Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-03 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 09:26:56 am Ovid wrote:
 --- Keith Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah, Zawodny was a joke.  But JWZ is still Zawinski, not Zawinsky.

 Gah.  Kill me now, please.

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think Gah.  Kill me now, 
please.  Now they have two problems.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-03 11:00]:
 On Wednesday 02 May 2007 09:26:56 am Ovid wrote:
  --- Keith Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yeah, Zawodny was a joke.  But JWZ is still Zawinski, not
   Zawinsky.
 
  Gah.  Kill me now, please.
 
 Some people, when confronted with a problem, think Gah. Kill
 me now, please. Now they have two problems.

Gratuitous.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Ovid
--- Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but for the most part it is a happy little bubble.  When I lose that 
 abstraction layer, I guess I'll have to go sell fishing reels, start
 a night club, join a monastery, or etc.

Hmm, let's see.  'grep' from Portland.pm gave up IT to sell fishing
reels.  Jamie Zawicky started a night club and Randal Schwartz has DJd
at them.  Many of us are members of the Perlmonks Monastery.  I guess
we've all lost that abstraction layer ... :)

Cheers,
Ovid

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Andy Armstrong

On 2 May 2007, at 11:35, Ovid wrote:

Hmm, let's see.  'grep' from Portland.pm gave up IT to sell fishing
reels.  Jamie Zawicky started a night club and Randal Schwartz has DJd
at them.  Many of us are members of the Perlmonks Monastery.  I guess
we've all lost that abstraction layer ... :)


That's me in the corner.
That's me in the spotlight.
Losing my abstraction layer.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-02 12:40]:
 Jamie Zawicky

Zawinsky.

Regards,
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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Keith Ivey

A. Pagaltzis wrote:

* Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-02 12:40]:

Jamie Zawicky


Zawinsky.


Zawinski, actually -- or is it Zawodny?

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Ovid
--- Keith Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
  * Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-02 12:40]:
  Jamie Zawicky
  
  Zawinsky.
 
 Zawinski, actually -- or is it Zawodny?

Nope.  Aristotle's right.  I definitely meant Zawinsky.  He runs the
DNA Lounge (http://www.dnalounge.com/).  Their music seems awesome.  If
I ever get to that part of the world, I might just drop in.

(Zawodny works for Yahoo!)

Cheers,
Ovid

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Keith Ivey

Ovid wrote:

Nope.  Aristotle's right.  I definitely meant Zawinsky.  He runs the
DNA Lounge (http://www.dnalounge.com/).  Their music seems awesome.  If
I ever get to that part of the world, I might just drop in.

(Zawodny works for Yahoo!)


Yeah, Zawodny was a joke.  But JWZ is still Zawinski, not Zawinsky.

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Washington, DC


Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Ovid
--- Keith Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, Zawodny was a joke.  But JWZ is still Zawinski, not Zawinsky.

Gah.  Kill me now, please.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Andy == Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Andy On 2 May 2007, at 11:35, Ovid wrote:
 Hmm, let's see.  'grep' from Portland.pm gave up IT to sell fishing
 reels.  Jamie Zawicky started a night club and Randal Schwartz has DJd
 at them.  Many of us are members of the Perlmonks Monastery.  I guess
 we've all lost that abstraction layer ... :)

Andy That's me in the corner.
Andy That's me in the spotlight.
Andy Losing my abstraction layer.

s/layer//, it scans better.

Trying to keep my point of view...
And I don't know if I can do it.
Oh no, I code too much.
Haven't debugged enough.

Is that why I heard you laughing?
I thought that I heard you ping.
I think I thought I saw you reply.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread Andy Armstrong

On 2 May 2007, at 23:40, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

Andy That's me in the corner.
Andy That's me in the spotlight.
Andy Losing my abstraction layer.

s/layer//, it scans better.

Trying to keep my point of view...
And I don't know if I can do it.
Oh no, I code too much.
Haven't debugged enough.

Is that why I heard you laughing?
I thought that I heard you ping.
I think I thought I saw you reply.


Yes, that's much better :)

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Keith Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-02 16:10]:
 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
 * Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-02 12:40]:
 Jamie Zawicky
 
 Zawinsky.
 
 Zawinski, actually

Gah.

Regards,
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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-04-29 Thread Fergal Daly

On 28/04/07, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

# from Fergal Daly
# on Saturday 28 April 2007 06:28 am:

You don't have it as a prereq in Makefile.PL. It's possible the
machines running the test don't have it installed (people do weird
things to their perl instlls some times),

Like delete core modules?  I don't think it's a prereq issue.


