better. These sites filter our mails
for no reason, and their postmasters are anything but responsive.
(Can someone tell me some French curse words I can send those folks, so
they finally do their damn job? ;)
I can't make any promises, but... maybe it improves things.
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, then I'll cancel the gmail registration.
moderator address now change, except for moderators@ list, because there
you are no moderator :)
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not say in public.
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, but I'm hesitant because I never had
problems with him... what's the issue exactly?
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across the community.
Media Contacts
Florian Effenberger (Germany)
Landline phone: +49 8341 99660880
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Olivier Hallot (Brazil)
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Charles H. Schulz
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knowing that these are public mailing lists
3. It's spam
We should not be judging the content, as long as case #1 does not kick
in. :-)
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global internet century, folks!) I would propose anyone
experiencing problems to use another account.
So, just in case you know when you receive complaints from users.
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reply. Did this on the fly while making the change.
Thanks to everyone for their great work!
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Hi,
Cor Nouws wrote on 2011-06-11 22.38:
Thank you, Florian for your help.
+ :-)
:-) you're welcome
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on the conference hard line connection so took a look...ta
no problem - that's perfect, I wouldn't use insecure wifis either. :)
Just didn't realize I could easily change Nabble myself. :)
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to the l10n mailing list).
Any help is greatly appreciated! Feel free to pass this information on
to your local teams as well.
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-to: list?
For scenario 1, if mlmmj does what it is supposed to, the default
reply-to header would be set to the list, but any user-created reply-to
header would be *added* to that, i.e. does not get lost like it does not.
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Problems
with protected archives. In terms of manageability, I'd prefer having
only one of these types...
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you experience any issues, please ping either the moderators
list, or the postmaster alias.
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Hi,
James Wilde wrote on 2011-11-09 06:54:
+1
we were migrating virtual machines, and this one didn't get migrated
yet. However, I wonder whether we can incorporate it in our main
website, since it's not that unused. Christian?
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Hello Valter,
Valter Mura wrote on 2011-11-09 15:56:
Could you please unsubscribe the following user from our list?
We cannot continue in this way, receiving such kind of messages.
this user is not subscribed. Maybe someone moderated the mail?
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Hi,
Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-10-29 13:23:
- We'll test it out on a general list like discuss@ to see the results.
- I will do that change as soon as you ping me that you have the posting
guidelines rewritten.
any progress on this already?
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weeks. Otherwise it becomes ridiculous ;-)
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like spam. Simply ignore it, that's IMHO the best
solution.
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a ping, then we can add an appropriate footer to the local lists.
Do *not* reply to this mail, but rather ping postmaster@ directly.
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bocks, hoping
to reduce the spam a bit. I don't need spam from people who shouldn't be
on the postmasters at all.
@admins: I don't disclose the IP ranges publically here, but feel free
to have a look at /etc/postfix/client_access.cidr for details.
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Hello,
there is a possible downtime of our servers this weekend, since we plan
to re-order the internal user IDs during our admin meeting.
We try to keep the downtime as short as possible, and are sorry for any
inconveniences that may occur.
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be
affected.
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Correction - sorry for the short notice, everything's a bit spontaneous
here :-)
We will start with the change in a few minutes. Normally, all should be
well, but just in case... be warned :-)
Florian Effenberger wrote on 2012-07-07 17:53:
it looks like tomorrow, or probably even at another
- anyone
has a feeling?
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can block it? Probably @plus.google.com, but I'm not sure.
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remove the prefix, it
might cause more problems than leaving it in ;)
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Hi,
Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-08-10 00:25:
Yes, I think it is plus.google.com
But if, not, here is what I use to receive for moderation:
I've filtered @plus.google.com now for that list. Let me know if it
works. ;-)
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it out to your
local communites and their respective mailing lists. If you need any
help, let us know.
Thanks for your support!
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notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm
somehow sitting between two chairs here.
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and ranting,
and having severe issues due to the mail clients they use.
On other lists, I either see not that many complaints, or people even in
favor of the change (like mirrors@).
Do you share that feeling and would support the above proposal?
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chairs. I bet if I announced it before, the same would have happened
this time, and honestly, I am tired of that...
If the LO lists would have started with that setting to begin with,
there wouldn't be loud complaining now.
That's indeed a valid argument.
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for spamming, or the account was hacked - do you recall if
that account already sent non-spammy messages before?
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You are the moderator of the nl lists, so you can charge best. If you
give me a quick ok, I will make the change immediately.
(And if I may give an advice: do the same for
us...@global.libreoffice.org ;-) )
Let's wait what the moderators of this list say :)
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users@libreoffice? I tend to make the change
back as well, but then, so far no moderator of that list really stood up...
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Hi,
Alin Crețu wrote on 2012-08-31 17:55:
The scheduled maintenance is completed.
All services are back online and should be functioning within normal
parameters.
