Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-26 Thread David R. Baird
I've just uploaded the first version of Tree::Authz to the CPAN, I'd be very interested in any comments people might have. Does it seem useful, does it violate expectations, how does the API grab you? Cheers, d. -- Dr. David R. Baird Riverside Content Management Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-24 Thread David R. Baird
On 24 Aug 2004 at 11:32, Sam Vilain wrote: Group, by itself, infers no such treeness. You may have chosen to model your groups and users by some close analogue of; +-+ +-+ ++ | GrantableEntity |--| Grant

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-23 Thread David R. Baird
On 22 Aug 2004 at 22:31, david nicol wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 18:04, David R. Baird wrote: I'm not 100% sure of the Tree:: bit (although it is based on a tree structure), but I can't see where else it could fit in. d. Are the arboreal aspects important to the use of the

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-23 Thread Sam Vilain
David R. Baird wrote: I think the treeness is quite important, because groups inherit the capabilities/permissions of their subgroups. So whenever you check if your own group is permitted to do something, you know that the tree- like hierarchy of groups contained within your group is also being

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-22 Thread David R. Baird
On 21 Aug 2004 at 18:18, david nicol wrote: On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 16:00, Kurt Starsinic wrote: Also, when you're talking about groups of groups as above, the more common term of art is accounts and subaccounts. - Kurt While we're pitching terms, *nix, which unashamedly uses

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-22 Thread david nicol
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 08:22, David R. Baird wrote: At the moment, I'm favouring something with Tree and ACL in it, plus something like MethodMaker to indicate the code-managing aspect. Maybe Perms instead of ACL, but ACL seems to be the standard terminology. ACL and groups are different

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-22 Thread David R. Baird
On 22 Aug 2004 at 17:26, david nicol wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 08:22, David R. Baird wrote: At the moment, I'm favouring something with Tree and ACL in it, plus something like MethodMaker to indicate the code-managing aspect. Maybe Perms instead of ACL, but ACL seems to be the

Re: namespace for users and groups

2004-08-21 Thread Kurt Starsinic
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:28:30 +0100, David R. Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've spent a fair bit of time looking for a generic, groups-based system for managing user privileges, but there doesn't seem to be one on CPAN. Lots of apps on CPAN have their own, tailor-made systems, but they tend