Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-16 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:57:15PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Rocco Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-12 11:29]: Conveniently, I've written exactly the thing that provides the features I need, in a way that's most convenient for my purpose. Everything else pales by comparison, otherwise

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-15 Thread Smylers
Rocco Caputo writes: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:19:14PM +, Smylers wrote: Similarly an author doesn't need to understand all of the problems, just so long as they state exactly what they are looking at, preferably stated upfront. So the article starts by saying I'm looking for a

Re: Finding the module you want

2004-02-15 Thread Smylers
David Manura writes: Smylers wrote: But yes, as the CGI::Lite maintainer I do have an interest in a review of CGI-related modules: I'd like it to put people off using CGI::Lite so that I can stop trying to maintain it and everybody can use something saner instead ... Of course,

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Rocco Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-12 11:29]: Conveniently, I've written exactly the thing that provides the features I need, in a way that's most convenient for my purpose. Everything else pales by comparison, otherwise I would not have written it. Here, let me show you. Are you

Re: Finding the module you want

2004-02-14 Thread David Manura
Mark Stosberg wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 09:59:32AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-09 15:26]: I think the CPAN rating system could be of further help here as well. It could be integrated with the search.cpan.org search engine. The rating could appear

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread Smylers
Mark Stosberg writes: From another angle, I see the current problem with the rating system is not abuse-- I've never noticed any beyond people rating their own modules with 5 stars with reviews like It's my module. It's primary downfall now is that it's simply not being used a lot. Making

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: I had an idea ... * It's better to have comparative articles than module centric reviews; they're also less susceptible to manipulation. Exactly: sometimes I find an article helpful even though I disagree with the author's conclusions because along the way he/she

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread Smylers
Simon Cozens writes: Hrm, there isn't an easy way to say this, but an issue with module reviews is that they're generally written by someone with a particular bias towards their own solution. True. But: * In order for you to have come to that conclusion, the bias must've been obvious

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Smylers) writes: Let's get some good material written first, then worry about where to stick it ... Oh, I know a little Perl-related web site that would love any module comparison articles you were to come up with. -- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should,

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread Smylers
Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy) From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 Feb 2004 10:25:07 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Smylers) writes: Let's get some good material written first

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread David Coppit
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Smylers wrote: Let's get some good material written first, then worry about where to stick it ... I'm coming in a bit late, but isn't this exactly what the various Perl conferences are for? I say submit it, get it reviewed as worthy, present it, then have it archived

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * It's better to have comparative articles than module centric reviews; they're also less susceptible to manipulation. I think these are great. The problem is they're a lot of work. I've written two (POOP and date/time) and I know Perrin wrote one

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Michel Rodriguez
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * It's better to have comparative articles than module centric reviews; they're also less susceptible to manipulation. I think these are great. The problem is they're a lot of work. I've written two

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread darren chamberlain
* Dave Rolsky autarch at urth.org [2004/02/10 09:03]: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * It's better to have comparative articles than module centric reviews; they're also less susceptible to manipulation. I think these are great. The problem is they're a lot of work. I've

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Eric Cholet
Le 10 févr. 04, à 16:16, darren chamberlain a écrit : I agree with you, but, if you are already investigating software to handle a task, wouldn't you look at as many alternatives as possible? I certainly wouldn't. Rather, I would look at as many alternatives as necessary until I find the module

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread darren chamberlain
* Eric Cholet cholet at logilune.com [2004/02/10 17:27]: Le 10 f?vr. 04, ? 16:16, darren chamberlain a ?crit : I agree with you, but, if you are already investigating software to handle a task, wouldn't you look at as many alternatives as possible? I certainly wouldn't. Rather, I would

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 05:27:11PM +0100, Eric Cholet wrote: Le 10 f?vr. 04, ? 16:16, darren chamberlain a ?crit : I agree with you, but, if you are already investigating software to handle a task, wouldn't you look at as many alternatives as possible? I certainly wouldn't. Rather, I would

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Eric Cholet
Le 10 févr. 04, à 17:29, darren chamberlain a écrit : * Eric Cholet cholet at logilune.com [2004/02/10 17:27]: Le 10 f?vr. 04, ? 16:16, darren chamberlain a ?crit : I agree with you, but, if you are already investigating software to handle a task, wouldn't you look at as many alternatives as

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Rolsky) writes: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * It's better to have comparative articles than module centric reviews; they're also less susceptible to manipulation. I think these are great. The problem is they're a lot of work. I've written two

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 09:03:27AM -0600, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * It's better to have comparative articles than module centric reviews; they're also less susceptible to manipulation. I think these are great. The problem is they're a lot of work.

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-10 16:31]: With Perl modules, I think there is typically less on the line than $100,000 contracts. I found in my own experience that people are generally trustworthy. Precisely this lack of consequence actually makes me feel it might be more

Re: Finding the module you want

2004-02-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Eric Cholet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-10 18:51]: There is of course another category of modules that I use, larger systems such as a templating module, or a date module. For those, I have found that hanging around mailing lists and forums quickly point me to the better alternatives. And

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Simon Cozens wrote: Hrm, there isn't an easy way to say this, but an issue with module reviews is that they're generally written by someone with a particular bias towards their own solution. (I say that as someone who wrote one too ;) That's not necessarily a problem if