It must be nice to live in a world where all bug reports come from
people with sane configurations :)

F



# from Paul LeoNerd Evans on Saturday 28 April 2007 05:29 am:

 /home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld/auto/B/
B.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Icheckav_save_ptr at
 /home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/XSLoader.pm line 70.

I think the problem is the $ENV{PERL} || 'perl' bit.  You want $^X.

I can't see any common differences between the machines it fails on,
 and the machines it passes on

If you look again, you might find that they all have something like this
is common:

  Perl: $^X = /home/cpan/perl588/bin/perl

I'm guessing that the PERL5LIB in the testing rig combined with your
test script forcing use of the system perl is causing perl5.6 or
whatever to try to load the .so for 5.8.8.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-04-29 Thread Paul LeoNerd Evans
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:56:40 -0700
Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the problem is the $ENV{PERL} || 'perl' bit.  You want $^X.

Aahhh yes, that looks quite likely. That was a line for our custom perl
testing harness at work. I should change that to use $^X, indeed.

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-04-29 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Fergal Daly
# on Saturday 28 April 2007 02:16 pm:

 Like delete core modules?  I don't think it's a prereq issue.

It must be nice to live in a world where all bug reports come from
people with sane configurations :)

Yeah, that's part of the grand delusion which allows me to keep working 
in the field.  I find it is easier to think logically when A ne a, 
etc.  Of course, there's some metaphor shear when my mom calls to ask 
why her printer driver requires her to install internet explorer, etc, 
but for the most part it is a happy little bubble.  When I lose that 
abstraction layer, I guess I'll have to go sell fishing reels, start a 
night club, join a monastery, or etc.

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Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-04-28 Thread Paul LeoNerd Evans
I've got a large number of failures (9 fail vs. 6 pass) on one module of
mine, which is dragging my stats down quite a bit, and I've no idea why:

  http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/B-LintSubs.html#B-LintSubs-0.03

They all seem to fail on some variant of:

  t/01happyCan't load
'/home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld/auto/B/B.so' for 
module B: 
/home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld/auto/B/B.so: 
undefined symbol: Perl_Icheckav_save_ptr at 
/home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/XSLoader.pm line 70.

That looks very much like a problem in B.so itself. But my module,
B::LintSubs is just a single pure-perl module of that name, I don't go
anywhere near B itself, so why does B fail here?

I can't see any common differences between the machines it fails on, and
the machines it passes on (7, including my desktop at home I tested it
on).

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-04-28 Thread Fergal Daly

You don't have it as a prereq in Makefile.PL. It's possible the
machines running the test don't have it installed (people do weird
things to their perl instlls some times),

F

On 28/04/07, Paul LeoNerd Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've got a large number of failures (9 fail vs. 6 pass) on one module of
mine, which is dragging my stats down quite a bit, and I've no idea why:

  http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/B-LintSubs.html#B-LintSubs-0.03

They all seem to fail on some variant of:

  t/01happyCan't load
'/home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld/auto/B/B.so' for 
module B: 
/home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld/auto/B/B.so: 
undefined symbol: Perl_Icheckav_save_ptr at 
/home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/XSLoader.pm line 70.

That looks very much like a problem in B.so itself. But my module,
B::LintSubs is just a single pure-perl module of that name, I don't go
anywhere near B itself, so why does B fail here?

I can't see any common differences between the machines it fails on, and
the machines it passes on (7, including my desktop at home I tested it
on).

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-04-28 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Fergal Daly
# on Saturday 28 April 2007 06:28 am:

You don't have it as a prereq in Makefile.PL. It's possible the
machines running the test don't have it installed (people do weird
things to their perl instlls some times),

Like delete core modules?  I don't think it's a prereq issue.

# from Paul LeoNerd Evans on Saturday 28 April 2007 05:29 am:

 /home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld/auto/B/
B.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Icheckav_save_ptr at
 /home/cpan/perl588/lib/5.8.8/XSLoader.pm line 70.

I think the problem is the $ENV{PERL} || 'perl' bit.  You want $^X.

I can't see any common differences between the machines it fails on,
 and the machines it passes on

If you look again, you might find that they all have something like this 
is common:

  Perl: $^X = /home/cpan/perl588/bin/perl

I'm guessing that the PERL5LIB in the testing rig combined with your 
test script forcing use of the system perl is causing perl5.6 or 
whatever to try to load the .so for 5.8.8.

--Eric
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