Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-18 Thread unix
On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 21:04:54 +0300 unix wrote: > Hello. My reasons for this proposition: > 1. The user will be able to test basic websites without installing > anything. > 2. The user will be able to read an incredibly useful official > FAQ, with no external devices involved. > 3. The user will

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-14 Thread Marc Espie
We used to have lynx in the base system. It was removed because of security concerns and no-one willing to audit/replace it. This is a fairly common pattern in OpenBSD. Considering the complexity of the web, I don't see this ending any differently with any other text browser.

Re: Old Unix manuals (was: Re: A minimal browser in base)

2022-09-14 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 07:00:56AM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 06:54:40PM -0400, luna wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 07:04:55 +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote: > > > hi. > > > > > > we stopped installing them because many of them were falling out of date > > > and there

Re: Old Unix manuals (was: Re: A minimal browser in base)

2022-09-14 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 06:54:40PM -0400, luna wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 07:04:55 +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote: > > hi. > > > > we stopped installing them because many of them were falling out of date > > and there wasn;t really the resources (or motivation) to update them. > > however not

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-13 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:43:30PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote: > > Long ago and far away, the Berkeley distributions used to ship an > assortment of system documentation in /usr/share/doc, including a > general-purpose system administrators manual. > > I guess people didn't

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-13 Thread prx
For what it's worth, I keep a downloadable copy of the FAQ : => https://si3t.ch/pub/openbsd-faq/ => https://si3t.ch/pub/openbsd-faq.tgz html is dumped to txt to read with any pager. One can keep it on a disk if necessary. Regards.

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-12 Thread Josuah Demangeon
"Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" wrote: > Regardless, if someone does write a new "intro to sysadmin" document, I really like to say to fresh new admins that if they want to learn everything about system administration, find an OpenBSD system and type "help" in any shell, then start reading

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-12 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
Chris Bennett writes: > I would instead recommend a new package with the critical newbie > information included in text form. > FAQ, anoncvs and ftp addresses, etc. Long ago and far away, the Berkeley distributions used to ship an assortment of system documentation in /usr/share/doc, including a

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-12 Thread Chris Bennett
I would instead recommend a new package with the critical newbie information included in text form. FAQ, anoncvs and ftp addresses, etc. The first afterboot man page could suggest something like pkg_add newuser_docs. If you need or want it, just install it. Sure, I install Lynx to look at the

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-12 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 09:04:54PM +0300, unix wrote: > Hello. My reasons for this proposition: > 1. The user will be able to test basic websites without installing > anything. > 2. The user will be able to read an incredibly useful official > FAQ, with no external devices involved. > 3. The user

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-11 Thread Christopher Turkel
pkg_add -r w3m On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 9:01 AM unix wrote: > > > With the web as it is, I can't see a text-mode browser as being > > comfortable for day-to-day desktop usage. In addition, some of the gui > > browsers have some degree of process separation and jailing, and > > active enough

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-10 Thread Philipp Buehler
Am 10.09.2022 21:29 schrieb Stuart Henderson: With the web as it is, I can't see a text-mode browser as being comfortable for day-to-day desktop usage. In addition, some of the gui browsers have some degree of process separation and jailing, and active enough development there's a better chance

Re: A minimal browser in base

2022-09-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2022-09-10, unix wrote: > Hello. My reasons for this proposition: We went through this before when we decided to remove lynx. > 1. The user will be able to test basic websites without installing > anything. > 2. The user will be able to read an incredibly useful official > FAQ, with no