Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Jan 9, 2008 12:45 AM, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:54:58PM -0300, Andr?s wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices. Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:21:01AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: There is also the question of ALSA compatibility layer which is in my understanding slowly incorporated into OSS. Is it really important to have ALSA compatibility layer? Can somebody give me an example of the software which

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely no interest in that whatsoever. you'd have better luck convincing Adobe to make an OpenBSD native version of their

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Deanna Phillips
Jonathan Schleifer writes: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely no interest in that whatsoever. you'd have better luck convincing Adobe to make an

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Dusty
On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Deanna Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Schleifer writes: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely no interest in

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Deanna Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should a worthy alsa-only *open source* app appear, I'm sure that someone could port it to Sun audio. What about libjingle for example? It's opensource and used by all Jabber clients which support VoIP - and it only supports ALSA (at least the last

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Deanna Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should a worthy alsa-only *open source* app appear, I'm sure that someone could port it to Sun audio. What about libjingle for example? It's opensource and used by all Jabber

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:14:27PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely no interest in that whatsoever. you'd have

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Deanna Phillips writes: But for Linux binary emulation? No way. If you want that, run Linux. What kind of people run Linux binaries on OpenBSD, anyway? Don't give me that I need Flash, since I spent months of my life working on Gnash for OpenBSD just so you wouldn't have to use the

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Deanna Phillips
Marco S Hyman writes: Deanna Phillips writes: But for Linux binary emulation? No way. If you want that, run Linux. What kind of people run Linux binaries on OpenBSD, anyway? Don't give me that I need Flash, since I spent months of my life working on Gnash for OpenBSD just so you

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Deanna Phillips writes: ; Do something about it ; Use another OS ; Complain Which are you doing? None of the above. I ignore flash. My comment was only to point out that gnash is not the best example to show why Linux emulation isn't needed. Oh, I ignore Linux emulation, too.

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Andrés
Jacob Meuser wrote: the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices. Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD contribute its development to audio drivers to OSS so all operating systems using it could benefit? And then OpenBSD could support

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Andris wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices. Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD contribute its development to audio drivers to OSS so all operating systems using it could benefit? And then OpenBSD

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:54:58PM -0300, Andr?s wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices. Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD contribute its development to audio drivers to OSS so all operating

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:14:18PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Andr?s wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices. Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD contribute its development to audio drivers

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Matthew Szudzik
There is also the question of ALSA compatibility layer which is in my understanding slowly incorporated into OSS. Is it really important to have ALSA compatibility layer? Can somebody give me an example of the software which requires ALSA (please exclude Skype although there is OSS version)

OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-07 Thread Bryan Linton
I just saw that OSS v4.0 has been released under a 2-clause BSD license. [1] I haven't seen it mentioned on the list yet and I know there's been a lot of audio related development going on in -current so I just thought I'd mention it for anyone who might be interested. Their website hasn't been

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-07 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 05:47:11PM -0800, Bryan Linton wrote: I just saw that OSS v4.0 has been released under a 2-clause BSD license. [1] I haven't seen it mentioned on the list yet and I know there's been a lot of audio related development going on in -current so I just thought I'd

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-07 Thread Unix Fan
Awesome, It's great that they decided to release the code under a 2 clause BSD licence... :-) But I don't the the OpenBSD project should rip out it's entire current framework and start using this package.. Still, It could serve as an excellent research... for additional drivers,