fast on a dead end way. The
only idea that something is good as the Founding Fathers said that does not
sounds very Dynamic to my hears.
In the end
people kill people not guns.
By means of what?
Marco
p.s. 1
Gerhard:
It the moment I'm not certain that MoQ are defining my goal, as I
with a strange sort of paralysis as Rigel's boat turned and then headed
back north across the bay.
(end of Chapter 31)
Bye, Marco
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Hi Marco
Platt,
Marco
Anyway Platt, as I wrote once, here in Italy even the atheists are catholic.
When we say that we put human life above everything we are probably meaning
something a guy called Jesus used to say many years ago. I'm not very
religious,
but I've always read in the MOQ
sort. I don't know if you are trying to use the MOQ as a moral compass, but if
the compass says you have to go North, could well be that sometimes it is better
to have a little detour.
Ad maiora
Marco
p.s.
Further, Marco, Andrea and Gerhard find plenty in the MOQ to support
humanitarian
capital
punishment. Perhaps a Nazi scenario would have been more effective. I
think there is a time and place for capital punishment although it is
infrequent.
Marco:
I think that if capital punishment is wrong in McVeigh's case, well, it's always
wrong. In *extreme conditions* I don't deny
be that your friend is the serial killer! Or even you, if
they both agree.
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Marco,
You seem pretty uptight about this racist thing. You think you've never had
a rascist thought or never made a racist statement before?
Could be, but I'm pretty sure that my post about Nigeria was completely
anti-racist. On the other hand, I think that exploitation of weak
or senescence? Generally, the older we get, the more we appreciate static Quality (or,
on the other hand, we fear DQ). Maybe we can have wisdom just for one moment,
somewhere in the middle of our life... when Dynamic enthousiasm and static prudence
are in perfect armony.
Marco
Midway
, once the conceiver has been reduced to
impotence, the best way to demonstrate his mistakes is to convince him he was
wrong.
Of course, my words are useless, as I'm pretty sure that the 80% of death
penalty supporters are just supporting a stupid vengeance...
bye,
Marco
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there is
not the right model. We are not teaching freedom. We are teaching that there's
another big and ugly white tribe. Not really a good presage.
Ciao
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on increasing. The doomsday picture
of absolute disorder is a situation that cannot be reached.
oopsss... hope I've not disclosed any secret! :-)
Marco, in energetic terms, closed means
that their is no input our output of energy.
There is no reason the system can't go on
expanding in space.
Ah
Rasheed, Maggie, and emotive moqers
Marco,
i like your three branches of the intellectual division idea. the only thing
i wonder about is how morals are incorporated into the spiritual and
emotional level.
Actually, I was not referring to emotional/artistic and spiritual/mystic
knowledge
Hi Rasheed, Platt
Rasheed:
My perception of the 'code of art' was wrong, thanks for clearing it up.
However, because t is in fact a fourth Dynamic morality, doesnt that in
itself point to a fifth level?
Marco:
Who knows? The only important thing is that, fifth or not fifth, we still have
the *old* universe.
That is, entropy can't be reached.
It seems too easy. Tell me where I'm wrong. :-)
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Hi Brian,
Marco:
Another thing I've noticed is that my cat *prefers* to sleep on clean
dresses, and on my bed when it's well arranged. Otherwise, if the bed is
all messed up, she uses to sleep on an old chair. In the past, another cat
had different fondnesses. I'd not point to that exactly
to
explain while intelligent MOQers like 3wDave, Clarke, Platt and Roger and others
are anti socialists, while likewise intelligent MOQers like Horse, Jonathan,
Gerhard, Andrea and others are socialists.
Marco
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are patterns of the same biological level So I wonder why the
insights of Aristotle, Michelangelo and Buddha can't be patterns of the same
intellectual level...
Sorry for my impertinence and thanks for reading
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for a more inclusive truth. The *larger umbrella* Roger's talks about.
Ciao
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. And that's enough.
Roger:
The quest is to find the imperfections in our own view.
My compatriot Andrea wrote once: all we can do is to find a better mistake.
Ciao
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Hi Andrea,
thanks for your comments. I'm in total agreement, so, not much to say. I also
think that Human Rights are a good set of static intellectual patterns, and
there's no reason to believe they can't be dynamically increased.
Ciao,
Marco
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Q bless you.
thanks for your comments
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, if you want. It
doesn't change a lot.
