[MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-05-31 Thread mitte...@univie.ac.at
Adding more (semi)landmarks inevitably increases the spatial resolution and thus allows one to capture finer anatomical details - whether relevant to the biological question or not. This can be advantageous for the reconstruction of shapes, especially when producing 3D morphs by warping dense

RE: [MORPHMET] number of landmarks and sample size

2017-05-31 Thread F. James Rohlf
Another, though non-statistical, approach to judge whether one has an appropriate number of landmarks or perhaps too many is to use the tpsSuper software. One could start with many landmarks and confirm (one hopes) that the average unwarped image is clear implying that the landmarks have

RE: [MORPHMET] number of landmarks and sample size

2017-05-31 Thread Murat Maga
I want to chime in on Mike's comment about density of landmarking changing the effect size. Nicolas Navarro and I did something similar in context of quantitative genetics of mandible shape and came to a similar conclusion using 2D, 3D and 3D semi-landmarks sets on same dataset. Navarro N,

Re: [MORPHMET] number of landmarks and sample size

2017-05-31 Thread Mike Collyer
Dear Lea, I see others have responded to your inquiry, already. I thought I would add an additional perspective. Your question about statistical significance requires asking a follow-up question. What statistical methods would you intend to use to evaluate “significance”? If you are

Re: [MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-05-31 Thread andrea cardini
Dear All, I'd like to add a few comments on sampling (landmarks but also specimens). I hope that some of the other subscribers, who know much more than I do about morphometrics, will refine and correct my points. A very short one on my two papers. They make a very simple point: if one is