Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-23 Thread Hans Dieter Pearcey
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 05:46:40PM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: Adding a social network could work very nicely, both to partly address several of the things you listed as well as to add other equally useful features. facepan! ISAGN I agree that there's a lot of overlap between features

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-23 Thread Hans Dieter Pearcey
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:49:43AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: Note that this differs from ratings, which I don't find very useful at all. Right. There are too many 5-star distros that have been rated such by the author and maybe one other person, and too many 3-star distros that are actually

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread sawyer x
I guess that answers most of it. - Of course, we need to make sure that new comers don't just take old modules (which work very good) and break them You can never assure that, and who would decide and monitor that anyway? Even if the module transfers to a new author, the older versions

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:03 AM, sawyer x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we do need some added guidelines to CPAN. My 2 cents: CPAN is fundamentally a free-wheeling, fairly anarchic place run by volunteers and containing the work of volunteers. Anything that imposes greater restrictions (a)

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Yaron Meiry
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:03 AM, sawyer x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we do need some added guidelines to CPAN. My 2 cents: CPAN is fundamentally a free-wheeling, fairly anarchic place run by volunteers and containing the work of volunteers. Anything that imposes greater restrictions

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, sawyer x wrote: Perhaps we do need some added guidelines to CPAN. I think you're trying to fix the problem on the wrong end. Regulating CPAN would be bad, because we shouldn't have confidence that we'll do a good job. Making the process of contributing harder would

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:40:09AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: Instead, what I think needs improvement is the search filtering bits. Frankly, search.cpan needs to be replaced with something much better (and ya know, open source). I'm not exactly sure what that is though ;) The open-source

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 16:45]: It'd probably incorporate some combination of ... * better search engine (fulltext search of all pod) * ratings baked right in so you can search based on rating * trust metrics for authors modules * some wiki-ish/annocpan-ish thing to

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 16:45]: It'd probably incorporate some combination of ... * better search engine (fulltext search of all pod) * ratings baked right in so you can search based on rating * trust metrics for authors

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 17:55]: Note that this differs from ratings, which I don't find very useful at all. Agreed. And trust networking is how humans are wired anyway. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread David Nicol
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 17:55]: Note that this differs from ratings, which I don't find very useful at all. Agreed. And trust networking is how humans are wired anyway. formal trust metrics can

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 01:03:32PM +0300, sawyer x wrote: Perhaps we do need some added guidelines to CPAN. I don't think so. We just need smarter tools. the fact that some modules are so outdated they won't work on any standard system, and there's no way to parse them out in the search

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* David Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 18:05]: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 17:55]: Note that this differs from ratings, which I don't find very useful at all. Agreed. And trust

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread David Nicol
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: formal trust metrics can be gamed. That's also how humans are wired. Sure, but not to any useful extent if they are person-centric and there is no worthwhile gain. There is no spam in my RSS reader and none in my

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* David Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-22 23:15]: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: formal trust metrics can be gamed. That's also how humans are wired. Sure, but not to any useful extent if they are person-centric and there is no

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-21 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 09/21/2008 07:17:14 AM, Sawyer X wrote: Hello everyone. I've been hacking away various unrelated modules (RTSP::Lite, Net::SMTP::TLS, for example) and occasionally I send the original author an email or a bug report to fix whatever problem I found. However, a lot of these problems (and