Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi all, On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: The :: are stripped on the fly, since these cannot be used in index, so when you look for Foo::Bar you are actually looking for 'Foo Bar'. That's a limitation of swish-e - you can configure it to index characters like $, !, ... as part of

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: Another thing that was configured in is that words have to be at least 3 characters long, which seems reasonable, and also there's some stopwords that don't get indexed, as they're too common. This list of stopwords is built by hand - so far it only

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New Module (was Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar))

2000-05-19 Thread Francesc Guasch
I have my own module for doing this job, sorry I missed many posts of this thread but here is what I do: - The target is automatically : add , update, select data from a table reading data typed by the user. - I didn't want to use the Apache api, so it even can be used out of apache, so I

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: looks good... one minor issue with the stickyness of the next search feature: type "lexical file handles" in your original search. the "es" at the end

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ged Haywood wrote: Hi all, On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: The :: are stripped on the fly, since these cannot be used in index, so when you look for Foo::Bar you are actually looking for 'Foo Bar'. That's a limitation of swish-e - you can configure

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: Another thing that was configured in is that words have to be at least 3 characters long, which seems reasonable, and also there's some stopwords that don't get indexed, as they're too common. This list

RE: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Gerald Richter
That would be nice to see. I'm afraid I'll continue on working on guide. So if there anyone with a few free minutes on his hands, he/she might like to contribute something back to community ;) Ideally, when we complete the tuning of the search engine, we will be able to have the whole

RE: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
That would be nice to see. I'm afraid I'll continue on working on guide. So if there anyone with a few free minutes on his hands, he/she might like to contribute something back to community ;) Ideally, when we complete the tuning of the search engine, we will be able to have the whole

Re: passing Apache::File to XS code that expects FILE *?

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: "DM" == Doug MacEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DM On Wed, 17 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: Well, this may be true, but if you load IO::File before startup then it's not too big a deal... DM but it still adds a great deal of bloat to the

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
i do think that doug's separation of responsibilities into classes is the right one. your widget toolkit probably shouldn't be named Apache::HTML tho, unless it's actually using the apache api in some fashion. one reason i was thinking Apache::HTML is so we can use ap_pool for allocations.

Re: writing code that works on machines with or without mod_perl

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Kenneth Lee wrote: modperlers, does it make sense if i put some mod_perl specific codes inside an eval() so that the code runs on machines that have or haven't mod_perl installed? eval 'MOD_PERL_CODE' if

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: C seems like serious overkill for something to simply generate plain text output. How slow is making a string in perl compared to doing it in C? I can't imagine there's to much of a difference. more like Perl is serious overkill :) SV's are BIG, notice

Re: Want to work at a Game company?

2000-05-19 Thread raptor
On Thu, 18 May 2000, ___cliff rayman___ wrote: legitimate job offers from a reputable company are never spam. especially if your salary is not more than ~$150-$200 per month :"( sorry for the off-topic iVAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, brian moseley wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: .= concatenation is way faster i don't have any results to back up my claim. therefore, my words are eaten :) i was convinced tho, even way back before you came to cp. i wonder what convinced me!

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote: eg I think there was a thread on this list way back about OO method calls versus direct package references... and people said that OO method calls have a lot of overhead, but I think in later versions of Perl, OO method call paths are

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread raptor
hi, very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") this under KDE viewer, now will try netscape ...!!

Re: Prb: Apache::DB plus Perl 5.6 doesn't break

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
i hadn't tried Apache::DB with newer Perl since 5.005_6x-ish, there was a fix that went into version 0.06 for that, are you using 0.06? i am able to set breakpoints no problem with 5.6.0 (perl-current, actually). i would suggest stripping back your Perl config to something simple (i tested with

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, raptor wrote: hi, very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") this under KDE viewer, now will try netscape ...!! it's not the client -- it's a bug. This happened after Randy has made

Re: Prb: Apache::DB plus Perl 5.6 doesn't break

2000-05-19 Thread Jeremy Howard
i am able to set breakpoints no problem with 5.6.0 (perl-current, actually). i would suggest stripping back your Perl config to something simple (i tested with b Apache::Status::handler) and make sure require Apache::DB/Apache::DB-init is the first piece of Perl code to run. Thanks

Re: Prb: Apache::DB plus Perl 5.6 doesn't break

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Jeremy Howard wrote: Thanks heaps, Doug--moving require Apache::DB/Apache::DB-init to the top fixed it! kool! Previously I had 'use Apache' 1st, which worked fine under the "old" version... It's funny the things that change between versions, isn't it? In fact,

PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread David Veatch
Greetings, [i sent this once, but think it got hung up at the mail server... my apologies if this already went through] I've run into some interesting behaviors with the PerlFreshRestart directive. If I understand correctly, this directive is supposed to force modules to reload when you

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Randy Kobes
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2000, raptor wrote: hi, very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") this under KDE viewer, now will try netscape ...!! it's not the client --

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Autarch
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: C seems like serious overkill for something to simply generate plain text output. How slow is making a string in perl compared to doing it in C? I can't imagine there's to much of a difference. more like Perl is serious overkill :) SV's

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Autarch wrote: Well, my point was that the decision to code something in C should be done because it offers an overwhelming (orders of magnitude) improvement, preferably on more than one front (speed, memory, ease of maintenance (haha) ). small savings here and there

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: personally, i like to have generic things written in c, things that won't change much or at all after they are first implemented (not including bug shaking). e.g. Apache::Request. both c and Perl are great languages and blend very well together.

