Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Robin Berjon
At 23:19 03/12/1999 +0200, Stas Bekman wrote: There are a few logos on the site, and we can add some more (I don't know if we would manage to agree on one, though it'd give a stronger sense of "brand"). Right. This talk is about a commercial success. The /perl.apache.org/logos/mod_perl.gif

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-04 Thread Robin Berjon
At 01:12 04/12/1999 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote: Talking about "let's do something" topics on the mod_perl list is a waste of time, unfortunately... The motto of this list regarding new things is "think it, implement it and give it"... This is somewhat too straightforward, Stas. Look - I only

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Robin Berjon
At 18:04 03/12/1999 -0600, Jason Bodnar wrote: You really can't compare mod_perl to ASP or JSP, though, IMHO. Compare those two technologies to Embperl or ePerl or Apache::ASP. That's true. And then compare mod_perl handlers with ISAPI extensions and filters. Mod_perl isn't that hard after all

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-04 Thread Robin Berjon
At 01:46 04/12/1999 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote: "The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly Associates." So it is either a question of getting O'Reilly's authorization, or abandonning the eagle idea. I don't think

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Robin Berjon
At 18:29 04/12/1999 +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: Um... how about a mythical beast with the head of an eagle and the body of a camel ? Or a feather made of camel fur... :) .Robin James Joyce -- an essentially private man who wished his total indifference to public notice to be universally

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread G.W. Haywood
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: I was thinking about hedgehog as one that protected from everything, exactly like mod_perl... Now why didn't _I_ think of that? 73 Ged.

Apache::Session::DBIStore and Sybase

1999-12-04 Thread Vladimir Ivaschenko
Hello, I've been trying to make Apache::Session::DBIStore (ver 1.04) work with Sybase. Unfortunately Sybase does not permit PREPARE statements to have IMAGE/TEXT datatypes (or at least I haven't found a way to make it work yet) and I get an error. Maybe someone is aware of solution to the

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Salve J. Nilsen
Suddenly, Michael Dearman uttered: "G.W. Haywood" wrote: How about ``Eagle''? Exactly what I was just thinking. Apache Stronghold Apache Eagle Logo? Eagle floating over the feather? Or, the feather floating under the Eagle. An Eagle Feather. Maybe an eagle with a single

RE: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

1999-12-04 Thread Gerald Richter
Robin and Matt are steadily working on a new face for the site. Meanwhile Baiju Thakkar, the guy behind perlmonth.com and linuxmonth.com, has registered the no-one-understand-how-not-yet-registered modperl.org domain. And he came up with an idea that, it's more natural for mod_perl to be

RE: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

1999-12-04 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi all, On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Gerald Richter wrote: I don't see any benefit on having so a set of hostnames/subdomains over using subdirectories, execpt that subdomains harder to administer (they have to go into the dns) There may possibly be a benefit if traffic were high. The different

RE: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

1999-12-04 Thread Gerald Richter
I don't see any benefit on having so a set of hostnames/subdomains over using subdirectories, execpt that subdomains harder to administer (they have to go into the dns) There may possibly be a benefit if traffic were high. The different domain names could more easily be pointed to

Re: Apache::Session::DBIStore and Sybase

1999-12-04 Thread Mark D. Landry
Vladimir Ivaschenko wrote: Hello, I've been trying to make Apache::Session::DBIStore (ver 1.04) work with Sybase. Unfortunately Sybase does not permit PREPARE statements to have IMAGE/TEXT datatypes (or at least I haven't found a way to make it work yet) and I get an error. What error

Re: Apache::Session::DBIStore and Sybase

1999-12-04 Thread Vladimir Ivaschenko
Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 09:34:07AM -0500 Mark D. Landry ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÐÏ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ Re: Apache::Session::DBIStore and Sybase Sybase. Unfortunately Sybase does not permit PREPARE statements to have IMAGE/TEXT datatypes (or at least I haven't found a way to make it work yet) and I get an error. What

RE: image problem..

1999-12-04 Thread Gerald Richter
I got a strange problem: I succeed install and run embperl on my machine which everything works fine but I could not access any image file in my /var/www/htdocs/embperl_test or its sub-directories. I had three gif files there (blank.gif, minus.gif, plus.gif), but they could not be shown in

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 03 Dec 1999, Gidon Wise wrote: Hello Everybody, I believe it is true. We could have more more mod_perl programmers. I think that the biggest problem/opportunity that mod_perl has in terms of proliferation amongst programmers/users is that Hosts currently do not provide mod_perl on

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-04 Thread Stas Bekman
I have browsed my graphic libraries and put some eagles and other birds at: http://www.jazzvalley.com/modperl/symbols/index.html I am not a graphist, but those willing to make a sketch of a logo (assuming there is an eagle on it) may use some of that stuff. I loved the drawings as they

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-04 Thread Jay J
- Original Message - From: "Stas Bekman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Victor Zamouline" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Logo / brand I have browsed my graphic libraries and put some eagles and other birds at:

Re: Failed to set ProxyReceiveBufferSize

1999-12-04 Thread Stas Bekman
"OB" == Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OB This message is for every proxied request. OB Does anybody knows what does it means ? OB In proxy config I have OB ProxyReceiveBufferSize 1048576 OB Restarting proxy server doesn't helps. OB btw, anybody know what is an optimal size of

