Does anyone even KNOW if the authorities have been engaged on this issue?
Even if it's just the local police department? A lot of people are using
FBI and the authorities in their emails, but are they really involved
and investigating anything???
Steve
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM,
I have regularly heard the word 'patina' also used by experts in
describing the finish of antique wood furniture, porcelain and all kinds
of other physical objects of art. Applying it to a poster is
questionable, but I suppose one could use it to describe the look of the
surface... i.e., that
Steve,
You are right on all points. In the past, after the outrage subsided,
things went on just as before. This time may be different for a couple
of reasons:
1) A *lot* more money was lost on these high-end fakes. Millions of
dollars by some accounts.
2) The reports coming out clearly
Do the FBI have experts on authenticating movie posters: I presume they have to
determine themselves, if it is fake or not, or do they have to go outside the
bureau to get help and if so who would they seek help from?
Simon
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From: Richard Halegua Comic Art
JR, I believe you just outed Heritage.
On 2 Oct 2009, at 07:35, James Richard wrote:
Steve,
You are right on all points. In the past, after the outrage
subsided, things went on just as before. This time may be different
for a couple of reasons:
1) A *lot* more money was lost on these
Hi Grey,
You mean his statement is untrue, specifically in regards to any loss
to Heritage?
If so, accepted.
Are you also denying fakes inadvertently passed through Heritage?
I wasn't clear on that bit.
On 2 Oct 2009, at 16:17, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:
Richard
JR reads between the
Richard
JR reads between the lines! His statement is untrue in regards to a loss to
Heritage due to fakes.
On Oct 2, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Richard Evans
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wrote:
JR, I believe you just outed Heritage.
On 2 Oct
when counterfeit vintage 1-sheets and lobbies were circulating
through the hobby.
On the other hand, I've always looked at vintage stills and photos as
a major potential area for fraud. And as I look at these same items
popping up in numerous auctions, it makes me wonder.
Hasn't PIH been auctioning massive numbers of vintage stills of all sizes?
Hm.
Well, as long as they have been authenticated, I guess there is nothing to
worry about.
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stephen Fishler
steph...@metropoliscomics.com wrote:
when counterfeit vintage
If it's offset, remove a 0.
On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:58, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:
JR and Mopo
This whole incident just spotlights the fact that it is getting damn
near impossible for someone to authenticate a linen-backed poster
(or a card stock-based poster that has had its original card
You did though, see it.
Can't help wondering that if you hadn't, whether the rest of us ever
would have seen the day.
On 2 Oct 2009, at 16:49, Stephen Fishler wrote:
when counterfeit vintage 1-sheets and lobbies were circulating
through the hobby.
On the other hand, I've always
Was not meant as a dig at any one party. Just another reason to be
vigilant.
On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Hasn't PIH been auctioning massive numbers of vintage stills of all
sizes?
Hm.
Well, as long as they have been authenticated, I guess there is
This has been a fascinating (and sad) discussion about the fakes, the
forgeries being made, with the DRACULA one sheet discussed as the
most recent example.
In reading the posts from all of those in the know, there hasnt been
any talk (if known) about who the ORIGINAL restorer was who
Excellent post Susan... until all the facts are known and proven...
innuendo and rumor cannot be relied upon.
As was mentioned a month or so ago, maybe Jaime has been advised NOT
to speak out on the matter. Until all the cards are on the table, he
cannot be convicted. I am not defending
I was looking at PIH's online catalog... they seem to also auction a
lot of autographed photos.. and havent forged signatures been around
for years (whether it be photos, baseballs, basketballs, etc)?
Jeff
On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Hasn't PIH been auctioning
Hi Jeff - For your benefit, I am re-posting the following:
When we received the poster, the majority of the thick cardboard had already
been stripped away, leaving a thin layer on the back. Before cleaning and
linenbacking to occur, it is crucial that any tape, paper, glue, duck tape,
So have Knock off purses and perfumes. what's your point
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Sure, John at Poster Mountain screwed up. Having said that,
scrapping his authentication service is a huge mistake. His problem
is that he rolled it out too quickly. There were certain factors and
elements that he needed to incorporate which he clearly didn't...and
that led to the
a true forensics lab with expensive spectro-analysis equipment
chemical testing equipment
people who know printing and know inks
people who can test the glues and people who know and have a record
of all known legal reproductions
you know, when a crime lab does analysis of a tire tread, they
I completely agree that some sort of service is important and that the work
John was doing has value. I was there and saw how much work he put into it and
how much progress he made.
It seems he did make a mistake on the 'Dracula' poster because he was looking
into one area and not
There are 435 lots in this week's Heritage Internet Auction. We are featuring a
great selection of original movie posters, lobby cards and stills. The auction
closes this Sunday, October 4th at 10pm CT.
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Mat
I agree that John was trying to help the hobby.
However, what he did do because he was not as experienced in some
areas of forensic discovery was muddy the water for all the lawsuits.
It would probably have been a good idea for him to recognize that
this was something beyond his ability
At 03:34 PM 10/2/2009, dli...@aol.com wrote:
why don't YOU start one!!! you know more about printing than anyone
Dave, I know nothing about forensics, I do not have a lab or
expertise in discovering fakes
authenticating this material needs scientific training and neither my
art training,
At 03:45 PM 10/2/2009, Andrea Kanter wrote:
Maybe someone at the Smithsonian could advise
Andrea
that is definitely the idea..I think I said something like that days ago
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Sorry, Rich.
Look, there is obviously an opening for a niche business here and this
list has much of the intense knowledge that's required.Also,
somewhere on this list, is the funding that will be needed. A
gathering of great talents and equipment will be essential to
success.
what's top be sorry about Darlin??
you are right on the money.. we need a Smithsonian to do the work as
they have a gathering of experts and we need an Indian tracker on
this.. No one person has the skills needed to resolve this
Rich
At 04:33 PM 10/2/2009, Andrea Kanter wrote:
Sorry, Rich.
It is obvious that everyone has learnt something out of all of this and the end
result is that auction houses will now have more knowledge and guidance on how
best to authenticate posters.
However, one thing that seems to have been missed is the importance of
provenance. Autograph dealers
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Hello Folks.. well I know afew the people at the Library of Congress ,
and the Smithsonian, and some other archivists that specialize in Film .
The paper posters I would suggest some of the Best are people Like Morrie
and Sue and Ed Poole and Rudy, and various dealers like Ron Borst, and
aside from the fact that everything said here is one part of the
solution and a lab is needed for chemical blah blah as I stated before..
I noticed this post is coherent, non-rambling and has few typos.. so
I have to ask
who are you sir, and where is the real Tom Martin???
At 07:00 PM
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Richard Halegua Comic Art Movie Posters wrote:
aside from the fact that
I have known John Davis, probably longer than anyone. I first knew him when he
was, basically a kid, working at Picture Perfect. During those days, during
many employer/employee relation problems, I usually found myself in the middle,
in most cases, trying to defend the rights of the
Looking for a great quote to linen back a 6 sht...not a particularly
valuable poster, just nice art for a large office wall.
Thank you to any who reply.
DBT
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I'm looking for quotes to LB a 6 sht. The poster is nothing fancy, just
nice art for a large office wall.
Thanks to any who reply.
Regards
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