Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Jerry D. Hedden
Who do I need to contact to get access permission on svn.perl.org so I
can add the 'threads' and 'threads::shared' modules to it?


 

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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread David Golden

As with most things relating to Perl infrastructure, I'd start by
asking Ask: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,
David

On 4/2/07, Jerry D. Hedden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Who do I need to contact to get access permission on svn.perl.org so I
can add the 'threads' and 'threads::shared' modules to it?




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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:29:12AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
 As with most things relating to Perl infrastructure, I'd start by
 asking Ask: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or, more generally, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tim.

 Regards,
 David
 
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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Andy Lester


On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Jerry D. Hedden wrote:


Who do I need to contact to get access permission on svn.perl.org so I
can add the 'threads' and 'threads::shared' modules to it?


I recommend using Google Code hosting at code.google.com instead.   
Setup is trivial, as is adding people to the project.  Both of those  
require human intervention if you host it on svn.perl.org.


But I see from http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=606275 that you've  
asked and been responded to there about this.  I wonder why you still  
want svn.perl.org.


Andy

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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Andy Lester

For my own modules, I might consider it, but for core
modules, I feel they should go somewhere more 'official'.


I thought that, too, but now I don't see that it makes a shred of  
difference.  If you see anything where it would make a difference,  
even in perception, please let me know.




But I see from http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=606275


You must be mistaking me for someone else on this point.  I
am not referenced on that node.


Yes, my mistake.  David Golden commented on the thread here, and on  
perlmonks, and I had a brainfart.


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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Andy Lester


On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Jerry D. Hedden wrote:


If I should drop dead, someone in the Perl community could
take over the modules.


They can anyway.  The repository at code.google.com is no less open  
than svn.perl.org.


The big thing is that code.google.com takes the burden off of the  
already overworked and tireless Ask and Robrt.


xoxo,
Andy

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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Andy Lester


On Apr 2, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Tels wrote:


svn.perl.org sounds much
more officially perl than some random google URL,


So what?


plus you got two
repositories, which is never a good thing.


Why?  We've got dozens of repositories right now.  What's it matter  
if it lives in svn.perl.org or svn.petdance.com or svn.googlecode.com?


For me, concern #1 is ease of people getting at the code and ease of  
administration.  svn.perl.org is not easily administered because I  
have to go through Ask or Robrt to make changes.



However, as far as third-party code hosting goes, I just have to  
remind

people on sourceforge... one can only hope google fares better in the
feature.


And if it sucks in the future, then move it somewhere else.



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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Jerry D. Hedden
Jerry D. Hedden wrote:
 Who do I need to contact to get access permission on
 svn.perl.org so I can add the 'threads' and
 'threads::shared' modules to it?

Andy Lester wrote:
 I recommend using Google Code hosting at code.google.com
 instead.   Setup is trivial, as is adding people to the
 project.  Both of those require human intervention if you
 host it on svn.perl.org.

For my own modules, I might consider it, but for core
modules, I feel they should go somewhere more 'official'.

 But I see from http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=606275
 that you've  asked and been responded to there about this.
 I wonder why you still want svn.perl.org.

You must be mistaking me for someone else on this point.  I
am not referenced on that node.



 

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Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

Jerry D. Hedden wrote:

Jerry D. Hedden wrote:

Who do I need to contact to get access permission on
svn.perl.org so I can add the 'threads' and
'threads::shared' modules to it?


Andy Lester wrote:

I recommend using Google Code hosting at code.google.com
instead.   Setup is trivial, as is adding people to the
project.  Both of those require human intervention if you
host it on svn.perl.org.


For my own modules, I might consider it, but for core
modules, I feel they should go somewhere more 'official'.


The contact information Tim sent is right.   As Andy says we are 
encouraging people to look at code.google.com.


As for modules getting stuck/lost there if the author goes away:  The 
people at Google working on Google Code are friendly and helpful, I am 
sure we'll be able to sort that out even if Robert didn't work there and 
had internal access too.


That being said, we are happy to host things on svn.perl.org too, in 
particular core modules - partly for some of the reasons you list.  Just 
know that the UI for setting up access stuff is sending emails to RT. 



We have plans to make something better for that, but we made them when 
Sourceforge was state of the art.  Since the advent of Google Code 
it's fallen back on the priority list.



 - ask


Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

Jerry D. Hedden wrote:

Jerry D. Hedden wrote:

Who do I need to contact to get access permission on
svn.perl.org so I can add the 'threads' and
'threads::shared' modules to it?


Andy Lester wrote:

I recommend using Google Code hosting at code.google.com
instead.   Setup is trivial, as is adding people to the
project.  Both of those require human intervention if you
host it on svn.perl.org.


For my own modules, I might consider it, but for core
modules, I feel they should go somewhere more 'official'.


The contact information Tim sent is right.   As Andy says we are 
encouraging people to look at code.google.com.


As for modules getting stuck/lost there if the author goes away:  The 
people at Google working on Google Code are friendly and helpful, I am 
sure we'll be able to sort that out even if Robert didn't work there and 
had internal access too.


That being said, we are happy to host things on svn.perl.org too, in 
particular core modules - partly for some of the reasons you list.  Just 
know that the UI for setting up access stuff is sending emails to RT. 



We have plans to make something better for that, but we made them when 
Sourceforge was state of the art.  Since the advent of Google Code 
it's fallen back on the priority list.



 - ask


Re: Who controls svn.perl.org?

2007-04-02 Thread Tels
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Moin,

On Monday 02 April 2007 16:17:13 Andy Lester wrote:
 On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Jerry D. Hedden wrote:
  If I should drop dead, someone in the Perl community could
  take over the modules.

 They can anyway.  The repository at code.google.com is no less open
 than svn.perl.org.

 The big thing is that code.google.com takes the burden off of the
 already overworked and tireless Ask and Robrt.

So move svn.perl.org to google. Currently svn.perl.org sounds much 
more officially perl than some random google URL, plus you got two 
repositories, which is never a good thing.

However, as far as third-party code hosting goes, I just have to remind 
people on sourceforge... one can only hope google fares better in the 
feature.

All the best,

Tels


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