DQ bless you
Marco
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Dear Matt,
Thanks for fleshing yourself out (13/6 18:29 -0500).
Your
to Europe!
ROG:
You have been stressing the need for competing systems for a half year now.
You taught me well my brother!
Well, I'm a terrible stubborn. Sorry for the stress. :-)
So, do we have any outstanding issues?
No, I'd say.
Ad Meliora
Marco
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. The reptiles curve is over.
Bye
Marco
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a little astray,
but MD is unmoderated, so I think it's unavoidable.
But there is also MF, that is moderated and where (the name explains that very
well ) the focus on the MOQ is more strictly observed; and, by the way, the flux
of mails is a little more calm.
Hope to see you also there!
Ciao
Marco
. Leftists tolerate social diversity, but work for economic
equality.
Marco
p.s.
I'm completely with Jonathan about the military option (even if I hated my
conscription)
p.p.s.
Roger, I forgot to say how I like your new mot
Viva la evolution!, much better than ICBW..
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Score is 90%.
And for our past government:
it was left-liberal
Personal Self-Government Score is 70%.
Economic Self-Government Score is 10%.
Hard times for libertarians, here !
Ad Meliora
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MD
corporations just want to
swindle us.
Maybe we are both right?
Ad meliora
Marco
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Gerhard: You're right about drug
we're buying with these boats is space, nothingness, emptiness
... huge sweeps of open water ... and sweeps of time with nothing to do ...
That's worth a lot of money. You can't hardly find that stuff anymore».
thanks for your attention
Marco
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Platt,
I'm going to be a little hard.
Marco:
The superiority of capitalism over communism resides in the dynamism ensured
by
capitalism at the social level. So, I think it would be moral to have a
dynamic
form of intellect (more dynamic than SOM), as counterpart of the social
dynamism
criticism to the market a terrific sign of
Stalinism?
Tombola!
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of artists.
thanks for reading
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Rasheed, and an aside to Platt:
Rasheed:
Marco said:
'a) The free market is Victorian. According to all what RMP uses to say about
Victorians, maybe it could be possible to find something better'
I dont know how the free market is supposedly Victorian, didn't Pirsig
explain that his
Americans, but the system. It's quite
different. I appreciate a lot your attachment to your system, just it seems to
me that, from this different viewpoint, all this morality of an unruled
capitalism is not very clear.
Bye
Marco
p.s.
by the way. The very funny thing in all this thread is that I AM
3WD
It is a pity that Bo is no longer an active
subscriber. It would be interesting to hear
his take on this issue vis a vis the MoQ.
Hi Dave, hope it can be of help.
Bo (16 Oct 2000 to MF):
In chap. 17 (on page 224 bantam ed. 1991) Mr. Pirsig writes. When they call it
freedom,
markets.
Bye
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Roughly speaking, Capitalism does not find advantages in
developing poor nations. Instead of creating there new markets,
it tends to create new products in the old markets.
Lawry
Actually, many 3rd world markets are emerging and are now important to the
US economy as buyers
Talking with a Yankee about socialism is like talking with a catholic priest
about sex. They both don't practice it, nevertheless they feel the right to
pontificate about it.
(Marco, 28 May 2001)
The question is: WHAT Socialism? It is obvious from Rog's words that he feels
socialism antithetic
.
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of the
market (society) owning ideas (intellect).
My conclusion is that our democracies have a precise limit: politicians, writers,
opinion leaders have to be polular; but today , in order to pursue Quality, we need
dreams, courage, and even unpopularity.
Bye
Marco
p.s.
I strongly thank all
Is there still someone who wants to save this engulfing boat?
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be
cancelled, but let's not forget that Dan worked on it about two years. Maybe it was
possible to stop him before.
bye
Marco
p.s.
I think in this occasion too many people are not applying the MOQ to a real life
event. We all are very clever to claim the MOQ when we talk about Reality
of writing... but maybe Elephant has more to say about it?
Bye
Marco
What is the source of ZMM's epigraph - presumably from
a Platonic dialogue:
And what is good, Phaedrus... ?
Book and line number would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark
TBard and all,
the term was coined circa 1600-1700 AD using the root Hellene
...
Hellenistic uses the -istic suffix to mean it was like Greek culture
And how do you think they will call our times, circa 2600-2700 AD?
Anglistic, Americanistic. ? :-)
Marco
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it is a period that is immediately subsequent to the Athenian golden age of
Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. In those times, the Greek (Hellenic) culture *invaded*
the whole mediterranean, and actually the main Hellenistic cultural center
(Alexandria) was not in Greece, but in Aegypt.
