Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-22 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from A. Pagaltzis # on Friday 20 April 2007 10:34 am: As far as I’m concerned, `configure_requires` is the solution that should have been implemented IN THE FIRST PLACE. Yep. That about says it all. That, and a client that checks for the need to update whenever if fetches the module list.

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-20 Thread Adam Kennedy
Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 05:12 pm: If you really want Module::Build to be installed, why not simply create a traditional Makefile.PL and add Module::Build as a prerequisite? That way your module can be installed with

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-20 18:30]: Module::Build's main attitude has always been to make things easier for authors at the expense of users, in part by implementing things that the rest of the tool-chain simply doesn't support. And Module::Install makes things easy for users

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-18 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:32:48 -0700, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: # from Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 05:12 pm: If you really want Module::Build to be installed, why not simply   create a traditional Makefile.PL and add Module::Build as a  

echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Eric Wilhelm
If META.yml says you need Module::Build and I don't provide a Makefile.PL, wouldn't that be a good time to install Module::Build? Should I just put a die in Makefile.PL to avoid this silly we're obviously missing the required build system but we'll try to pretend anyway stuff?

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Paul LeoNerd Evans
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:49:07 -0700 Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If META.yml says you need Module::Build and I don't provide a Makefile.PL, wouldn't that be a good time to install Module::Build? Should I just put a die in Makefile.PL to avoid this silly we're obviously missing the

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Joshua ben Jore
On 4/16/07, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If META.yml says you need Module::Build and I don't provide a Makefile.PL, wouldn't that be a good time to install Module::Build? Should I just put a die in Makefile.PL to avoid this silly we're obviously missing the required build system but

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Paul LeoNerd Evans # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 02:14 am: I ran into similar issues; I've discussed them earlier on this list. Yep. # from David Golden on Sunday 11 March 2007 05:43 am: This bug is the result of CPANPLUS trying to be clever and falling back to generating a

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Joshua ben Jore
On 4/17/07, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # from Paul LeoNerd Evans # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 02:14 am: I ran into similar issues; I've discussed them earlier on this list. Yep. # from David Golden on Sunday 11 March 2007 05:43 am: This bug is the result of CPANPLUS trying to be

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Joshua ben Jore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-17 16:25]: I've wondered about this - can you get a Makefile.PL to prereq Module::Build so CPAN.pm installs it, then transfer control over to M::B? If someone came up with a way to make this work reliably, the entire raison d’être for

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from A. Pagaltzis # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 01:21 pm: I've wondered about this - can you get a Makefile.PL to prereq Module::Build so CPAN.pm installs it, then transfer control over to M::B? If someone came up with a way to make this work reliably, the entire raison d’être for

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Eric Wilhelm wrote: The suggestion people made was to have M::B produce a 'traditional'-style makefile as well. So at least M::B-deprived systems might have a good go. My problem with the create_makefile_pl = 'traditional' is that it doesn't install Module::Build, so we're not making any

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 05:12 pm: If you really want Module::Build to be installed, why not simply   create a traditional Makefile.PL and add Module::Build as a   prerequisite? That way your module can be installed with   ExtUtils::MakeMaker yet Module::Build

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Chris Dolan
On Apr 17, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: The suggestion people made was to have M::B produce a 'traditional'-style makefile as well. So at least M::B-deprived systems might have a good go. My problem with the create_makefile_pl = 'traditional' is that it doesn't install

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andreas J. Koenig # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 09:18 pm:   The solution really should not involve 'traditional'.   Furthermore, I already do declare a dependency on Module::Build in the META.yml.  It seems that this is ignored though.  I understand Adam's argument about

Re: echo die Makefile.PL

2007-04-17 Thread Joshua ben Jore
On 4/17/07, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # from Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni # on Tuesday 17 April 2007 05:12 pm: If you really want Module::Build to be installed, why not simply create a traditional Makefile.PL and add Module::Build as a prerequisite? That way your module can be