Minneapolis police to add policy in lawsuit settlement
David Chanen
Star Tribune
Published Jan. 22, 2003
As part of a lawsuit settlement,
Minneapolis officials will announce
today that police officers will be required
to take training on a state law that makes
it illegal for a store or
Dean, what will that extra $250,000 - $300,000 do, you ask? You could start by designating it to an educational program. I mean really state what it is to be used for, not drop it into a black hole within the already scary school district budget. Then you can all feel proud of yourselves. Yes,
Reiterating two oft-repeated points that have failed to connect with some of
you...
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Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Spike Moss, seeking our fair share
by Edited by Dwight Hobbes, Contributing Writer
Spike Moss is vice president of The
City, Inc., a youth service community
organization and alternative school in
Minneapolis.
Al McFarlane: Often youve been referred
to in the
I recently read A Choice of Weapons, the
autobiography of Gorden Parks, the African-American
photographer/composer/author/movie director. {Id read
his novel The Learning Tree as a teenager, and never
realized how autobioraphical it was--its about a
young African American teenager coming of age
Here's an idea!
Our sister city, Austin, Texas, has a population of 685,000 and only 7 City
Council Members.
Since we insist that everything in Minneapolis be proportionate - we only
need 3, plus the Mayor.
Minneapolis is clearly over-governed, especially if you consider the 60+
mini-councils
From Steve Brandt's article:
The city owes $6 million on the building for money borrowed to finance its
purchase, rehabilitation costs and interest.
McCaffery, who is developing nearby Block E, offered $2.5 million for the
building
.the city's cost to hold the building is $430,000 annually.
I'm not convinced that our NRP associations and
council members are part of an overgoverning
problem. Under any future scenario (and most past
scenarios), NRP's portion of the city budget will be
small. Giving neighborhoods (including their business
residents) locally determined control over one
But don't they need to get a Stribmail account?
DB
on 1/22/03 9:07 AM, Jim Mork at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure they can. Stribmail is just another website they can visit and Stribmail
doesnt generate codes.
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AOL and MSN users can't switch off HTML,
Councilmembers Goodman, Lane and Benson provided us with a lengthy
explanation of the NRP funding situation. It seems to boil down to
were broke. The tell us of a list of requests from some NRP
participants that the requests are so far from the reality we face in
this financial climate that we
I've tried to contact both the Samuels and Moore
campaigns regarding my (and many others) experiences
with the Minneapolis Police.
To give Olin Moore his due, he returned my phone call
right away, but then went on to say that he's a
labor person and that stopping the reprehensible,
bullying
Good to see a restaurant on Lowry get its due:
www.citypages.com/databank/24/1155/article11018.asp
Missing soul food in east central Minnesota,
Susan Maricle
formerly of Folwell
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Ms. Heller asks:
Who pocketed the $6 million?
When did the default occur?
Why didn't we hear about it?
How long has the building been empty?
Answers:
1) $6 million was paid largely to whoever sold the building to the
city, the contractors who did work for the city to fix the roof,
remediate
Ms. Heller likely advances her modest proposal merely as a rhetorical
device. However, at the risk of taking the proposal at face value, it
should be noted that reducing the number of Council Members to 7 or 3
would certainly result in an all-DFL Council.
Certainly this would be an unintended
Vicky, my question is how they advertised that the McCaffery building was
for sale? I do not know anyone who knew the building was up for sale. Any
building at 7th and Hennepin that has retail space for a restaurant and room
for 11 housing units has got to be worth more than 2.5 million. The
Just a quick note to correct some recent information regarding the salaries of
City Council Members.
The current City Council did NOT give Council Members a pay raise last year.
In fact, State law prohibits a sitting Council from establishing its own rate
of pay. Toward the end of each term of
Dana Bacon wrote:
I'm not convinced that our NRP associations and
council members are part of an overgoverning
problem. Under any future scenario (and most past
scenarios), NRP's portion of the city budget will be
small. Giving neighborhoods (including their business
residents) locally
Victoria Heller posts:
Our sister city, Austin, Texas, has a population of 685,000 and only 7
City
Council Members. Since we insist that everything in Minneapolis be
proportionate - we only
need 3, plus the Mayor.
