof, fstat didn't show the former file names (hence unlinked); it only showed inodes, so I never got the "find this former file" part to work on OpenBSD. I have since found this blog post,

Re: 4GB RAM too little for Firefox?

On 08/07/2019, Allan Streib wrote: > I have recently encountered another issue with firefox, that is it will > fill up my /tmp partition with "ghost" files. Meaning, df(1) (and other > applications) will tell me that my 4GB /tmp is full, but I don't see any > files there and du(1) will say that

Re: ed(1) man page doesn't mention use of single / and ?

personal opinion on this. I'm just trying to respond to mazocomp's reasonable observation and suggestion. Ian On 07/07/2019, ropers wrote: > mazocomp opined: >> Hi! >> >> I am not good at explaining something shortly and clearly to fit into >> proper documentation, so I'll

Re: ed(1) man page doesn't mention use of single / and ?

e following are legal in both > OpenBSD ed, Plan 9 ed and GNU ed: > /something > / > ? > g/ing > > I hope I made life of many ed users easier :) > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:47:50PM +0200, ropers wrote: >> Do I understand correctly that this is in reference to these

Re: OT: hardware war with manufacturers (espionage claims)

On 06/07/2019, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Precisely. Most of the risks are in the bugs, and if you hit a problem > you'll be Dennis Muilenburg saying you didn't know (that phrase works > one way today, but if in the next few days he leaves his position, it > will work a different way). The unknown

Re: ed(1) man page doesn't mention use of single / and ?

Do I understand correctly that this is in reference to these parts of man 1 ed: > /re/ >The next line containing the regular expression re. The search wraps to > the beginning of the buffer and continues down to the current line, if > necessary. “//” repeats the last search. > ?re? >

Re: OT: hardware war with manufacturers (espionage claims)

On 04/07/2019, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > ropers writes: >> ::I put on my robe and tinfoil hat.:: > >> ... Wow. The things you guys come up with ... > > I mean yeah, I guess, in theory maybe? > > Of course in order to achieve this level of evil you need

Re: OT: hardware war with manufacturers (espionage claims)

::I put on my robe and tinfoil hat.:: What keeps me awake at night is the thought of code running on things we traditionally don't even think of as having CPUs, like on SSDs, on the integrated device electronics of SATA disks for example. Or on the CPU inside your CPU, like the Minix computer

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

Oops, I just mistakenly attributed Ingo's earlier reply to Edgar. Apologies to both, and thanks very much for the help. Ian On 30/06/2019, ropers wrote: > On 30/06/2019, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: >>>> Then you need to say (...snip; see earlier email...) > > Thank you. T

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

On 30/06/2019, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: >>> Then you need to say (...snip; see earlier email...) Thank you. That contained several useful hints I hadn't even figured out I could look for there, although this too seems obvious in retrospect. Maybe I'm not thinking about these things carefully

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

On 28/06/2019, Ingo Schwarze <> wrote: (...) while the fact that the cwd is a property > of each process is actually fairly obvious in the first place. > What else could it possibly be, in a multi-user system? Fair enough; I suppose it's one of these things that once you know them, they're

[history][humour] B before C (was: The su manual doesn't mention use root account by default)

Ingo Schwarze wrote: > su(I) goes back all the way to v1: (...) It wasn't in v0 PDP-7 UNIX though: > https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/McIlroy_v0/UnixEditionZero.txt >From that text file's Introduction: >> Besides the system proper, the major programs available under >> UNIX

[OT][man and basic comprehension][amateur hour] cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour (was: The su manual doesn't mention use root account by default)

Ingo Schwarze wrote: > su(I) goes back all the way to v1: (...) It wasn't in v0 PDP-7 UNIX though: > https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/McIlroy_v0/UnixEditionZero.txt >From that text file: >> 8.4 chdir -- change directories >> >> To change the current directory, use >> >>

Re: Security of OpenBSD

On 04/06/2019, Stuart Henderson wrote: > Also see Ken Thompson's classic paper, "Reflections on Trusting Trust", > especially the moral. That moral brought back memories of The Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling, which is freely available online and which I'd happily recommend to anyone remotely

Re: Modern browser for OpenBSD powerpc

Thanks for sharing, and if you know a way to administer and use all the functionality of Gmail without ever logging into Gmail's web interface, let me know. On 23/05/2019, Craig Skinner wrote: > On Thu, 23 May 2019 11:25:12 +0200 ropers wrote: >> OP has a Gmail address, > &

Re: Modern browser for OpenBSD powerpc

On 23/05/2019, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: > > On 5/22/19 11:19 PM, John Gould wrote: >> Can someone suggest a modern graphical browser for OpenBSD PowerPC? > > Dillo is a pretty good browser that works on macppc. It doesn't support > javascript, but is perfectly adequate for reading non-terrible