KALH ESPERA
Marco
to be defined by immediate perception). In the immediate, the man actually feels that
*collecting money to build a hospital in Africa is the good thing to do (now)*
MARCO HAD ANSWERED:
The MOQish is NOT mystic. He does not think that the future is illusion, he just think
that in order to attain
your money? No, it
does not work. I'll try to find a solution:
ANDREA:
Quality cannot be concerned with outcomes. On one hand, this is
trivial
from a logical standpoint (if A is good because it brings B, then it
is
B that's good).
MARCO:
Your logic works (just let me say that it's funny you
of Quality that leads to creativity,
AND the aware ability to forecast and consolidate results, that leads to the static
latch. BOTH DYNAMIC AND STATIC. :-)
sorry if I've been a little hard to the mystics
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rced.
Rog:
I support the progression of experience to awareness to consciousness.
[...] I would say Marco and I have reached a consensus on the issue.
Me:
Could be but it is strange that you are not in agreement with the
other PROs, and I feel I'm not in disagreement with them. And you have
be
c quality. And evaluate the experience
according to four possible levels. There's a continuity, VALUE, and a
discontinuity, the kind of EVALUATION. The more we go back to the basic
levels, the more the evaluation is immediate (that is: non-mediated), as
memory is more weak at those levels. The more w
Yes, I guess. Are you trying to lead me somewhere?
:-)
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To Marco:
From: Platt
Are you OK with "atoms experie
Roger, Platt, Jonathan and all aware and unaware people.
ROG:
Does someone want to try to wrap up the issue and offer a solution that
we can all agree on? Or do we still need to hash out a few issues?
Marco, you still out there?
MARCO:
Here I am! I'm very flattered you ask for my
ng question is "Where does our awareness come from?"
Ciao
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nowledge? ... NO. (Intellectually) we are knowledge. Are we
sensible? NO. (Biologically) we are sensation. We are the experience of
DQ. And atoms, as well, are the inorganic experience of DQ. What else?
JONATHAN:
While recognizing Pirsig's tremendous contribution, I also note his
statement (in an old messa
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Vi aspettiamo QUI !
Un saluto affettuoso
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ess and free will are, simply, the possibility to be dynamic, and
that this principle is valid at all levels.
tks
Marco
p.s.
Of course my words have no sense according to the Elephant position that
all "things" are mind games. This is the basic disagreement.
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Andrea, Elephant, T.Bard, Platt, Jonathan, all
**
Mercoledi 21 Marzo, Andrea wrote:
So we have two positions:
Marco (previously): "all roads are good".
Elephant: "only one road produces tranquility."
Actually I wrote
her a road that is comfortably high-quality
at this point is really going to be *ultimately* satisfactory.
It may still be a nice road, and lead off in the wrong
direction, hence: not all roads are real roads to the good and
the true.
MARCO:
In a MOQ context, this is a contradiction.
RMP:
"If the m
Elephant and all Gravitons,
ELEPHANT:
But do all roads lead to the truth?
MARCO:
All roads are true.
ELEPHANT:
Hm. Long pause before I replied to that one. Can't think of
anything very much to say to that. Except maybe "really?".
MARCO:
Maybe I had to write "All roa
a small mistake, sorry.
about Heraclitus and Lao-Tze I had to write that they both describe
reality
in terms of oppositions. In Heraclitus reality is a STRUGGLE of
oppositions, not certainly an harmony.
Ciao.
The Italian writer Luciano de
Crescenzo in his book about Heraclitus "Panta Rei"
Elephant,
As we walk along the road, care to comment on my throwaway line that
you
overlooked? The one about maps:
MARCO WROTE:
I agree with Roger about the warning in the bottom of the map. But
I
would like to discuss the map, here: actually, maps are the only
things
we can
elephant,
MARCO:
But this was not our only disagreement. There is another one, and
it's
about the patternmakers. In your opinion, intellect (language) is
the
only patternmaker. Again according to my edition of the map, they
are
four. My map says that when intellect works
ity. When I say that intellect does not come first, you accuse me of
numericism, failing to recognize that also my edition of the map says
that first of all there is DQ.
bye
Marco
p.s.
well, 'sorry' is all I can think of to say.
