Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-02 22:10]: Eric Wilhelm writes: I'm working on CAD::DXF for now, Cad is a well-known acronym. I have no use for anything cad-related in my life at the moment, so I know that I can safely ignore that module. But as it

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
Austin Schutz writes: On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:04:11PM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote: The FF:: namespace is a terrible idea, in my opinion. I expect that it will be meaningless to the majority of module searchers. The argument that search makes names irrelevant is just silly.

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-03 09:20]: But that's still grouping together all file-format-related modules (under Process::), rather than grouping them by function. I was not being serious. :-) Regards, -- Aristotle “If you can’t laugh at yourself, you don’t take life seriously

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Daniel T. Staal # on Friday 02 December 2005 12:59 pm: It's better than the other examples, which doesn't mean it is good.  How about FileFormat:: ? FileFormat::GBF - Front end to GBF read/write interface FileFormat::GBF::Parser ... Ok, but it's just SoooLoonng. I think Austin has a

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 08:30:20AM +, Smylers wrote: There are several places where somebody could first encounter a module name: Ok, I want to do something with my flash file. I search for 'flash file'... Oh look, there's a flash file parser. Do I care what it's called? A

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-03 11:05]: I tend to detest the long names that too much discussion about hierarchy has forced on us... use My::Really::Long::Module::Name; my $obj = My::Really::Long::Module::Name-new(); ... is just _almost_ tedious enough to warrant

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 07:32:04PM -0800, Eric Wilhelm wrote: It's better than the other examples, which doesn't mean it is good.  How about FileFormat:: ? FileFormat::GBF - Front end to GBF read/write interface FileFormat::GBF::Parser ... Ok, but it's just SoooLoonng. I think Austin

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
Austin Schutz writes: On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 08:30:20AM +, Smylers wrote: [Austin wrote:] Do I care what it's called? A large search results listing is one such place. You want to be able to pick out the potentially useful modules from the list, so having their names be

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
Eric Wilhelm writes: use My::Really::Long::Module::Name; my $obj = My::Really::Long::Module::Name-new(); ... is just _almost_ tedious enough to warrant copy/paste, but not quite. A decent editor should provide some sort of completion facility on previously typed terms, so that you

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-03 12:45]: I believe that Emacs has an equivalent feature Yeah, that camp calls it hippie-expand – don’t ask. and I'm sure I've seen some kind of tooltip completion feature on a gui Windows editor. That’s common. Eclipse also offers “word completion,”

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from A. Pagaltzis # on Friday 02 December 2005 02:45 pm:     Process::video::x_flv     Process::application::x_shockwave_flash     Process::image::x_dxf     Process::audio::mpeg     Process::image::png     Process::text::html That's great! Problem solved.

CPAN Upload: A/AN/ANDK/CPAN-1.80.tar.gz

2005-12-03 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
I'm pleased to announce the upload of a new CPAN release 1.80. Thanks to all involved people, especially those who didn't make it into the releasenotes. I hope you have the appropriate amount of fun or a least not too many annoying encounters with it. Thank you.

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Chris Dolan
On Dec 2, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Austin Schutz wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:04:11PM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote: The FF:: namespace is a terrible idea, in my opinion. I expect that it will be meaningless to the majority of module searchers. The argument that search makes names irrelevant is

Re: Module naming mailing list? Was: Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Ovid
--- Austin Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, you and a few other vocal people have very strong opinions about this, which I don't begrudge you. Can we move the discussions to a different list? While I certainly agree that long discussions about how to name modules get tedious after a

Re: Module naming mailing list? Was: Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Ovid # on Saturday 03 December 2005 12:22 pm: Then that conversation would legitimately jump back here and would eventually jump to the naming list ... over and over again.  That would be even more tedious (hard to believe, I know). And eventually everyone in the thread (except the list,

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Smylers # on Saturday 03 December 2005 03:41 am: That sounds tedious when written down like this, but basically it just involves holding down Ctrl and pressing P and X a few times. Neat. My vim does it all at once if the syntax mode is perl :-) That said, I would much rather see all

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
Eric Wilhelm writes: # from Smylers # on Saturday 03 December 2005 03:41 am: That sounds tedious when written down like this, but basically it just involves holding down Ctrl and pressing P and X a few times. Neat. My vim does it all at once if the syntax mode is perl :-) Ah, so it

Re: Module naming mailing list? Was: Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 12:22:16PM -0800, Ovid wrote: --- Austin Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, you and a few other vocal people have very strong opinions about this, which I don't begrudge you. Can we move the discussions to a different list? While I certainly agree that long