Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-21 Thread patrick keshishian
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:40 AM Theo de Raadt wrote: > Wow, look -- more useless chatter on the topic. > > The bt stack we had was designed as "network code", and all sorts of > complex layer violations and device hand-offs were very complicated and > troublesome. > > The code was not deleted

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread John Brahy
Ha. I was about to start out with how I can guess how complicated managing an operating system is. Then I see the last line of your email saying, "How about if you don't know, stop making guesses". My comments only apply to my experience coding for bluetooth on mobile devices and it was just

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
Bryan Wright wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:06, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > Bryan Wright wrote: > > > >> Are there technical/philosophical problems that make all versions of > >> Bluetooth incompatible with the project, or is it a just matter of > >> removing what is not being maintained?

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
Wow, look -- more useless chatter on the topic. The bt stack we had was designed as "network code", and all sorts of complex layer violations and device hand-offs were very complicated and troublesome. The code was not deleted because bluetooth is shit. The code was deleted *because it was

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread Bryan Wright
> On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:06, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Bryan Wright wrote: > >> Are there technical/philosophical problems that make all versions of >> Bluetooth incompatible with the project, or is it a just matter of >> removing what is not being maintained? > > I'm sure a bunch of you can

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread John Brahy
Right, without reading the code and only reading this commit message it's all conjecture. I was just hoping to hear something more if someone was inclined to share. inclined. The commit message seems like some sort of inside joke. Log message: "It's not the years, honey; it's the mileage."

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
Bryan Wright wrote: > Are there technical/philosophical problems that make all versions of > Bluetooth incompatible with the project, or is it a just matter of > removing what is not being maintained? I'm sure a bunch of you can come up with theories about what actually transpired, without

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread Bryan Wright
Are there technical/philosophical problems that make all versions of Bluetooth incompatible with the project, or is it a just matter of removing what is not being maintained?

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread John Brahy
ok, thanks. Bluetooth is overcomplicated and if it's not managed properly it just opens up the attack surface for no reason. It definitely makes some things easy but there are always workarounds. On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 11:52 PM Consus wrote: > On 17:12 Tue 06 Aug, John Brahy wrote: > > Hello,

Re: Bluetooth support status

2019-08-07 Thread Consus
On 17:12 Tue 06 Aug, John Brahy wrote: > Hello, > > Just curious if there was any change in OpenBSD supporting bluetooth. Sadly, there is none.

Bluetooth support status

2019-08-06 Thread John Brahy
Hello, Just curious if there was any change in OpenBSD supporting bluetooth. In this commit from tedu@ it's saying that support was ripped out of the kernel because it never really worked. https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs=140511572108715=2 man -k blue brings up nothing appros. Thanks, JB