Oh, I'm sorry too. If (I felt that) we were on a dead end way, su
Marco To Elephant and all insiders
there is nothing to do. the more I try, the more you put in my mouth
words I've never said.
I think this is my last answer to you on this thread. Actually it is not
even an answer. We both failed. I think I'll go on with Roger, if he
wants. Take my post
Marco to 3WD, Glenn, Platt and all
Many thanks, Dave, for your contribution.
3WD:
If "Quality is ..direct experience" and "..."a thing that has
no value (quality) does not exist. The thing has not created
the value.
The value has created the thing." So for a
Marco To Roger and all insiders:
MARCO (to ELEPHANT):
I will start from your point that the *outside* reality is dynamic,
while *inside* the world is static.
ROG:
I reject this split. In and out are static divisions as well...
probably the primary static split. I don't think Elephant
Marco to all the Ponderers
many thanks to David Lind, Platt Holden, Elephant, ThracianBard, Jon for
this thread. It's IMO a good "lateral drift" from the usual path. As
everything pops out from a sentence I offered, I need to jump in.
Firstly, for those who will have a bit of patie
MARCO TO ELEPHANT
(and Andrea Sosio, Riskybiz Roger , Platt Holden, Andrew Bowen... and
all MD)
... about DQ, sq, truth, beauty, language (wow!)
MARCO WROTE:
I think I'm stating that the static entities are unreal... as
well as dynamic entities are unreal... all entities
Marco to Kevin, and all pro- and anti- Heideggerians
As I wrote in a precedent message, I've also found in the past
similarities between Pirsig and Heidegger. I admit I'm not an *expert*
of Heidegger, and all I know about him comes from other thinkers.
I've recovered a book of an Italian
Kevin, (with a p.s. to Horse and Diana)
And how do you define a *legitimate* philosopher?
I'm interested to become a legitimate philosopher. Can you please tell me where can I
get the credentials?
:-)
Marco
p.s.
by the way, it's not the first time that Heidegger emerges on these pages
Marco to Platt
Thanks for your answer, Platt. I just comment on few points.
PLATT'S QUESTION:
Everyone runs the same "me" program that doesn't belong to anyone?
MARCO'S ANSWER:
If you mean here that "my" life is not really mine, as I'm composed
of a
mix of
world around me. A good way is
to understand that I'm part of this world. To surpass any division
between me and the other.
Let me know your thoughts
Be good.
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on: rising doubts, more than offering
answers. The most important thing is to persuade people to search.
tks for reading.
Ciao
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y, and preserve
existing species' ability to be biologically dynamic. (Perhaps this
can
this be justified in terms of "higher quality intellectual activity"
than
would exist in (a).)
Platt, Elephant and Marco have contributed. I hope I have summarized
your
positions correctly!
-
MARCO ACCEPTS THE CONCLUSION OF ROGER, AND HOPES ALSO THAT PLATT AND
DANILA DO AGREE.
Roger, Danila, Platt and MD
Roger, let me say that your post has been for me a sort of Christmas
present!
== a. Picasso
ROG:
I concede! He [Picasso] is an intellectual. Seriously.
MARCO
Marco to Danila
thank for your comments and questions, I'll try to give my opinions and
clarifications
You think Art should be included in Intellect. I said that Art is
equivalent to Intellect (above the Social level) but should be
considered
separately.
Comment:
Perhaps our
Hi ELEPHANT,
ELE wrote:
... but I just don't get how Chemistry Professors can
be regarded as a "simplification" of physics (you say it is the physics
you
are talking about).
MARCO:
Let me a quick flashback. The thread was originated by this Roger's
sentence:
(ROGER)
ELE and Roger
PUZZLED ELEPHANT TO MARCO RE ENTROPY:
MARCO WROTE:
IMO when an electron captures energy and performs a quantum leap, it
simplifies experience. IMO when light passes through a prism and splits
in
colors, it simplifies experience. "Experience" is simply interact
Hi JoVo,
thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I think we are in agreement. Soon
even Roger :-)
The inexorable countdown is proceeding .. I just take the occasion to say:
auf wiedersehen.
Marco
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actly the "hardcopy" of a. However,
IMO even a. is, for what we know, a patterned behavior.
At the same way, it's very arguable that the light splitting happens
independently by the presence of a perceiver. of course only the
presence of a perceiver make it possible the phenomen
to differentiate
between the entity (society, intellect, etc.) and the value patterns it
(can) create.
