Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 12:02:17PM +0200, khemir nadim wrote: Now, I'm asking for someone else to do the job (I don't even know who he is) but I'd gladely help if I can, I'd definitively rate more. Which means that it won't get done. All volunteer organisations work in roughly the same way -

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Fergal Daly
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 12:05:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: All volunteer organisations work in roughly the same way - if you want to get a job done, you have to *start* it yourself. Others may well join in and help once they see that it's a good idea, but things don't get started because

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread khemir nadim
Amen. Today that work is left to the module writer, setup a web site, setup a mailling list etc ... I once wrote that it would be great to have the equivalent of sourceforge for perl module, the answer I got was use sourceforge. Hmm talk about not answering the question. The most disturbing

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread khemir nadim
Michael Peppler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I think the current rating system should be enough - only not enough people use it (for example my modules have only one or two ratings, yet they are used by a lot of people, and have been for many years). I

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:17:51PM +0200, Michael Peppler wrote: Why don't you start by rating those modules that you feel are horribly lacking with 0 stars? Part of the issue here is that cpanratings.perl.org doesn't expose the individual component ratings (Documentation, Interface,

RE: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Orton, Yves
Title: RE: CPAN Rating Personally I think the current rating system should be enough - only not enough people use it (for example my modules have only one or two ratings, yet they are used by a lot of people, and have been for many years). Well, personally ive never rated your module

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Khemir Nadim) writes: But I can't live anymore with the low quality and release process that CPAN has!!! *sigh*. Is it that time of year again? We have this discussion every six months or so. Everyone talks about it. Nobody does anything about it. Nothing gets done. Goto 1.

Re: Sub::Suspension

2004-06-16 Thread Steffen Goeldner
A. Pagaltzis wrote: If you do stick with this name, I'd suggest suspended, as suspension sounds weird. (I'm not sure this is a particularly strong reason for anything, but hey.) Thanks for your reply! I can live with Sub::Suspended. However, 'suspension' isn't uncommon (see the links below).

RE: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Peppler
On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 16:29, Orton, Yves wrote: Personally I think the current rating system should be enough - only not enough people use it (for example my modules have only one or two ratings, yet they are used by a lot of people, and have been for many years). Well, personally

RE: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Orton, Yves
Title: RE: CPAN Rating [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Khemir Nadim) writes: But I can't live anymore with the low quality and release process that CPAN has!!! *sigh*. Is it that time of year again? We have this discussion every six months or so. Everyone talks about it. Nobody does

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Andy Lester
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 04:19:26PM +0100, Orton, Yves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I think part of the problem is that those with a desire to do something about it are not really in the position to do so. What do I have to patch to change search.cpan.org, or who has to agree to changes to CPAN

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Josephes
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Mark Stosberg wrote: Another perspective: I do see signs that the current rating system is helping. After receiving several negative ratings, CGI::NeedSSL has been pulled from CPAN. What was the deal with this? I never used the module, I was just curious about what

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread darren chamberlain
* Andy Lester andy at petdance.com [2004/06/16 10:24]: On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 04:19:26PM +0100, Orton, Yves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I think part of the problem is that those with a desire to do something about it are not really in the position to do so. What do I have to patch to

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 11:41:12AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: I didn't read that as concern about permission. I've also contemplated duplicating or extending some of the functionality of search.cpan.org for internal CPAN mirrors, but I don't want to reimplement *everything*, just add

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread SilvioCVdeAlmeida
Eric Wilhelm wrote: [ snip ] --Eric -- Because understanding simplicity is complicated. --Eric Raymond That's the point!!! Well, I need some funcionality, go to CPAN, browse by category, download the best choice(s), and that's all! I don't bother

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Fergal Daly
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 06:39:22PM -0300, SilvioCVdeAlmeida wrote: Let's write it better: 1. FORBID any module without a meaningful readme with all its (possibly recursive) dependencies, its pod and any other relevant information inside. Having the dependencies easily visible is a good idea

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# The following was supposedly scribed by # SilvioCVdeAlmeida # on Wednesday 16 June 2004 04:39 pm: FORBID any module without a meaningful readme with all its (possibly recursive) dependencies, its pod and any other relevant information inside. I don't think it is in the spirit of CPAN to FORBID

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-16 Thread Ken Williams
On Jun 16, 2004, at 4:39 PM, SilvioCVdeAlmeida wrote: SilvioCVdeAlmeida wrote: Two ideas: 1. forbid a module without a meaningful readme, with dependencies and its pod. 2. branch a last-version-only CPAN_modules_by_category. Let's write it better: 1. FORBID any module without a meaningful readme