Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Greg, the previous rule existed since 2009 and I never liked it. It is not a special case in Garmin software but a workaround to fix improper tagging. I'd be happy to remove the new rule completely. If I got that right only Minko wants it. See again

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Greg Troxel
I think part of the problem is that railway=abandonded is not a statement either way about whether it is reasonably physically traversable on foot whether there is any right of access so I guess I don't see why a way with railway=abandonded and no highway tags should be presumed routable in

[mkgmap-dev] Commit r4429: Default style: Use railway=abandoned only as routable way when certain criterias match

2020-01-21 Thread svn commit
Version mkgmap-r4429 was committed by gerd on Tue, 21 Jan 2020 Default style: Use railway=abandoned only as routable way when certain criterias match http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/revision.php?repname=mkgmap=4429 ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread AnkEric
Just for the sake of argument: I don't like [access=no]. It's suggesting [access=no] is "default" access (which it's not). Next step is to add the Exceptions: [bicycle=yes], [foot=yes]. Double denial, Conflicting information, Contradictio in terminis. Also wondering: when is [access=no] - ever -

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Ticker, you are right, that's a good point. Gerd Von: mkgmap-dev im Auftrag von Ticker Berkin Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 13:18 An: Development list for mkgmap Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned Hi The

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Ticker Berkin
Hi The advantages of my rule is that it doesn't create a routable line if there is no need for it and that it can become a footway or cycleway depending on the tags. Gerd's rule would create routable track then disable all access modes. These are chosen as the start/end point of a route if

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi, @Bernhard: adding "access=no" doesn't make a way unroutable when the way has e.g. vehicle=yes or foot=yes. It just changes the default access which is assumed for highway=*. See also what happens in inc/access. Reg. Tickers Rule: I don't like it because it is more complex and somehow

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Ticker Berkin
Hi Gerd rule should be OK with the addition clause of & highway!=*, but is there any reason not to have what I suggested. Ticker On Tue, 2020-01-21 at 11:36 +0100, Bernhard Hiller wrote: > Hi Gerd, > of course, {deletealltags} is a different action: it removes the way > completely. "{add

Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik TYP file changes

2020-01-21 Thread Ticker Berkin
Hi Gerd >From experimenting with one of my Garmins (can't remember which one), if it couldn't find a label for the correct language, it just picked the first one in the label area for the object, regardless of the language. This seemed to be the first one textually in the file from the couple of

Re: [mkgmap-dev] change handling of railway=abandoned

2020-01-21 Thread Bernhard Hiller
Hi Gerd, of course, {deletealltags} is a different action: it removes the way completely. "{add access=no}" just makes it unroutable, but leaves it visible on the map. Lte's take a look at the roads in my example (due to changes during the last couple of hours, be sure to look at last year's

Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapnik TYP file changes

2020-01-21 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Ticker, not sure if I like the idea of a default language using English. What happens when the device is set to e.g. Turkish? Doesn't Garmin provide a good default string for "Lake" in Turkish? Gerd Von: mkgmap-dev im Auftrag von Ticker Berkin

[mkgmap-dev] mapnik TYP file changes

2020-01-21 Thread Ticker Berkin
Hi all Patch attached that makes the following changes to mapnik.txt. This is held in resources/typ-files and distributed in examples/typ-files. - Add UTF-8 BOM at the start of the file, so that many text editors and mkgmap will recognise the encoding. - Add following line near start of file,