Alin, thank you very much, great job!
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Happy hacking,
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you some comfort.
Find my documentation at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Floeff/Thunderbird/
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. It
might make sense to share the work.
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Hi Sigrid,
Sigrid Carrera wrote on 2013-02-23 00:33:
When ever I want to allow a post from a non-subscribed writer to any
of the mailinglists I am moderating, I always get a mlmmj notification
back, telling me that the post was denied to the mailinglist. However,
the post, that I allowed still
Hi,
Sigrid Carrera wrote on 2013-02-23 11:55:
But, and I think, that is strange, this also happens to me for the
accessibility list, where I am the only moderator. For example, there
was an email from Caolan McNamara to this list. He's not subscribed,
so I wanted to let his mail go through. I
Hello,
quite a while ago, we have renamed the @libreoffice.org mailing lists to
@global.libreoffice.org for technical reasons. I'd now like to do the
same for the @documentfoundation.org mailing lists, namely
- announce
- board-discuss
- discuss
- mirrors
Hi,
Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2013-02-23 19:26:
I don't care as long as the list-IDs don't change (i.e.
mail-archive.com other archival systems can deal with it without
fiddling around and mail-filters work without changing them (when they
were setup correctly to begin with :-)))
subject
Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-02-23 19:27:
subject prefixes will not change, but list-ID will change...
Addendum: For GMANE, Mail-Archive, Nabble and others, we will change the
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Hello,
to replace the second old machine, bilbo, I have started with the mail
server migration today. Some mailboxes and forwarders already reside on
the new machine, the mailing lists and some other accounts are yet to be
transferred to the various servers.
In case you experience some
Hi Italo,
Italo Vignoli wrote on 2013-03-05 17:15:
I am using SMTP at bilbo to send press releases, so you should provide
me with an alternative one
indeed, good point. How many recipients in a batch is it roughly you
send to? (You can reply in private if you want.)
Maybe using jpberlin.de
Hallo Gerald,
Gerald Schrempf, BSc. wrote on 2013-03-09 14:59:
Ich hatte die letzten 3-4 Wochen einige Emails an die discuss-Liste von
LibreOffice geschrieben und meine Signatur am Ende der Emails
mitgesendet. Wäre es möglich, die Signatur der 6-8 Emails aus dem
öffentlichen Archiv zu
TL;DR: Same stuff as usual. Happy weekend.
Hi,
due to another disk replacement (yep...) we have to take bilbo, the
download and mailing list server offline for a few minutes. Hope it'll
be back soon.
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Hello,
you are probably as annoyed as I am by these kind of e-mails, but bilbo
needs another downtime due to a disk replacement. This time, it's not
the SSD dying again, but the regular SATA disk. After a few years of
service, this is rather normal, so
today, 1400 UTC, which is in
Hello,
I've just enabled a new mailing list manager feature: List owners can
now get a list of the subscribers directly, without manual intervention
needed from infra. ;-)
To do so, you need to send from the address that is configured as list
owner/moderator an e-mail to
Hello,
finally, I spent the day with preparing the update for our mailing list
manager software, mlmmj, on our shiny new server.
The update to the new version will bring a few benefits:
- the localization of the list texts (like for subscribing and
unsubscribing), where the LibreOffice
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Hello,
at least if I did everything right ;) the new mailing list software
(respectively its new version) is now deployed for all lists.
I have enables DKIM signing of the mails, and the mailing lists are now
on bilbo2, our new server, so hopefully should not be affected by any
downtime
Hello,
at the moment, we are looking for volunteers who could help moderate
this mailing list.
If you are interested, the only requirement is that you are subscribed
to the list yourself and read its mails in a somehow timely manner, but
that's about it.
Moderation means dealing with
Hello,
in theory, the new mailing list manager software should be able to
directly post through GMANE postings.
Marc, I recall you are using GMANE. ;-) Mind to give it a try on the
test list without subscribing to it first? If you are
authorized/verified at GMANE, you should be able to post
Hi,
Marc Paré wrote on 2013-05-04 17:11:
Ahem ... OK, but I can't find the coordinates for the test list ... or
are my glasses too foggy? :-)
the link was in the email :-)
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.test
Florian
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Marc Paré wrote on 2013-05-04 20:12:
Oops and Ahem #2 ... OK, I had a very long sleepless night (or at
least that is the reason I'm going with) .. lol. I hadn't seen the
test group on GMane.
Done ... let me know if it comes through on the mailing list.
hm... you are sure you sent this?
Hello,
Sigrid Carrera wrote on 2013-05-06 13:51:
ist das etwas, worüber ich mir Sorgen machen muss? Oder kommt diese Mail
einfach, wenn die betroffene Originalmail schon von einem anderen Moderator
autorisiert wurde?
thanks for the information, Sigrid! I must confess I have no idea why
these
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Hi,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-07 17:38:
That is true :) what would you all recommend in terms of recieving a
message in another language would it be best practice to run it through
google translate?
