Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

On 12/10/2007, Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-11 01:05]: http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/lambda-v0.0.1/lib/lambda.pm If I saw this in production code under my responsibility, I'd submit

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

On 10/11/07, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-11 01:05]: http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/lambda-v0.0.1/lib/lambda.pm If I saw this in production code under my responsibility, I'd submit it to DailyWTF. However, I have nothing against its use

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What worries me is someone's gonna submit an otherwise useful module to CPAN that uses this feature. Unfortunately, that is inherent to the nature of CPAN. Personally, I have to reject many potential useful CPAN modules because they use a plethora of other

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMO, shortcuts for typing long things will lead us to Eclipse. And precisely, what's wrong with that? ducks -- Johan

RE: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

Isn't that just a way of saying that we reach for the stars by standing on the shoulders of giants? -Original Message- From: Johan Vromans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:44 AM To: module-authors@perl.org Subject: Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...} Bill

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

# from Bill Ward # on Friday 12 October 2007 01:23: What worries me is someone's gonna submit an otherwise useful module to CPAN that uses this feature. What worries me is that anyone is worried about that. Do you audit your dependencies to make sure that none of them says 'use utf8'? --Eric

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

Eric Wilhelm wrote: The great thing about maintenance programmers is that they come from the future (the one where utf8 just works.) Wow. Which parallel future do you come from ? :)

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

On 12 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Andy Lester wrote: What worries me is someone's gonna submit an otherwise useful module to CPAN that uses this feature. Oh no, THEN what? What's the tragedy there? You're just being meta-negative Andy :) -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

On Oct 12, 2007, at 3:44 AM, Johan Vromans wrote: Personally, I have to reject many potential useful CPAN modules because they use a plethora of other modules that most of the time are not even related to the problem at hand. I find that annoying too. Usually I just bite the bullet and

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

--- Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/lambda-v0.0.1/lib/lambda.pm Combined with that vim shortcut, this is just too cool :) I'd probably have put it in the Acme:: namespace, though. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book -

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

# from Ovid # on Thursday 11 October 2007 00:54: I'd probably have put it in the Acme:: namespace, though. Why? AFAICT, the Acme stuff isn't typically intended for production use. I plan to use it early and often. --Eric -- Because understanding simplicity is complicated. --Eric Raymond

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cute, but doesn't it break programs that already use non-ascii (e.g., Latin1)? How? Because it's no different from the utf8 pragma: $ cat t.pl my $x = ë; $ perl -w t.pl $ perl -Mutf8 -w t.pl Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected continuation

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

# from Ovid # on Thursday 11 October 2007 02:08: but if it shows up in your CPAN modules, you might get a few complaints since this sugar, Oh well ;-) It's not an API element, just an internal dependency. It works with perl 5.6.2 and 5.8.8. Would anyone even notice? If you're editing the

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

# from Johan Vromans # on Thursday 11 October 2007 09:41: doesn't it break programs that already use non-ascii (e.g.,Latin1)? How? Because it's no different from the utf8 pragma:   $ cat t.pl   my $x = ë;   $ perl -w t.pl   $ perl -Mutf8 -w t.pl   Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

# from David Golden # on Thursday 11 October 2007 11:25: Uh, what about a vim shortcut that just does sub {.  E.g.: And why do we have an 'eq' operator instead of 'equals' ? IMO, shortcuts for typing long things will lead us to Eclipse. --Eric -- ...our schools have been scientifically

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

On 10/11/07, Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Combined with that vim shortcut, this is just too cool :) Uh, what about a vim shortcut that just does sub {. E.g.: imap ,{ sub {Space Or even: imap ,{ sub {SpaceSpace}LeftLeft -- David

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

--- Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why do we have an 'eq' operator instead of 'equals' ? IMO, shortcuts for typing long things will lead us to Eclipse. lambda - a shortcut for sub {...} my $code = #955; {...}; # instead of sub {...} ;) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book -

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

* Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-11 01:05]: http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/lambda-v0.0.1/lib/lambda.pm If I saw this in production code under my responsibility, I’d submit it to DailyWTF. However, I have nothing against its use in code I’ll never see. Carry on. This opinion brought

Re: lambda - a shortcut for sub {...}

On 10/10/07, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/lambda-v0.0.1/lib/lambda.pm For golfing with closures? David