Re: [tdf-moderators] Information for spam
ah, so that's a reason for the moderator's list - to keep these off the list :-) To the designer(s) of this list: Very good thinking on your part!!! From: Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [tdf-moderators] Information for spam To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: Florian flo...@documentfoundation.org, moderators@documentfoundation.org moderators@documentfoundation.org Anne-ology, you cant block every single spammer that comes through for moderation as most likely they are using different ip addresses. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:14 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you; I hope this also includes these inane spammers who seem to think this list is open to their odd sales pitches - from web designers to those writing in some non-translatable hieroglyphics. From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:10 PM Subject: [tdf-moderators] Information for spam To: moderators@documentfoundation.org Hello, during the last hours, several list owners have received Information for spam - either due to a spam attack, or due to a misconfigured mail server on the other side. In any case, I have now blocked the host's IP in the firewall. I will share details with the hostmaster@ team Florian -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Flood of Information for$@documentfoundation.org
I too was receiving doubled messages - for a couple weeks; stopped after receiving those 8 duplicates. From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Date: Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [tdf-moderators] Flood of Information for$@ documentfoundation.org To: moderators@documentfoundation.org Hi, Donald Norwood wrote on 2014-05-18 02:15: I should add that all of the messages are arriving in doubles. The other issue seems to have passed. you mean regular mailing list messages? Can't confirm that, all good for me? Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Information for spam
Thank you; I hope this also includes these inane spammers who seem to think this list is open to their odd sales pitches - from web designers to those writing in some non-translatable hieroglyphics. From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:10 PM Subject: [tdf-moderators] Information for spam To: moderators@documentfoundation.org Hello, during the last hours, several list owners have received Information for spam - either due to a spam attack, or due to a misconfigured mail server on the other side. In any case, I have now blocked the host's IP in the firewall. I will share details with the hostmaster@ team Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior
Oops, I forgot - I'm sorry, friend. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Rogerio Luz Coelho luz.roge...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks ... but we do not speak Spanish ... we do speak Portuguese tho , so it would be Bom Dia Senhor ;) R. 2013/5/15 anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Brasil has always impressed me as filled with common-sense folks :-) [ http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/travel/countries/brazil-guide/ ] Buenos Dias, senor! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses
There's a problem with replying to a spammer; in that way you're merely acknowledging that the e-address is valid. To my way of thinking, that's a bad thing to do; isn't it better to ignore hope the spammer will give up. Also, these spammers tend to use slightly different e-addresses in order to fool the system, so rejecting one will not reject the next ones ;-( On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.comwrote: Isn't that the same thing as emailing back saying reject? On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I get the impression that if we do nothing then the message gets blocked. So if you don't like a message or think it's spam then it's fine to leave it. We are mainly trying to catch the ones that should not have been blocked in order to unblock them. Regard from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: moderators@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 14:28 Subject: Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 15:20: florian any chance you can black list this domain as this is the 3rd email today from the same company in the span of a few hrs to the mirrors list i have rejected them all but still its very annoying that they are still pushing to spam the list. let's not block individual domains. Usually, one blocks the sending server's IP, not the sender domain. Plus, moderation is all about spam filtering. Manually maintaining filter lists is a tedious tasks I really would like to avoid, because you have to regularly verify those lists (who can assure that the IP has not changed the owner to a legitimate sender in the meantime?). We do extensive spam filtering already with greylisting, blacklists, SpamAssassin the the like. The spam that gets through is the tasks moderators have to deal with. Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses
as in Mission Impossible ;-) On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.comwrote: On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject? yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days delay, the mail will be automagically destroyed :) Kind regards Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior
What's the matter with Jonathan's method? And Top-posting is the most logical method; otherwise you have to re-read what you've already read in order to see the new bit. [are bottom-posters so forgetful???] HOW can you condemn Jonathan's behaviour ??? On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 17:58 +0200: that is a very valid question. I appreciate your energy you spend here, but can you please decrease the amount of mail you write to tdf-moderators@? A message like that is a very valid question adds no value; I am sure somebody with the plan here (like Florian) will answer regardless of this. Also - please notice that top-posting is very unwelcome in the mailing lists. I am sure you do this because gmail hides the context for you - but consider the people who are not using gmail. Just click the [...] in the gmail interface to see how the mails of the others look, and compare to your own mails - answers at the top (the top-posting) is wrong an mailing lists, and moderators should be the first people who discourage that. So if you want to be a moderator, I you first should improve your mailing list behavior yourself - can you do that? If you continue to use gmail, start by clicking the [...] in the reply input box, type the message _under_ the context you are referring to, and _delete_ everything what is not relevant. You will save tremendous amount of time of the readers of your messages. Thank you, Kendy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior
I agree. And I will continue to be logical, using common sense. And I will continue to defend those who are unfairly attacked; even if it means being attacked myself. I've always followed this advice; I see no reason to cease now, On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Anne, what the bottom posters want is to make it awkward for people. They don't want you to just reply to the message. You have to edit out the bits that in your opinion are not relevant anymore so that their message becomes your interpretation of what they might have been trying to say. Then you answer the message you think they wanted ignoring anything they might have actually said. It means that there is no way to show context without going back to an earlier copy of the posting. Notice that the Netiquette guide is from several decades ago, it's pre-hand-helds, pre-tablets, even pre-mobile-phones. It's deeply routed in ancient technology and old ways of doing things from an era that has long since gone. Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: moderators@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 18:35 Subject: Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior Hi, anne-ology wrote on 2013-05-09 19:18: What's the matter with Jonathan's method? And Top-posting is the most logical method; otherwise you have to re-read what you've already read in order to see the new bit. [are bottom-posters so forgetful???] HOW can you condemn Jonathan's behaviour ??? please read this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette Thanks, Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
