Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-27 Thread Dumitru Mișu Moldovan
On 06/26/18 11:03, Marco van Hulten wrote: Robert, On 25 Jun 22:01 Robert Gilaard wrote: I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I assume they will be opensource friendly. It could be fine, but I would

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:47:31 -0400 Rupert Gallagher > What crap is this? YOURS. What you put into a system is what you get from the same system..

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Stuart Longland wrote: The IBM Thinkpads… sure, they worked well. The Lenovo ones? Looking at the ones around the office, they've been a bit hit-and-miss, on both Linux and their out-of-the-box Windows installs. that is true... the latest IBM heritage you can get is the T43, although

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Daniel Corbe
at 2:53 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:01:42 + (UTC) Robert Gilaard I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell Hi Robert, Rupert, Email coming from Yahoo is flagged as phishing scam, wastes time digging. **This is unacceptable advice** Emphasis

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Rupert Gallagher
What crap is this? On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 20:53, wrote: > Your other threads on server boards and systems make much more sense now. You are off topic, and have no fucking clue of what you are talking about.

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:01:42 + (UTC) Robert Gilaard > I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell Hi Robert, Rupert, Email coming from Yahoo is flagged as phishing scam, wastes time digging. This is unacceptable advice, something very wrong with the advertisement. Search

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Henrik Dige Semark
Generally the Lenovo laptops works really well, nothing beats the IBM days, but I have at the moment around 90 or so X1 Carbon's out in the field in various generations from generation 2 all the way to latest 6th gen., never had problems with the Linux support or stability of the laptops. Can't

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Stuart Longland
On 26/06/18 18:03, Marco van Hulten wrote: > In retrospect, I wish I took the similarly spec'ed Lenovo Thinkpad that > my employer also offered, because Thinkpads are said to be "opensource > friendly" (but that may be just as well be wishful thinking). The IBM Thinkpads… sure, they worked well.

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
ThinkPads use devices for which there are open source devices for everything, as far as I know. Still, hardware support in the BSDs lags Linux to varying degrees, because of slower hardware. (My 2015 E550, for example, still lacked full video support in FreeBSD RELEASE,  last time I looked. In

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Marco van Hulten
Robert, On 25 Jun 22:01 Robert Gilaard wrote: > I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell > laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I > assume they will be opensource friendly. It could be fine, but I would not just assume this. The

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-25 Thread Robert Gilaard
I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I assume they will be opensource friendly. I have short listed:1. Dell Precision 7520 ($1502)2. Dell Precision 7720 ($1412)3. Dell Precision 3520 ($1352) Prices

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-23 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I looked into all of your comments, and I thank you for it. The coreboot/libreboot way was very tempting, but not competitive pricewise. I no longer have a desktop since the past century, spoiled by three MBPs, and need something robust, light, and performing. I spotted an offer for a new

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-22 Thread Patrick Harper
X200 is a bad idea, Core 2 Duos will never get microcode updates for Spectre bugs. -- Patrick Harper paia...@fastmail.com On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, at 08:30, flipchan wrote: > I got the x200 with libreboot and openbsd > > On June 19, 2018 10:47:24 AM UTC, Kaya Saman wrote: > >I couldn't say

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-21 Thread flipchan
I got the x200 with libreboot and openbsd On June 19, 2018 10:47:24 AM UTC, Kaya Saman wrote: >I couldn't say for the compatibility with OpenBSD though I have read >other people running on them, but how about Lenovo?? > > >I've got an X220 which I run a Linux distro on which I'm really happy

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-21 Thread bytevolcano
In his defense, you did exactly that which you are accusing him of, not providing "technical" arguments. "Oh look at this laptop which I've apparently never used but I'd recommend you look into anyway." "I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory." It sounds

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-21 Thread Thomas Levine
I spoke with Todd Weaver at LibrePlanet about running OpenBSD on Purism. I suggested that the company install a bunch of operating systems and post dmesg, but I don't think they have done that yet. If I remember correctly, he also said he would be happy to provide a refurbished laptop to a