YES!
even though I agree with Marco that art is just as valuable an
INTELLECTUAl
value pattern as logical thought (really one is holistic, the other
analytic), in practice
the INTELLECTUAL
To PLATT and BO,
Platt:
I'm delighted that you have invited me to comment on your idea
that art could be an extension of intellect
It's me who is flattered for your comments
MARCO:
I consider ART (or, better, RT) the activity that can be closer to DQ.
That's, in few words
Roger,
here is the second thread about intellect.
MARCO (previous post):
The inorganic world also "simplifies experience" and
behaves according to patterns. But if you are using "life" also for the
inorganic level, we agree.
ROG:
I do not know of any examples th
ciety (to paraphrase Popper), but
considering its roots into antiquity, it seems to miss any of the
characteristics of an intellectual pattern.
MARCO:
Did I ever write that language IS intellectual? I don't remember. If I did,
I was under the effect of drugs :-). Language is social. Just like DNA is
inor
Dear Bo,
Bo ==
I appreciate your will to question my pet idea.
Marco ==
When I become so maniac about something it's because I see VALUE in it. You
pet idea is worth to be questioned, as IMO it contains a lot of good
insights... but I also would like to separate something that is not good
ou forgive my little delay.
ROGER ==
1) Patterns are simplifications derived from the complex stream of
experience. All life attends to and selects and simplifies experience into
those patterns of most importance. Moving black dot = food for a frog.
Electric can opener sound = food for my c
problem in defining patterns of value is that they operate on
all four levels simultaneously.
you can try to eliminate the possibility for patterns to operate on
different levels, leaving this possibility only to things.
Glad if we agree. If not let me know!
Bye.
Marco
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ery scientific and objective) aspect. The same
term "hello" is social or intellectual, but, let me say, in this case I do
prefer consider it preeminently social.
I've begun with this personal view on patterns and levels, as
this is probably the key to solve part of the discussion I
t possible to find a criterion to choose what's in and what's out?
Marco.
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Oggetto: Re: MD Dewey/James
What's so strange about teaching Dewey up against Sc
Horse, in order to make the
discussion take off. In facts, I assumed the Magnus' sentence as the first
step. This was my answer:
==
MARCO (6 June 2000, with few modifications: )
"But if a want to define "meaning" I can't find a better way than
"Intellectua
Roger,
I divided the thread in two (Democracy and Intellect) as probably it's only
the latter that needs focus.
I'm glad we reached this agreement on democracy:
You [Marco] are the greatest!! Your recent post was
awesome, and we agree in s
many ways. Let me throw out a few
. We agree on some premises:
1st:
MARCO:
Oh no! I have a great faith in DQ. Of course new economic genres will
surface. But when? Do you think we just have to stand still and wait? For
what I know, human beings can be very good vehicles for the DQ=SQ
process. Isn't it a sort of mission
has suddenly disappeared.
Did someone saved that interview in an off-line page? I would like to have
and translate it for the Italian MOQ site.
thanks,
Marco.
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real intent of the information process is to evolve.
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ill see it with your eyes. And who knows? Maybe we will meet there.
Take care of yourself. MOQers are everywhere.
Marco.
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:15:29 +0100
From: Struan Hellier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MD A qual
ning, knowledge, enlightenment... ) is seen as the prize for an
activity in which a new kind of static patterns is coded through a new kind
of machine code. But all this can't be described with language, as intellect
will eventually be blind to all this.
tks for your attention
Marco.
MOQ.
is a journey, quality is what happens; morality is the right
direction.
Any thoughts?
Marco.
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Da: Horse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Data invio: mercoledì 17 maggio 2000 1.49
Oggetto: MD Quality and Morality
Hi Jon and MD
On 14 May 2000, at 17:13,
ast quality event preconditioned the existence of current
universe (matter and mind comprised). The conclusion is that not only the
quality event is a third entity not explained by the existence of mind
and/or matter (ZAMM), but, at the contrary, the existence of mind and matter
is explained
David,
Marco wrote: "Being different isn't bad or wrong, as long as it
doesn't damage someone else's right to be different"
David: H...interesting twist. How about "Being different isn't
bad or wrong, as long as it doesn't damage someone else's right to
continue being
lse's car, that could be
really
insane. The topic was about a definition of insanity, and this is my
(obvious, I guess) definition.
What's important IMHO in Pirsig's thought is that "insanity" can be a
richness. So we must make all what's possible to understand and listen to
who's "insane&q
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