Brandt: Or one could look on the bright side and consider that
Minneapolis used to
Cool. I'll broadcast this advice after work.
I assume you surf to Stribmail from within the AOL interface?
Thanks,
DB
on 1/22/03 9:20 AM, Jim Mork at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Getting one is NOTHING. Took me a minute or two.
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But don't they need to get a
OK, here's the explanation of the previous note that should have gone only
to Jim Mork.
Jim - bless him - is trying to help figure out a way that AOL and MSN users
can post in plain-text (since the AOL MSN software won't let you do it.)
Jim's suggestion is to sign up for a Stribmail account -
An obvious question: how to sign up for stribmail?
See http://www.startribune.com/stribmail/
And to make it easier for those who want to go this route, let me know and
I'll switch your list subscription.
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An obvious question: how to sign up for stribmail?
See http://www.startribune.com/stribmail/
Maybe it's the registration center on the left sidebar? I didn't try
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Thomas T. Thai
Whittier
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We do not need this project. If Allina wants it, pony up the $153
million
and build your road.
We need transportation alternatives. I want my tax dollars to go to
non-polluting means of travel - vehicle exhaust causes cancer. Carbon
dioxide is not good for you to breath. Put this money
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Jim - bless him - is trying to help figure out a way that AOL and MSN
If there is a searchable archive of the list, a while back I posted
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I want to echo Terrell Brown's comments that the uncoated language from
these three council members is necessary at this juncture. One thing I
found interesting is the reminder that:
the purpose of NRP was to provide service re-design and to
better integrate neighborhood planning into all
I'd like to commend Goodman, Lane and Benson for thoroughly explaining the
financial constraints facing NRP and the city. The picture isn't pretty, but
I think they've clearly laid out the framework in which a solution must be
found. Those working to save NRP are going to have to work within the
Vicky, my question is how they advertised that the McCaffery building was
for sale? I do not know anyone who knew the building was up for sale.
Any
building at 7th and Hennepin that has retail space for a restaurant and
room
for 11 housing units has got to be worth more than 2.5 million.
The city has to quit buying high and selling low, no matter how noble the
motives might be.
Or maybe more precisely, the city should only subsidize a project if it can
clearly demonstrate that the return on its investment is greater than it
would be if it did nothing.
If the city subsidizes one
And Austin, along with many other Texas cities were taken to court under the
Voters Rights Act, because their municipal elections systems were considered
purposely racist with all at-large city councils that kept white people in
power despite the almost even population split of whites and people
Chances are, Pope's was located around Lyndale and Plymouth. Before the
freeway and urban renewal, this area had many bars and night clubs.
Cozy's
and theBlue Note were two of the last. My grandfather owned a
coal
company and my father used to talk about delivering coal to the
In response to questions regarding the selection of
Smith Parker and SEH to work on the I-35W Access
Project (no bidding process for SEH), Tom Johnson
wrote:
David, Please contact Jim Grube, Director of
Transportation regarding the contracting with Smith
Parker to manage the I-35W Access Project.
I have been in Texas a lot and I know that not only are the
Latinos -in Austin and other towns- a big part of the populace from a long
ways back but they all get along awfully well with whatever Germans or other
'Anglos' -and have, since the Texans took it away from the Mexicans -shortly
David,
Again, you and other interested residents need to contact Jim Grube
regarding the contracting processes. The Southwest Journal article was very
accurate regarding most subject areas, but Scott McBride never officed at
Smith Parker. He was an OSM employee and then later an employee of SEH.
I meant my last post as dealing with what I see as misinformation in
discussion of local city representation, -and the comparisons with other
states and cities. Other than for that purpose it would have been totally
not germane.