Re: single user question

On 17/05/2019, Roderick wrote: > As far as I know, DOS was not multitasking. You're mostly correct, except there were task-switchers and there were some multitasking-capable versions of DOS, notably Novell (ex-DR-) DOS 7. This was not very successful in the marketplace, in part because it was

Re: web hosting

AFAICT, devio.us has been in maintenance mode for a while now. I'm not sure it's coming back, or is it? On 15/05/2019, Solène Rapenne wrote: > > Le 15 mai 2019 21:06, Gustavo Rios a écrit : >> >> I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written. >> Do have any suggestion on web

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote: > ...you'd better crank way up on its fonts. Fvwm fonts > are so small that if you have bad vision, you can't read the screen > well enough to increase the font size. > > It's easy for a well-sighted person to reduce fonts, but for the poorly > sighted person

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

sure if the added complexity of that would be an advantage to a proficient user. If anyone sees anything seriously wrong with this, speak now or forever hold your peace. > Original Message > From: ropers > Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 21:07 > To: noah pugsley > Cc: Edgar Pettijohn; Steve L

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

> From: ropers > Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm? > > Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch > graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm: > > $ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 & >

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 8 May 2019 00:23:09 +0200 > ropers wrote: > >> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm? >> >> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch >> graphical apps by ty

Re: When will be created a great desktop experience for OpenBSD?

Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm? Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm: $ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 & or do you normally do something else that I've totally overlooked?

Re: Firefox bug: 66.0.3 disables all extensions

On 05/05/2019, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > The second link offers a solution: > > > To provide this fix on short notice, we are using the Studies > system. This system is enabled by default, and no action is > needed unless Studies have been disabled. Firefox users can >

Re: No more KDE's dolphin after upgrade to 6.5

On 26/04/2019, Rafael Sadowski wrote: > run "pkg_add -X" to remove all your installed packages Is -X undocumented for pkg_add(1), or am I overlooking something?

Re: ws

PS: Oh, and wsrc stands for write to /usr/src, sorry: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#wsrc On 14/04/2019, ropers wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:31:33AM +0900, Jerome Pinot wrote: >>> I'm curious to know what is the origin of the "w(s)" prefix we have >

Re: ws

> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:31:33AM +0900, Jerome Pinot wrote: >> I'm curious to know what is the origin of the "w(s)" prefix we have >> on some OpenBSD specific places, like: >> - wscons >> -wsmoused >> - wskbd >> - wsrc >> - wobj >> etc >> >> It seems to be a quite old practice and common with

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

behaviour in the traditional-vi port <http://ports.su/editors/traditional-vi>, which would remain available regardless of what, if anything, is done to OpenBSD's stock vi or (upstream?) nvi. On 20/02/2019, Ted Unangst wrote: > ropers wrote: >> I personally agree with Sijmen. OpenBSD has always p

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

On 20/02/2019, Todd C. Miller wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:04:36 +0100, ropers wrote: > >> While this feature/bug is counter-intuitive (IMHO), I presume nvi acts >> this way so as to be bug-for-bug compatible with original vi. (That's >> my guess. I haven't actually

Re: Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

> On 2019-02-18 09:04, ropers wrote: > [...] >> vi(1) has a feature where pressing ESC while in command-line mode >> (i.e. entering an ex command in command mode) will sometimes cancel >> the current line of ex input, but other times will have the same >> effect as

Is there a fix for stock vi's bug-for-bug compatible ESC-equals-return feature?

BACKGROUND: When I use vi on OpenBSD, I use stock vi (which is nvi) instead of installing vim, because: (1), I haven't outgrown plain vanilla vi yet, and (2), while still learning, I'm trying not to pick up vim habits and create a dependency on vim-only features, since stock vi is on every

OT: Yandex - was Re: Why is ftp option removed from installer?

On 8 May 2018 at 19:12, Leonid Bobrov wrote: > but in my country (Ukraine) Yandex is blocked, > but my ISP didn't block ftp://mirror.yandex.ru OT, but America also seems to mess with Yandex in weird ways, whereby at least some American users get Yandex.ru redirected to

Re: Kernel memory leaking on Intel CPUs?

On 4 January 2018 at 09:13, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > The Chinese have an interesting project on RISC, who is taking ages to hit > the market. > Is that https://www.openbsd.org/loongson.html or are you referring to something else?

Re: Please: Is there ANY chance that Linux binaries might run again???

