Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-02 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Nick Holland wrote: SNIP Welcome to the REALITY of RAID. If you rely on RAID to always work, and never go down, you Just Don't Understand. SNIP Doesn't matter about drive type, doesn't really matter about device drivers, there are PLENTY of things that CAN and WILL cause

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-02 Thread Peter Fraser
Nick Holland wrote: Welcome to the REALITY of RAID. If you rely on RAID to always work, and never go down, you Just Don't Understand. ... If hardware breaks, don't expect everything else to keep working. Hope, sure. Expect? No. I don't care if you are talking about ccd, RAIDframe,

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-02 Thread knitti
On 2/2/06, Peter Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have yet to have a windows machine die because of a disk failure when mirrored. ok, I'll take the bait. you are documenting simply, that you had luck in the past, perhaps also due to some good hardware (although I do not trust those $25

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread HÃ¥kan Olsson
On 1 feb 2006, at 08.38, Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:19:58AM -0500, Peter wrote: raid0: Device already configured! ioctl (RAIDFRAME_CONFIGURE) failed Can anyone lend a hand in this important matter? Let me guess (since you didn't post any configuration): you enabled

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Peter
--- Ho?=kan Olsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 feb 2006, at 08.38, Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:19:58AM -0500, Peter wrote: raid0: Device already configured! ioctl (RAIDFRAME_CONFIGURE) failed Can anyone lend a hand in this important matter? Let me guess

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 08:45:42AM -0500, Peter wrote: --- Ho?=kan Olsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 feb 2006, at 08.38, Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:19:58AM -0500, Peter wrote: raid0: Device already configured! ioctl (RAIDFRAME_CONFIGURE) failed Can

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Greg Oster
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_Olsson?= writes: On 1 feb 2006, at 08.38, Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:19:58AM -0500, Peter wrote: raid0: Device already configured! ioctl (RAIDFRAME_CONFIGURE) failed Can anyone lend a hand in this important matter? Let me guess (since

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Nick Bender
Side question: I tried unsuccessfully using the same procedure to set up two disks (sd0 and sd1) attached to a QLogic FibreChannel controller (isp driver). I probably don't have the correct terminology but upon startup the boot code could not be found (would not get beyond the point where

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Peter Fraser
I had a disk drive fail while running RAIDframe. The system did not survive the failure. Even worse there was data loss. The system was to be my new web server. The system had 1 Gig of memory. I was working, slowly, on configuring apache and web pages. Moving to a chroot'ed environment was none

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Greg Oster
Peter writes: I tried unsuccessfully using the same procedure to set up two disks (sd0 and sd1) attached to a QLogic FibreChannel controller (isp driver). I probably don't have the correct terminology but upon startup the boot code could not be found (would not get beyond the point where the

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 11:02:22AM -0500, Peter Fraser wrote: I had a disk drive fail while running RAIDframe. The system did not survive the failure. Even worse there was data loss. The system was to be my new web server. The system had 1 Gig of memory. I was working, slowly, on

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Greg Oster
Peter Fraser writes: I had a disk drive fail while running RAIDframe. The system did not survive the failure. Even worse there was data loss. Ow. The system was to be my new web server. The system had 1 Gig of memory. I was working, slowly, on configuring apache and web pages. Moving to

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Peter Fraser
You havn't said what types of disks. I've had IDE disks fail that take down the entire system. I've had IDE disks fail but the system remains up and happy. I've had SCSI disks fail that have made the SCSI cards *very* unhappy (and had the system die shortly after). None of these

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Andy Hayward
On 2/1/06, Peter Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why was there a crash, I would of thought that the system should run after a disk failure. And even more to my surprise, about two days of my work disappeared. I believe, the disk drive died about 2 days before the crash. I also believe

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Andy Hayward
On 2/1/06, Greg Oster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Fraser writes: and as a result all file writes to the failed drive queued up in memory, I've never seen that behaviour... I find it hard to believe that you'd be able to queue up 2 days worth of writes without a) any reads being done

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Greg Oster
Andy Hayward writes: On 2/1/06, Greg Oster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Fraser writes: and as a result all file writes to the failed drive queued up in memory, I've never seen that behaviour... I find it hard to believe that you'd be able to queue up 2 days worth of writes

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-02-01 Thread Nick Holland
Greg Oster wrote: Peter Fraser writes: I had a disk drive fail while running RAIDframe. The system did not survive the failure. Even worse there was data loss. Ow. Welcome to the REALITY of RAID. If you rely on RAID to always work, and never go down, you Just Don't Understand. ... You

Re: RAIDframe question

2006-01-31 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:19:58AM -0500, Peter wrote: raid0: Device already configured! ioctl (RAIDFRAME_CONFIGURE) failed Can anyone lend a hand in this important matter? Let me guess (since you didn't post any configuration): you enabled RAID-autoconfiguration by the kernel *and* you