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Vivek Khera
"MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with MS functions - use templates or stylesheets. Templates (especially ones that let you iterate over arrays) are the way to go, in my book, for generating regular HTML.

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Geoffrey Young
-Original Message- From: David Veatch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem Greetings, [i sent this once, but think it got hung up at the mail server... my apologies if this already

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Honza Pazdziora
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 06:08:41PM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with functions - use templates or stylesheets. At the very moment, I have a problem to find arguments to persuate my colleagues to accept this vision. Do you

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread David Veatch
At 01:22 PM 5/19/00 -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: I think the title says it best: http://perl.apache.org/guide/troubleshooting.html#Evil_things_might_happen _when_us Sweet. Thanks. So the problem is probably any number of weak module issues. That's enough for me right now... turning it off

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Drew Taylor
Matt, All I'm looking for is the fastest way to print sticky form elements. I already use HTML::Template for the page templating engine (and it works very well!). I need to take a look at CGI v.3 beta to see if it answers some of my concerns about memory usage. Matt Sergeant wrote: On Fri,

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
At 01:22 PM 5/19/00 -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: I think the title says it best: http://perl.apache.org/guide/troubleshooting.html#Evil_things_might_happen _when_us Sweet. Thanks. So the problem is probably any number of weak module issues. That's enough for me right now... turning

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Vivek Khera
"SB" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SB Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I SB thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with SB DSO? DSO works great for me now with the fixes in place of mod_perl 1.23. However, note that

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with DSO? If I remember correctly the problem was of broken internal pointers when the DSO code was reloaded.

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with DSO? If I remember correctly the problem was of

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: Damn - forgot smiley. Sorry :-) doh. your reponse combined with my jetlag == foncusion :-)

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Kreimendahl, Chad J
I work with David... and figured you guys might like to see what version's we're running... (which is already partially explained by the 1.23 comment below) (Apache) Server Version: Stronghold/2.4.2 Apache/1.3.6 C2NetEU/2410 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 ApacheJServ/1.0 (Perl) Summary of my perl5 (5.0

question - can asp be run as cgi???

2000-05-19 Thread Charles Dalsass
Hey dudes, new poster here. I've got a project which the client has said 'no mod perl' but only cgi and perl. They've got a really powerful machine, but are 'afraid' of using mod_perl (because of memory issues, administration etc). Performance should not be an issue. I also have an employee who

[ANNOUNCE] AxKit 0.65

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
This release of AxKit adds XSP support. XSP is a script embedded XML language that is language and output agnostic. All big words, translated to: You can write XSP pages in Perl, Java or Javascript (*). http://xml.sergeant.org/axkit/ Details on XSP: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xsp.html

Re: question - can asp be run as cgi???

2000-05-19 Thread Joshua Chamas
Charles Dalsass wrote: Hey dudes, new poster here. I've got a project which the client has said 'no mod perl' but only cgi and perl. They've got a really powerful machine, but are 'afraid' of using mod_perl (because of memory issues, administration etc). Performance should not be an

Re: LARGE PERL footprint

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, David Larkin wrote: Can anyone help explain why PERL gives such a large memory footprint advise how to get around it. Running the simple script below, I get a footprint of 63 MB about 22 bytes per int. The C program only 11748 K ... 4 bytes per int

Re: LARGE PERL footprint

2000-05-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Fri, 19 May 2000, David Larkin wrote: Can anyone help explain why PERL gives such a large memory footprint advise how to get around it. Your array might be smaller if you pre-extend it to the size you need (see perldata). You could also look at some of the sneaky bit vector modules on

Re: Questions about Apache::Session

2000-05-19 Thread Bruce W. Hoylman
"Edgardo" == Edgardo Szulsztein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edgardo Then, I tried to use FileStore, and it worked Edgardo fine. However, it stores the sessions files in the /tmp Edgardo directory. How could I change the location of the sessions Edgardo file in the httpd.conf

mod_perl 1.24, nmake test causes Apache Win32 to crash.

2000-05-19 Thread Thomas
hi, I've run into some oddities.. running nmake test causes to seriously crash at "internal/table" while the same test with 1.22 passes fine. Test "internal/api" FAILS for both 1.22 / 1.24 Both are compiled with identical setups using VC6 / WinNT with the 1.3.12 / 5.00503 libs . suggestions,

Re: mod_perl 1.24, nmake test causes Apache Win32 to crash.

2000-05-19 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sat, 20 May 2000, Thomas wrote: hi, I've run into some oddities.. running nmake test causes to seriously crash at "internal/table" while the same test with 1.22 passes fine. Test "internal/api" FAILS for both 1.22 / 1.24 Both are compiled with identical setups using VC6 / WinNT

cvs commit: modperl Changes

2000-05-19 Thread cholet
cholet 00/05/19 09:01:24 Modified:.Changes Log: document the fact that I fixed what I'd just broken Revision ChangesPath 1.488 +3 -0 modperl/Changes Index: Changes === RCS file: