Once again, when anyone disagrees with him, Michael A decides to call
that person a racist, and a segregationist.
He doesn't seem to feel any desire to engage in answering my question
which was to ask how do we get teachers to WANT to take on the
challenge of high-poverty schools? Name-calling
EK == Ed Kohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
EK I'm still trying to understand the resistance to the Lagoon
EK Project.
Here are four reasons why I resist the project:
1. It seems to reflect a capricious flouting of the existing zoning
ordinances and planning. I don't want to see
Terrell == Terrell Brown Terrell writes:
Terrell - Original Message -
Terrell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terrell To: Ed Kohler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BTW, David Greene has been suggesting that tons of people are going to
be moving in in the near future. Is this
SB == Steve Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB I have to agree with Michael Atherton on this one. Buzzy Bohn
SB is correct that some very dedicated senior teachers choose to
SB remain in high-poverty schools. North Star school in the
SB Jordan neighborhood is an excellent
TB == Terrell Brown Terrell writes:
[...snip...]
TB The Lake Calhoun area has many taller buildings. Lake Point
TB is 20 stories (242 feet), Calhoun Towers is 21 stories (191
TB feet), Calhoun Beach Club 9 stories (118 feet), the new
TB Calhoun Beach apartments come in at 12
DG == David Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DG Andy Driscoll wrote:
Cause it ain't about the money, but about a quality of life that was
threatened by overbuilding, overdeveloping.
Why don't people get this stuff: that it cannot always be about the
potential money.
DB == David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB My pithy view:
DB The difference between 10 stories and 13 is trivial. I favor density.
DB Traffic/environmental is the bigger problem. Fact is, we don't have a
DB reliably funded transit system to make people believe we can be
WM == wmmarks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WM Listers,
WM In this broiling weather, remember that all MPL branches are
WM air-conditioned and you can stay till closing.
And the Hennepin County libraries offer free wireless internet access
on top of air-conditioning
Now if only I
I don't know whether this was just meant as a stick to beat the
smoking ban with, or whether it was serious.
If it was serious, then those motorcycles were modified to make them
noisier. They should be just as citable as people with boom-cars.
Unfortunately, they are probably just as likely to
JH == John Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The biggest downside to me of this investment is that I don't see firm
commitments from the team to provide affordable seats, and I don't see
any way our investment can be protected against major league baseball
going on a
Thanks to Mark for a very thoughtful, interesting and persuasive
posting.
As an aside, seems like a lot of the complaints have come from Duplex
owners. I don't mean to be too unsympathetic, but really, duplex
owners get a pretty sweet deal from the city in terms of taxes, etc.
I think it's a
JH == John Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2. I would be a lot more in favor of this deal if there was some
commitment to providing some cheap bleacher seats for the people
whose tax dollars went into the stadium. I'm afraid that we might
end up with one of those new
I had one question and one comment about this deal:
1. What happens if the league contracts? Do we get left holding the
bag for this stadium? Can we do anything to keep major league
baseball from closing the Twins franchise?
2. I would be a lot more in favor of this deal if there
EY == Eva Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AD Andy Driscoll writes:
AD The DFL is long overdue for instituting multiple endorsements
AD when a single endorsement would be divisive, and relying on
AD the primary to sort out which candidate DFL voters and not
AD just delegates
Architecture Review | Walker Art Center: An Expansion Gives New Life to an Old
Box
By NICOLAI OUROUSSOFF
http://tinyurl.com/al9l3
and
Art Review: Probing Fringes, Finding Stars
By HOLLAND COTTER
http://tinyurl.com/7lquc
--
Robert P. Goldman
ECCO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REMINDERS:
1. Be civil!
DRG == Dorie Rae Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DRG - Original Message -
DRG From: Derek Burrows Reise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DRG To: mpls@mnforum.org
DRG Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:59 PM
DRG Subject: [Mpls] Restructuring Mpls School Board
Posted at
Thanks to Derek for a very thoughtful response to my email and, even
better, one that brought some new facts to the discussion. He's gone
a long way to convincing me...
DBR == Derek Burrows Reise [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...snip...]
Derek points out that it would be hard to get the bad
gg == gemgram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
gg The laws against sleeping outside are aimed only at the
gg homeless who have no where else to sleep. When was the last
gg time a Homed someone was arrested for sleeping while sitting
gg on a park bench? When was the last time a homed
By and large, I think that Mineapolis offers a wealth of opportunities
for kids, including young children. However, there is one area where
I think we're lacking: indoor areas that offer children exercise
opportunities. Especially with smaller, younger children, who don't
yet have a lot of body
I'm inclined to favor mass-transit, but there's some disturbing
research on why Americans tend not to use it. I grew up in a New York
suburb, and the train was a fabulous means of transit. For all those
Dads who went in to work and came home. But now we have lots of
two-earner homes, where
Dan == Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AG:
This is pure speculation on my part. I figured the real
problem with the traffic lights on 55 is that they haven't dug
up the streets to install proper traffic sensing equipment so
the signals can function according to cars that
WLDJ == WLDJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WLDJ To again keep this local, we need to
WLDJ discuss ways to reduce Minneapolis premiums such as,
WLDJ discouraging speeding and red light running, encouraging
WLDJ police investigations of hit and run vehicle damage
WLDJ accidents,
A.J. is, of course, right, and I was wrong. Typed too soon.
I think it's pretty odd that Minneapolis would be offering better
service than the commercial alternative, for less. I had just
(wrongly) assumed it would be likely to be a little worse, but cheaper.