Re: mod_perl on Solaris 7

1999-12-04 Thread Chris Nielsen
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Tom Mornini wrote: What are current opinions of Apache/mod_perl on Solaris 7? A company that I am consulting for has different opinions on this subject than I have. I have had no trouble making and operating various front-end/back-end combinations with no difficulty

Re: Failed to set ProxyReceiveBufferSize

1999-12-04 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 19:52:07 +0200 (IST) From: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mod_perl list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Failed to set ProxyReceiveBufferSize "OB" == Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: Name: overview

1999-12-04 Thread James G Smith
"Victor Zamouline" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6) Eagle with a single red-blue-yellow feather in its wing, proposed by Salve Nilsen I think I've kept up with the thread, but I may have missed a post or two. If I'm repeating, please forgive me. I like this idea, but I'm seeing the Eagle from the

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-04 Thread Victor Zamouline
Eagle on top of camel and the Apache feather somewhere in a middle... probably too complicated for a small scaled logo... I am afraid, yes. We have not yet reached any opinion on whether the logo should represent a "bridge" or an "independent product". In the case of an "independent product", I

RE: moperl mirror sites (was: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org)

1999-12-04 Thread Gerald Richter
It's no big deal to administer a small zone like this. Yes, of course, but directing the traffic to the Apache mirrors all over the world would be even better (at least from my point of view) I have added a list of the modperl mirrors, have a look at perl.apache.org Gerald

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Gunther Birznieks
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jason Bodnar wrote: On 03-Dec-99 Gunther Birznieks wrote: I think mod_perl is sufficiently hard that even as more people learn how to do the simple stuff, mod_perl will still be 'difficult' enough. I don't think it is like Java or Perl where the stratification is

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread John White
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 11:15:53PM +0200, Stas Bekman wrote: Does anybody see a niche for a new web-hosting company specializing in mode_perl and other goodies, rather than the generic "package" ? Matt ? That could ease the management problem of "we agree mod_perl is great, but our hoster

Fix for Redhat(?) bug in mod_perl install

1999-12-04 Thread Autarch
I don't remember if this has been discussed before but anyway. If you're running Redhat 6.0 (and maybe 6.1?) there may be some weirdness when you try to install modperl. Basically, when you go to run make on apache, it gives it some -L or -I flags that include libgdbm, because your Perl was

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Bill Desjardins
Or even the head of a camel on an eagles body? I guess you could call it an Eamel ;-) my $.02 Bill === Bill Desjardinshttp://www.carracing.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel: 305.205.8644 FREE Homepages for Racers and Race Tracks!! On Sat, 4 Dec

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Joseph R. Junkin
John White wrote: On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 11:15:53PM +0200, Stas Bekman wrote: Does anybody see a niche for a new web-hosting company specializing in mode_perl and other goodies, rather than the generic "package" ? Matt ? That could ease the management problem of "we agree mod_perl is

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Victor Zamouline
Gunther Birznieks wrote: You don't have to be top 15th percentile VB or top 15th percentile Java to write ASPs or Servlets respectively. Although for servlets, I would say top 50th at least if you don't want a completely crappy OO servlet architecture. I have organized a series of

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Victor Zamouline wrote: [...] Right. This talk is about a commercial success. The /perl.apache.org/logos/mod_perl.gif logo represents a bridge between two products [...] But that is what it is. A very cool bridge indeed, but a bridge. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen -

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-04 Thread Michael Dearman
Foolishness alert/Newbie approaches. Hate that this thread died. Was following it to get some insights into the nether regions. I read some doc about DBI or Apache/DBI pinging or doing some kind of trace on the other when a db connection was attempted. I thought it made the point that

Re: Name: overview

1999-12-04 Thread Jason Bodnar
Perhaps, just maybe, it should be Doug's decision whether mod_perl needs a name change? At 05:25 PM 12/4/99 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote: Let me overview the propositions that have been made: 1) Eagle, proposed by Ged Haywood. Copyrighted by O'Reilly, but it looks like this problem can be

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Ken Williams
I'd rather see a camel with wings. Seems like an eagle without wings isn't much of an eagle, and a camel without a hump isn't much of a camel. Just like mod_perl gives you all the power of Apache Perl together? Yeah, I'm reaching. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Desjardins) wrote: Or even the head

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-04 Thread David Emery
At 20:51 +0100 99.12.4, Victor Zamouline wrote: Eagle on top of camel and the Apache feather somewhere in a middle... probably too complicated for a small scaled logo... I am afraid, yes. We have not yet reached any opinion on whether the logo should represent a "bridge" or an

Re: Logo / Brand

1999-12-04 Thread Jay J
- Original Message - From: "Ken Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bill Desjardins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 11:31 PM Subject: Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up... Ken wrote: I'd rather see a camel with wings. Seems like an eagle

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-04 Thread Ruben Safir
And Lincons roots?

Re: Failed to set ProxyReceiveBufferSize

1999-12-04 Thread Stas Bekman
"OB" == Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OB This message is for every proxied request. OB Does anybody knows what does it means ? OB In proxy config I have OB ProxyReceiveBufferSize 1048576 OB Restarting proxy server doesn't helps. OB btw, anybody know what is an