I usually reply in English, telling that this list is in another
language, and point
Hi,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-07 19:02:
I was just thinking in the other email to florians response. I agree that
we reply to them pointing in them in the right direction but is there
somewhere with a list of all the NL mailing lists. Also im not sure if
there would be any guidelines
Hi,
Marc Paré wrote on 2013-05-08 03:38:
I think people may be confused as to what you mean by confirming. Do you
mean to say to send an email from Gmane without being subscribed to the
list OR do you mean to say to confirm that the post I did on Gmane
reached them on the test mailing list?
Hi,
I've changed the subject to reflect the changed message topic.
Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-08 21:57:
Hi:)
Ahah, could we have a special list for Base? Not for any of the other
modules/apps because they are not so desperately in need of cross-list
collaboration in order to get some
Hi Sophie,
Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-05-09 15:10:
I was adapting my moderation folder and realized that I might be the
only one moderating the Nabble gateway now that Drew is away for a
while, or is there anybody else with me? this is not a charge, there is
very few to do, but more for the
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 15:20:
florian any chance you can black list this domain as this is the 3rd email
today from the same company in the span of a few hrs to the mirrors list i
have rejected them all but still its very annoying that they are still
pushing to spam
Tom,
Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-09 20:26:
Notice that the Netiquette guide is from several decades ago, it's
pre-hand-helds, pre-tablets, even pre-mobile-phones. It's deeply routed in
ancient technology and old ways of doing things from an era that has long since
gone.
this Netiquette is
Hi Anne,
anne-ology wrote on 2013-05-14 18:31:
... as to why you would reject this;
have you rejected all my e-messages?
Just curiously wondering;
and sending my deepest apologies if I've somehow offended you,
no, nobody has rejected you. ;-) What
Hi,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-16 11:51:
Let me know if there is anythign i can do to help test this issue out any
further.
thanks - I'll monitor the issue. I have the gut feeling that there are
some bugs in the new mlmmj release, but so far, I didn't see any pattern.
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during the last days, we have seen a huge amount of discussions, mostly
offtopic. I'd like to remind everyone about the purpose of this mailing
list - discussion amongst list moderators for topics specifically
concerning list moderation, nothing else.
I have seen several people
Hi Sophie,
Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-05-17 10:23:
Some subscribers of the users@fr list seems to have issues (since about
3 weeks) with some messages sent by Mlmmj, all about messages from the
list that can't be delivered. My translation: [Some messages can't be
delivered. If you see this
Hello,
as the migration to mlmmj is done, and I need to evaluate some other
topics (e.g. a possible connection between Google+ and a mailing list),
I have unsubscribed all of you as moderators as well as subscribers from
the test@ mailing list, so I don't spam you with my work. ;-)
Of
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Hi,
Donald Norwood wrote on 2013-10-25 15:22:
I (think) I recall some discussion on why filtering for spam on the
server side was impractical but cannot find the threads relating to it.
I do have a question in that same vein towards a particular email
received for the mirrors list that
Hi,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-10-26 13:40:
Has a bug been filed upstream with mlmmj?
not yet, as I lack more details to file a proper bug report so far.
Florian
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Hi Sophie,
Sophie wrote on 2013-12-09 19:07:
Since yesterday one member of the FR project sees all his message
rejected since two days. Here is one of the error message he received:
---
This is the mail system at host msfrf2117.sfr.fr.
it seems
Hi,
Sophie wrote on 2013-12-09 19:55:
Thank you very much for your fast answer. I will see with if he can join
his ISP to solve that.
that's clearly best. :-) Given the amount of spam we're exposed to, I'm
not so eager to relax those filter rules... :)
Florian
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Hi,
Surya wrote on 2014-01-28 04:49:
Please add me to the users mailing list ( English version -
us...@global.libreoffice.org ) so that I can start right away.
if you were not subscribed to that list before, I propose you read it
for about a month or so, to see how it goes, who posts and
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Hello,
Takeshi Abe wrote on 2014-02-05 02:11:
annou...@ja.libreoffice.org
seems to be proceeded to moderation. That is, our moderators
at the mailing list has missed its moderation requests for the
Japanese translation of the press release of LibreOffice 4.2.
Today I have retried sending the
Hi,
Takeshi Abe wrote on 2014-02-05 10:19:
Thank you very much for investigating the mailing list's status.
Now I have sent the message in problem to your address.
it was received here with lots of weird (ASCII) characters, so it looks
like the encoding is wrong, which might have made the
Hi,
Takeshi Abe wrote on 2014-02-06 02:22:
[I resent this mail for sharing the information with moderators.]
good idea, indeed! :-)
Resending the announce to annou...@ja.libreoffice.org, now we got
a moderation request successfully.
Thank you again for your time.
Wonderful, thanks a lot
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