And while I am at it, in Texas, huge amount of families,
All three councilmembers -- Goodman, Lane and Benson -- should be commended
for their candor and analysis. I think their coherent explanation reflects
a high degree of respect for the members of this list, whatever its merits,
something that should probably happen more frequently by other
Michael Atherton:
Let's not forget that it's the people
who show up that run the NRP programs and that participation and representation have
been and still are an ongoing problem (or in my opinion an inherent flaw of the NRP).
Um, it is the most DIRECT democracy offered anywhere in the world.
In response to Tamir,
Let me apologise for any negligence on my part for not responding to your
call. I have no recollection of your call or of receiving any message
regarding your call. But, please understand, these are hectic times for me,
and there seems to have been an oversight.
I have
John has some goods points here. Most of my neighbors are really
concerned
that we are going to lose any meaningful input into the decisions
concerning
our neighborhood. Many of us are skeptical that downtown knows what's
best
for us ( go figure ). One way this could be alleviated is if
John I have to make a clarification on the Sowles building issues and Urban Village. Initially the figures were no where near that much. Unfortunately because of the leaden feet of the MCDA over the last four years the project has gone up in cost. If the agency had executed on this deal in the
You're doing a lot of work to tie 35W into illegalities at MNDOT and
certainly the illegalities are rife, it would appear. From everything
in the Strib, at least one person at MNDOT clearly nailed it as
arrogance on MNDOT's part and failure in MN Administration to be able to
make MNDOT
Vicky's idea here is as senseless as Jesse Ventura's unicameral plan.
Reducing the number of elected representatives just makes it much
harder to reach them. Here
in Minneapolis, you can call your city council member, and speak directly
to them, or get a call back within a couple of
Tom Johnson's career as related by the SW Journal follows. I think it is
clear that Johnson has some mighty connections streching from MnDOT, to
corporations, to the federal level, and to Hennepin County. I should be so
low down the food chain. . . .
He has public relations, marketing, and
Jonathan Palmer's message yesterday contains some unfair accusations
that tell only half the story. Jonathan is covering over the fact that he
and the Samuels campaign haven't always played by the rules.
(I am not getting into the issue of union printers. The DFL Party
does not
Perhaps a year ago (even longer?), I received an email with a link to a
web-based survey about the uses and purposes of the Minneapolis List. I
assumed it was sponsored by the List itself, but David (off-list) tells
me not so. I would like to track down the folks who designed it and
find out
Steve Marchese writes in part ...I would appreciate hearing from
listmembers who are better versed on NRP so we can all learn how this
proposal will both affect community organizations and to suggest how we
can address the underlying fiscal problems in a constructive manner.
There are economies
Platforms and websites can be crafted by people like me who have a way
with words. I've been at this since the 1960s. I offer the example of
the current United States President as an example of someone in public
office who needs all the help scriptwriters can give him. Doesn't make
him bad on the
Greg Luce wrote:
I have a few questions that I hope can be answered:
1. I was unaware that we were running a deficit through NRP funding, which
appears to be related to the bonds issued to fund NRP. Could we get more
specifics on this?
[In 1990 a number of tax increment districts were
Jim Mork wrote in regards to the NRP:
Um, it is the most DIRECT democracy offered anywhere in the
world. Unlike voting in Florida, you CANNOT be removed from
a list by the Secretary of State with no recourse. I would
be in favor of ID checks in order to vote (so strangers from
another
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3 Council Members NRP Commentary
JLS--I wish to thank Council Members Goodman, Lane and Benson for putting
together their straight talk about the NRP in view of the poor financial
situation in which the City of Minneapolis and its taxpayers/stakeholders
find themselves in January 2003. I hope
Well, I guess I won't trouble myself with Michael's answer about democracy. I think
he really needs a dictionary to sort out the confusion between representation and
democracy (they aren't the same thing).
And the socalled professionalism of elected representatives is NOT a cure-all for
public
As long as we're on the subject of "trivial crimes" as they relate to the current 3rd ward campaign, maybe the city dfl could cruise down Lowry Ave between Washington Ave., and Penn Ave., and verify the legality of the campaign signs posted at the business properties. I'm sure this has already
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