Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-26 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Peter Laufenberg open...@laufenberg.ch wrote: My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional technique used in in the past. But that's for targeted surveillance. They still cast a wide net: on ccc.de there's a detailed

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-25 Thread Joe Gain
car + eimer? ay carambas?!! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Stuart VanZee stua...@datalinesys.com wrote: What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Laufenberg
car + eimer? ay carambas?!! Autoeimer, with unlimited strcat() known to overflow students' brains. Yes the Bundestrojaner. I pictured a fat politician's soggy condom on the back of his doggy-style mistress: one for the country! Mild stuff considering German pr0n culture. -- p On Thu, May 24,

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-25 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Peter Laufenberg open...@laufenberg.ch wrote: My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional technique used in in the past. But that's for targeted surveillance. The original article refers to a bulk grep of 16,400

German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Stefan Wollny
Hi there! What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de (http://www.golem.de/news/bundesregierung-deutsche-geheimdienste-koennen-pgp- entschluesseln-1205-92031.html) that the German government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH. The

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 02:26:43PM +0200, Stefan Wollny wrote: Hi there! What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de (http://www.golem.de/news/bundesregierung-deutsche-geheimdienste-koennen-pgp- entschluesseln-1205-92031.html)

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Franco Fichtner
Hi Stefan, On May 24, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Stefan Wollny wrote: Question: 3. Is the technique used also able to at least in part decode and/or analyze encrypted communication (e.g. by SSH of PGP)? Answer: Yes, the technique used is in principle able to do this, depending on the way and

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Stefan Wollny ste...@wollny.de wrote: that the German government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH. I think you have to be cluelessly paranoid to read such a claim into a meaningless statement. Question: 3. Is the technique used also able to at least in part decode and/or analyze

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Anonymous Remailer (austria)
You wrote: Hi there! What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de (http://www.golem.de/news/bundesregierung-deutsche-geheimdienste-koennen-pgp- entschluesseln-1205-92031.html) that the German government claims to be able to break

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
On 2012-05-24 14:00:01 naddy () mips ! inka ! de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: Stefan Wollny ste...@wollny.de wrote: that the German government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH. I think you have to be cluelessly paranoid to read such a claim into a meaningless statement.

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Peter Laufenberg
What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional technique used in in the past. -- p

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen
Peter Laufenberg wrote: What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional technique used in in the past. Yes,

Re: German Government claims to be able to break PGP and SSH

2012-05-24 Thread Stuart VanZee
What do you guys think about the reliability of the news (unfortunatelly in German only) on www.golem.de My German's rusty but the follow-up article quoting Symantec mentions spyware/keylogging, which has been the traditional technique used in in the past. -- p Quick, someone, how do you say