Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Lars Noodén
Thanks. Paul de Weerd wrote: ... Zombies are part of unix, you *need* them in cases. Leaving them dangling (for too long) is not good of course, clean-up is required. That's what's happening. I see that one work-around would be to have cron periodically send a kill signal to the parent. But

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread James Hartley
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or what are the major reasons 4.3 is going to still use 1.3x? Licensing.

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
Looking ahead, what is the timeline for moving to Apache2? Likely never, unless they decide to change their license. Or what are the major reasons 4.3 is going to still use 1.3x? apache2 is not free enough.

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Henning Brauer
* Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-12 10:36]: Looking ahead, what is the timeline for moving to Apache2? Likely never, unless they decide to change their license. even then... I don't see any advatages in apache2, but lots of disadvantages and a gigantic design fault. No, not one,

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On 3/12/08, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking ahead, what is the timeline for moving to Apache2? Or what are the major reasons 4.3 is going to still use 1.3x? Take a look at http://nginx.net/ BSD license, seems to work, but I don't know about its security profile. I'm sure it's

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 08:39:07AM -0500, Gregg Reynolds wrote: On 3/12/08, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking ahead, what is the timeline for moving to Apache2? Or what are the major reasons 4.3 is going to still use 1.3x? Take a look at http://nginx.net/ BSD license, seems

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Lars Noodén
Theo de Raadt wrote: apache2 is not free enough. Ok. There were some additional reasons mentioned, but licensing is enough on its own. I found the old announcement now that I know what to look for: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2004-06/0448.html Apache 1.3.29 is decent

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
Ok. There were some additional reasons mentioned, but licensing is enough on its own. I found the old announcement now that I know what to look for: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2004-06/0448.html Apache 1.3.29 is decent enough and has the functionality, name brand

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Pete Vickers
If you want to serve http content via IPv6, then perhaps you can run httpd on your (IPv4) loopback interface, and have relayd listen on your public IPv6 interface, and forward requests over IPv4 to it ? /Pete On 12 Mar 2008, at 4:22 PM, Lars Noodin wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: apache2 is not

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra
Op Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:05:01 +0100 schreef Pete Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want to serve http content via IPv6, then perhaps you can run httpd on your (IPv4) loopback interface, and have relayd listen on your public IPv6 interface, and forward requests over IPv4 to it ? And then what

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Steve Shockley
Lars NoodC)n wrote: Would something like this be appropriate at the tail end of the httpd man page for v 1.3.29? Due to licensing changes, the version of Apache shipped with OpenBSD will stay at version 1.3.29. Bugfixes will be provided, but no further updates.

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread bofh
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fork does not seem like a good return on investment, so v 1.3.29 will probably go away sooner than later once the Apache Foundation drops maintenance on the 1.3 series. I'm just curious what is in 2.x that you

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-03-12, Pete Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to serve http content via IPv6, then perhaps you can run httpd on your (IPv4) loopback interface, and have relayd listen on your public IPv6 interface, and forward requests over IPv4 to it ? Here's a better way: test the diffs at

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Jonathan Weiss
bofh wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fork does not seem like a good return on investment, so v 1.3.29 will probably go away sooner than later once the Apache Foundation drops maintenance on the 1.3 series. I'm just curious what is in 2.x that

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Tim Donahue
Quoting Jonathan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bofh wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fork does not seem like a good return on investment, so v 1.3.29 will probably go away sooner than later once the Apache Foundation drops maintenance on the 1.3

IPv6 web servers (was Re: zombies - solved)

2008-03-12 Thread Lars Noodén
Markus Lude wrote: mbalmer@ posted a diff for IPv6 support for the base apache back last december: see http://mini.vnode.ch/ Excellent. What, in general, are the plans? (Any answer is fine.) Knowing more reduces the unnecessary questions, experiments and speculations that get in the way. My

Re: zombies - solved

2008-03-12 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:19:18PM -0400, bofh wrote: | A fork does not seem like a good return on investment, so v 1.3.29 will | probably go away sooner than later once the Apache Foundation drops | maintenance on the 1.3 series. | | | I'm just curious what is in 2.x that you need, that