On 11 March 2017 at 15:18, Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote: > On 2017/03/10 23:56, ropers wrote: > > On 10 March 2017 at 01:30, Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> > > wrote: > > > > (And unlike Linux, 32-bit OpenBSD binar

Re: Missing artwork link in OpenBSD site

On 6 July 2016 at 23:04, Vinicius Pavanelli wrote: > Hi, > > I was looking for the puffy artwork and the Artwork link in the site > directs to the lyrics page not the artworks. > > After some google I got the old Artwork pages, like > http://www.openbsd.org/art1.html > > Is

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

On 14 June 2016 at 00:53, frantisek holop wrote: > the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook > with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it. > Thanks for the addition and dmesg. Do you know if all the Travelmate B115's are fanless or only the M models, not MP or P?

Re: generate xorg.conf

On 13 June 2016 at 12:31, Jan Stary wrote: > > > (I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom > intuos3 > > tablet [pressure sensitivity].) > > You mean, you have installed OpenBSD on this tablet? > The intuos 3 is a graphics tablet human interface

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

Compiled for myself and the archives: < Fanless OpenBSD-capable (probably) laptops > Some of these specs/prices highly uncertain/unreliable/subject to change. Interface abundance decreases from top to bottom. Toughbooks don't seem to have built-in mics, which may be a plus for the practical

Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

Does anybody here have a fanless laptop they run OpenBSD on? (Possibly even as their primary computer? How poor of a desktop replacement is it?) If not, is there anything that comes close (and how much can I not afford it)?

Re: I need to get a Russian keyboard

On 28 May 2016 at 02:33, Brandon Vincent wrote: > When I saw this thread, I was reminded of my attempts to get a > keyboard as cool (although inaccurate) as the one in Tomorrow Never > Dies (1997). > I once knew a feller called Tom Morrow who was a draper by trade. He

Re: I need to get a Russian keyboard

On 27 May 2016 at 22:16, Chris Bennett wrote: > Can I borrow someone's 3D printer so that I can make my own identical > keys except with Cyrillic letters only? > There is no rush, after all, I'm not going to actually use it, it's just > going to be a decorative piece in the living room Despite

Re: I need to get a Russian keyboard

If you're looking for the normal default ЙЦУКЕН / JTSUKEN /JCUKEN layout*,* that's pretty common, and you can just google/ebay/amazon search for Russian/Cyrillic keyboards. (Exclude -stickers -sticker if there are too many hits of those where you are.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JCUKEN

Re: Impossibility of cryptographic verification of downloads

On 25 May 2016 at 23:59, Rubén Llorente wrote: > Many people is just uding the TOFU model with the keys. > Because I didn't get it at first and had to google it: For the archives: is -> are (grammar) uding -> using (typo) TOFU -> Trust On First Use

Re: Recording computer sound.

Is this helpful? http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-current/man7/sndio.7#DEVICE_NAMES On 9 April 2016 at 01:01, Henrique N. Lengler <henriquel...@openmailbox.org> wrote: > But what device should I specify? > > Please give full answers. > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 12:46:53A

Re: Recording computer sound.

Oh, scratch that. I was getting confused myself. I think it's actually just /dev/audio but I better shut up and don't say it because I'm not on an OpenBSD box now. Sorry for the noise. On 9 April 2016 at 02:19, ropers <rop...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is this helpful? > http://man.openbsd

Re: Recording computer sound.

You mean with aucat(1)? On 9 April 2016 at 00:09, Henrique N. Lengler wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to record the sound playing on my speakers? > Like duplicating it and saving on my computer everything that goes out to > the > speaker. > > I would like to to

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

On 4 April 2016 at 02:06, Adam Thompson <athom...@athompso.net> wrote: > On 2016-04-01 11:07, ropers wrote: > >> And if anyone has ever operated the OpenBSD installer via a teleprinter, >> I want to hear that story. >> > > I think there's still a first-gene

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

Steve Litt wrote: > I was a DEC PDP/11 TSX over RT-11 guy back then, but as I remember, a > terminal was a television that printed letters and numbers plus a > keyboard on which you could type. I have to disagree a little bit in that actual TVs were too low-rez for good 80-column text, which has

lyrics.html omellete --> omelette

http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html s/omellete/omelette/g Or omelet in American English.

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

On 29 March 2016 at 14:18, Nick Holland wrote: > * ADM3A (a terminal that was old when the DEC vt100 came out) > I want to add special emphasis to Nick's mention of this terminal. It is more fully known as the LSI ADM-3A. LSI for Lear Siegler Incorporated. This for some reason was yuuugely

Re: OT: Looking for email host with qmail like minus-addressing for custom domain

On 3 March 2016 at 10:14, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > - is allowed in usernames: > > $ doas useradd -m foo > $ doas useradd -m foo-bar > > Who should get mail for foo-bar@ ? > > This just doesn't happen with + because: > > $ doas useradd -m bar > $ doas useradd -m bar+baz

Re: OT: Looking for email host with qmail like minus-addressing for custom domain

On 2 March 2016 at 23:59, Jason Barbier wrote: > [You're] probably going to have to suck it up at some point and use + > [delimiters] like most people have moved to doing since according to the > RFC - is a valid email address char. > So is +.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

On 17 February 2016 at 04:23, Eric Furman wrote: > I'm totally confused as to why we constantly get GNU/Linux douche bags > on this list wanting to talk about GNU/Linux. > To get equal time to teach the controversy?