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Harper
No drm support for Kaveri in OpenBSD 6.3. There is support in current now so 6.4 should work better when it arrives. -- Patrick Harper paia...@fastmail.com On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, at 14:03, Johan Mellberg wrote: > Hmm. I have that one and there’s something fishy with the graphics, when > I

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Johan Mellberg
Hmm. I have that one and there’s something fishy with the graphics, when I boot the installer (6.3) I just get “static” on the built in screen. No problem with any other OS. I just tried booting OpenBSD as a test so have not investigated further, but consider it a potential issue, it might be

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Harper
HP EliteBook 745 G2? -- Patrick Harper paia...@fastmail.com On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, at 09:01, Thomas Frohwein wrote: > No AMD laptop recommendations in this day and age? Also buying used or > refurbished laptops on eBay is a security risk from the outset - ask > yourself how well you would be

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Thomas Frohwein
No AMD laptop recommendations in this day and age? Also buying used or refurbished laptops on eBay is a security risk from the outset - ask yourself how well you would be at spotting if someone had tampered e.g. with the webcam or the firmware? With new hardware, you have at least a reasonable

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Maximilian Pichler
I'm quite happy with my Asus Zenbook 3 (UX390UA). It's thinner, lighter and more powerful than the current MacBooks and costs about 1100 EUR now. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well, every > day, but is

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Patrick Marchand
You can get a pretty good refurbished 3th gen thinkpad x1 carbon under 900$. I've baught two on ebay over the last year,

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 06/19/18 11:20, li...@wrant.com wrote: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:59:45 -0700 Jordan Geoghegan Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. The pinnacle of bullshit talk, utter nonsense, no technical value

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Scott Bonds
On 06/19/18 03:37, Rupert Gallagher wrote: I have 1500EUR for a new laptop. What would you buy with it? On 06/19, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. They run

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 21:16, Scott Bonds wrote: > On 06/19, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: >>Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite >>nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory! > They run OpenBSD fine with some caveats: >

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread lists
Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:59:45 -0700 Jordan Geoghegan > Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're > quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. The pinnacle of bullshit talk, utter nonsense, no technical value at all. > Tue, 19 Jun 2018 06:37:18

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. On 06/19/18 03:37, Rupert Gallagher wrote: I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well, every day, but is now falling apart,

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread traveller
I use 6.3 on my T450S. Works great. Also have installed easily on the Dell E7240 and E7440. I prefer the Thinkpad but the Dell is solid also. You can probably get one of each for under $1000. Likely you will want to replace the battery either way but all of these machines are available used

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Gilles Chehade
I love my DELL Latitude E7240 :-) June 19, 2018 1:01 PM, "Jeffrey Joshua Rollin" wrote: > Definitely second the ThinkPad recommendations. I have an X230i, bought used, > on which I currently > run OpenBSD 6.3, and an E550 on which I've used OpenBSD in the past; both run > perfectly as of

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 06:37:18AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > I have 1500EUR for a new laptop. What would you buy with it? I myself have worn out a few thinkpads over the years, but my last couple of laptops have been Clevo rebrands - local outfits tend to slap their own brands on them,

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
Definitely second the ThinkPad recommendations. I have an X230i, bought used, on which I currently run OpenBSD 6.3, and an E550 on which I've used OpenBSD in the past; both run perfectly as of 6.2, except for the fingerprint reader on the X (although to be fair I haven't tried that again

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Daniel Gracia
I would opt for a Thinkpad. Actually working with a T460s; runs like a charm. If you are looking for mobility, a T series should fit. If you need more horsepower take a look at P series. Of course those are my preferences, YMMV! Regards. El mar., 19 jun. 2018 a las 12:41, Rupert Gallagher ()

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Kaya Saman
I couldn't say for the compatibility with OpenBSD though I have read other people running on them, but how about Lenovo?? I've got an X220 which I run a Linux distro on which I'm really happy with though the i7 CPU does seem to overheat for some reason, though I seem to have this issue with

New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well, every day, but is now falling apart, finally. I would buy a new one if only Steve Jobs would be alive and keeping Apple inspired. The new models are meticulously designed to make you suffer: expensive, slow cpu, soldered ram,