Re: Which namespace for a build system?
A. Pagaltzis wrote: The question I'd ask is, is there established Computer Science terminology for the problem a dependency solver addresses? That probably requires determining what kind of field the problem falls into. I have a hunch that that would be AI. How about a Dependancy Algorithm ? :-) http://search.cpan.org/dist/Algorithm-Dependency/ -- Sam Vilain, sam /\T vilain |T net, PGP key ID: 0x05B52F13 (include my PGP key ID in personal replies to avoid spam filtering)
Re: Which namespace for a build system?
I agree with you. A build system is no more than a dependency system with some fluff around. The fluff, in this case, is 10% of the code. Say I put those 10% under PBS as it is an application. I still have a problem finding out where to put the 90% left because some smart guy decided that Devel is for perl development (rule that is broken half a million times) and that there is no other top level place for this kind of module. I'd start a new space but I'd rather start something that is going to be used bu other (or PBS is as good) So my question boild down to this. Where do we put development, dependencies, dev tools, build systems. What ever is suggested I'll have hell of a time going through all the code and change it (yes I do have a bunch of PBS::XX::YY::Sub() because I don't specialy like the, very absurd, poluting policy modules have) Cheers, Nadim. A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A build system is an app but a dependency system is not. Even if it was to be classified as an app, I think we should have a root for build systems as there are at least three or four modules that would fit there. Well, quite a few applications or module suites ended up on CPAN as a set of generic, regularly named modules, besides those specific to the app, which got their own TLNS. So you might abstract your dependency management code into a (set of) module(s) used by your app, where the app goes in its own TLNS but the modules go wherever appropriate. This seems to apply to any application going on CPAN which actually tackles problems not previously solved (as opposed to apps which mainly glue together existing modules).
Re: Which namespace for a build system?
[ Actually, I'm going ahead and CC'ing the list because I'm going to suggest something that others will probably disagree with ;-) ] Nadim Khemir wrote: -Original Message- Is this a build system for perl modules or a generic build system? Is it an application or a library? Is the documentation available; I'd like to learn more about it. It' a generic build system aimed at replacing gmake, cons and the like. I'ts a meta-build system, a nice name to tell that it is not complete :-). I'm going to suggest that it is reasonable for an application of this sort to have its own namespace. It has a very specific use, and it is not generally applicable to other perl apps. I don't like the name PBS. Probably because, if you mention it anywhere in the U.S., people the of the Public Broadcasting Corp, a publicly funded educational TV broadcasting network. PBS is a set of modules that let you build a build system. Since it's written in perl, you can add your own libraries and even have your own syntax if you wish to but the plain syntax is perl and it looks rather good and easy. The best doc to start with is the presentation I gave at perl nordic workshop the slides are on their site. In the unix perpetual tradition, the documentation is the code. Seriously, the documentation that is available is very old and very confusing. It was my goal to re-document the system this summer but I simply didn't. As there are only 2 or 3 users for the system and I know them, we haven't had the necessity to document more (the system is easy to understand as it is rule based). I want to release the system to see if there are other are interrested and in that case I will write a proper documentation. I can just about guarantee that it is not going to be used without some documentation. I suggest it is useless to post it without docs, and possibly a couple of samples. PBS is reseach project that turned wellbut I still want to do some research (like iontegration between CM and build systems) One advantage of PBS is that it is quite fun to use and build debugging is one of the base for the program. Hey, that's two ;-)
Re: Which namespace for a build system?
khemir nadim wrote: I'm going to polute witha new top level namespace! PBS:: Don't anyone have any idea of where we should put this type of modules? Is this a build system for perl modules or a generic build system? Is it an application or a library? Is the documentation available; I'd like to learn more about it. Randy. Devel:: Devel::Build:: Build:: App::BuildSystem I'd appreciate some input. Cheers, Nadim.
Re: Which namespace for a build system?
I'm going to polute witha new top level namespace! PBS:: Don't anyone have any idea of where we should put this type of modules? Devel:: Devel::Build:: Build:: App::BuildSystem I'd appreciate some input. Cheers, Nadim.
