Hi Wim,
You wrote:
I do thrive on vegetarian food for 25 years now. (I confess I eat meat
maybe once a year when food isn't easily recognisable or properly
labelled as 'carnivores only'.)
My reason for renouncing meat is not that it would be immoral for me
to be instrumental in killing lower
Greetings,
This is by way of an aside on the Emotions question, as I must confess to
not having had a proper chance to digest everything that has been said so
far in this thread, but I feel the following might be of interest (it comes
from an essay I wrote a couple of years back):
Antonio
Hi Platt, thanks for the response. Two things:
1. The structure of Pirsig's argument. You quote him -
Is it immoral, as the Hindus and Buddhists claim, to eat the flesh of
animals? Our current morality would say it's immoral only if you're a
Hindu or Buddhist. Otherwise it's okay, since
Greetings one and all,
Platt wrote:
Actually I was unaware of this hypocrisy in the MOQ and appreciate
your pointing it out. Frankly I was shocked to learn that the MOQ
considers vegitarians to be morally superior to the vast majority of
Americans and Europeans, at least as regards their eating
of
dynamic quality as the goal of existence? Where does it say that in
Lila?
Elizaphanian you preach and I'll turn the pages!
Whenever you kill a human being you are killing a source of thought too. A
human being is a collection of ideas, and these ideas take moral precedence
over a society
A quick response to Jonathan:
So when SAM says:
I have a *lot* of sympathy with this.
I'm not surprised, but would be delighted if he agrees also out of a
religious perspective.
What do you say Sam?
I say that I DO agree from a staunchly religious perspective, but to spell
out exactly
Hi again Glen, somewhere along the line our wires are getting crossed,
because I really don't recognise my perspective in the position that you
seem to be criticising.
Sam wrote:
(Compare the murder rates of inner city London with inner city
Washington
DC). That
doesn't seem an outrageous
Hi all,
Jonathan wrote:
The universe is complete (UNI) * BY DEFINITION *. i.e. it IS an axiom. As
soon as
the universe starts to look incomplete, then what we are looking at is
something less than the whole universe.
Sam's question: this is indeed what I was groping towards, but I think
Stephen wrote:
i don't know
of any martial art that doesn't take the only for defense, never attack
line seriously when you talk to its senior practitioners.
Aikido certainly does, and I would argue that ju-jitsu is sympathetic to
acting only in self-defense (or defense of another).
I
Sam wrote:
The point being that violence begets violence; even if there arise
situations that leave us no alternative but a violent response, those
situations have come about because of poor judgement, mistakes or plain
evil
intent earlier on in the process. The only way to make things
Andi wrote:
It's really unfair to blame
the problem of violence in young males so largely on hormones.
My last post was somewhat hastily written, and there were some things I
didn't spell out. I actually don't think we disagree too much on this. My
view is really that there is a
Jonathan wrote:
Marco, in energetic terms, closed means that their is no input our
output of
energy. There is no reason the system can't go on expanding in space.
What I would like to find out is *why* it is considered that there is no
input of energy; or, to be more precise, why such a
As main exponent of the 2nd law in this forum, I reject your assertion and
think that it reflects a lack of understanding of the law.
The law states the direction in which closed systems (including the
universe
as a whole) tend to change over time. It does not tell us if that change
will
Wim: I'd love to discuss the subject of God MoQ with you
(and anybody else). If you are afraid to hurt and/or antagonize anyone on this
list I wouldn't mind going on off-list. As no-one seems to be inclined to join
in on our e-correspondence via [EMAIL PROTECTED] until now, it wouldn't
Hello people, I've been lurking for a couple of
weeks and (mostly for reasons of work pressure) haven't contributed anything
before. But I'm about to go away for a week's holiday, I have to catch a taxi to
the airport in three and a half hours (which will be 03:00 hours in the morning,
UK
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