Re: Willing to help

On 26 January 2016 at 00:37, Rodrigo Mosconi wrote: > * ftp(8) is very old and suffering from bitrot; the last attempt to > >rewrite it trickled out with no obvious conclusion, i don't > >exactly know why. > > > > ftp client or ftp server? > That must be a typo. There is no ftp(8), but

FAQ 5.7 question

Is there a reason why the list of platform-specific configuration files under does not (directly) include amd64?

Re: Is a gmail/text-flow dmesg better than no dmesg?

> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 07:09:58PM +0100, ropers wrote: >> It says here <http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#SendDmesg> that one >> should not send dmesg@ mail that's text-flow reformatted (which I >> AFAIK gmail always does, unavoidably). >> >> If (for

Re: Is a gmail/text-flow dmesg better than no dmesg?

Cheers man. All the best to you too -- and to everybody else around. On 1 January 2016 at 01:18, Erling Westenvik <erling.westen...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 04:00:50PM +0100, ropers wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 07:09:58PM +0100, ropers wrote: >&g

Is a gmail/text-flow dmesg better than no dmesg?

It says here that one should not send dmesg@ mail that's text-flow reformatted (which I AFAIK gmail always does, unavoidably). If (for whatever reasons) the choice is between gmail-dmesgs or no dmesgs, would gmail dmesgs be preferable to none

Re: file(1) - install.iso is 44.1kHz, stereo

I'm guessing this question may have arisen because the file(1) commonly used in Linux doesn't mention the kHz and Stereo bits: Linux$ file install59.iso install59.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'OpenBSD/amd64 5.9 Install CD' (bootable) OpenBSD$ file install59.iso install59.iso: ISO 9660

FAQ 9 diff suggestion (maybe superfluous; not sure)

For http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html : diff -u faq9.html.orig faq9.html --- faq9.html.orig2015-12-28 02:20:43.148113257 +0100 +++ faq9.html2015-12-28 03:42:08.119953895 +0100 @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ Edition-style) password file to BSD-style. 9.4 - Running Linux binaries on OpenBSD 9.5 -

(pretty trivial) FAQ 4 diff suggestions

Feel free to reject the below without comment if these changes are not deemed improvements: --- faq4.html.orig2015-12-20 21:56:34.565914000 +0100 +++ faq4.html2015-12-21 23:33:22.311786584 +0100 @@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ 4.1 - Overview of the OpenBSD installation procedure -OpenBSD has long

/pub/OpenBSD/5.{7|8}/tools/ntrw.* not present as documented

east on http://artfiles.org/openbsd/5.6/ (and probably others), tools/ does exist and does contain ntrw. Not sure if this is a FAQ problem or a download server/mirror problem. Btw., ftp://ftp.bit.nl/pub/OpenBSD/ currently returns "501 PASV: Operation not permitted". regards, –ropers

FAQ 3.3 - suggested copyright clarification diff

For http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html : --- faq3.html.orig2015-12-20 17:13:16.688175000 +0100 +++ faq3.html2015-12-20 17:16:37.529726012 +0100 @@ -103,7 +103,7 @@ official OpenBSD CDs. As an incentive for people to buy the CD set, some extras are included in the package as well

Re: faq 11 can be clarified

cted WITH DDC. Xorg -configure would write you a nice xorg.conf. Afterwards, in regular use, your monitor would be connected WITHOUT DDC, preventing any sensing/plug and play/autodetection from working. Don't assume that just because you can do X once, you'll always be able to do X ('scuse the pun). regards, –ropers

Re: Fixes to donor list

On 26 October 2015 at 21:26, Tae Wong wrote: > The page is located at http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html > > Duplicate donors to remove: > (...) > Have some names not capitalized. > (...) > I [don't] know if someone can create a patch > Yah, okay, I'll do it, seeing

Re: Diffie-Helman issue?

Also see: http://www.openbsd.org/58.html Search that page for 1024 (two occurrences). On 17 October 2015 at 14:03, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2015-10-17, <22xtrv+f800c4addk...@guerrillamail.com> < > 22xtrv+f800c4addk...@guerrillamail.com> wrote: > > According to > > >

Re: NSA transition to quantum resistant algorithms

On 18 August 2015 at 21:30, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 07:09:30PM +0200, Tim Kuijsten wrote: Op 15-08-15 om 21:14 schreef Devin Reade: Interesting background info, including recommended minimum key sizes during the interim:

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