No wonder Qwest and the cable
Mr. Atherton's use of name-calling (racist, segregation) in this
message, in my opinion, crosses the boundaries of polite discourse
and, possibly, the rules of conduct for this list.
It's hard for me to see how we will ever form a coalition of concerned
citizens to build a better school system
Dan == Dan McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David On Feb 14, 2005, at 7:33 AM, Michael Atherton wrote:
a) Nothing has been done about the problem of there
being a disproportionate number of inexperienced teachers
in minority schools. A problem that everyone
David == David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David On Feb 14, 2005, at 7:33 AM, Michael Atherton wrote:
a) Nothing has been done about the problem of there
being a disproportionate number of inexperienced teachers
in minority schools. A problem that everyone acknowledges
MH == Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MH You heard my take on the issue prior to the vote (my [Mpls]
MH Tax Increment Financing (TIF) policy in Mpls. post of 2/10).
MH There are alternatives to a regressive sales tax increase.
MH It's a matter of spending priorities.
MT == Michael Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MT Just because the industry may be engaging in typical
MT arguments and overwrought warnings of terrible consequences
MT that come from any industry when legislation is proposed to
MT curb that industry's pollution doesn't
Dorian == Dorian Eder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dorian I share some of your concerns about PR. Especially as a
Dorian resident of Northeast, which is already seriously
Dorian under-represented in local government at-large bodies, I
Dorian fear the Southwest would simply
Dan == Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan (8) Operation of a mobile refrigeration unit while stopped,
Dan standing or parked outside of an insulated building in a
Dan residentially used area between the hours of 10:00
Dan p.m. and 6:00 a.m.
Dan WOW! The
GL == Gregory Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GL In the middle of this discussion, I happened to pick up an
GL excellent feature article in The Rake about public libraries
GL in general and local libraries specifically, with discussion
GL about the Minneapolis Central Library:
MT == Michael Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MT Like it or not, the police do make split-second decisions on
MT the street when working with the mentally ill.
[...]
MT To make this a MPLS issue, look at the case of the Somali man
MT a couple of years ago. Completely
DW == David Weinlick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DW On Saturday, January 29, 2005, at 04:17 PM, Michael Atherton wrote:
about the school or its curriculum. What strikes me as
important is that this Math/Science Magnet has only 42%
of third graders rated as proficient in Math.
I was wondering if anyone on the list has been reviewing the MPS food
offerings. In particular, I have on occasion looked over the school
breakfast program, and the menus seem to me appalling. I know that
one wants the kids to actually EAT the food, and I know that we are
worried about kids who
Barbara == Barbara Lickness [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Barbara The introduction of the IB/PYP program at Whittier now
Barbara offers parents an opportunity to give their children a
Barbara seamless education in IB throughout grade
Barbara school. Currently, the middle school IB
GH == Gary Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GH I submit that the expansion of the Mpls/St. Paul airport is a
GH terrible waste of resources. I also submit that we must spend
GH our transportation dollars on energy-efficient urban design
GH and transportation modes. Consider
DJR == David J Rust David writes:
DJR On Jan 20, 2005, at 3:44 PM, Leurquin, Ronald wrote:
Does anyone know the status of the much discussed camera cops for
ticketing persons running red lights? I personally am hoping we get
them sooner rather than later. I was privileged
OK, I think my scatter-shot ramblings obscured my central point in a
lot of drivel. Let me restate it, because I think it was
missed in your response to me (which had a bunch of good points).
Cameras that ONLY TAKE PICTURES OF TRAFFIC OFFENDERS are a feasible
and widely-used (elsewhere)
Dan == Dan McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan List Manager wrote:
Appropros the recent list debate...and the story also covers the
Northeast-Waite Park situation and North Star-Jordan Park.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1592/5191359.html
David Brauer
I'd like to thank Annie Young and John Erwin for weighing in on this
discussion, and explaining some of the decision factors. And for
having the forthrightness to admit that the decision might have been a
mistake.
--
Robert P. Goldman
ECCO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REMINDERS:
1. Be civil! Please read
Thanks to Dennis for weighing in with an insider's view about the
school closings issue. I understand his frustration with the level of
rumor- and conspiracy-mongering that's come along with this issue.
But having been on the other side of the issue, I'd have to say that
members of the Board
Aaron == Aaron Klemz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aaron I won't even address #4 (a la David Shove's post)
Aaron since it is so clearly a poor argument. Practically
Aaron every city except for Minneapolis in the nation does
Aaron just fine with one police department. Suggesting the
MS == Mark Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MS Hi all,
MS I've seen a few people make comments about the forthcoming
MS rate increase that has been proposed by Minnegasco.
MS While I understand that this will result in higher gas bills for some
MS residential folks, I think
It's perhaps worth pointing out around now that this entire country's
governmental system is based on criteria other than avoid duplicating
services. The whole notion of checks and balances inherently forces
us to duplicate services. After all, to pick a real strawman, we
could just have the
ms == mike skoglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ms I am really confused about this.
ms See, this is what I don't get -- he had already been granted
ms asylum by CANADA in 1991, so apparently he'd already been out
ms of danger for seven years when he made these misstatements on
I don't think that this proposed ordinance is as dumb as Jason claims.
If I understand his argument correctly, the ordinance is dumb because
it should REALLY be addressing either
1. noise pollution or
2. air pollution or
3. both
He proposes as a reductio ad absurdum for #2 that we have an
MA == Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MA Jason Goray wrote:
Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is mostly
likely the correct one.
Not! Occam's Razor suggests that an equally
accurate, but simpler explanation is preferable to a
more
These are interesting proposals by Mike. Here are a couple of
potential snags, though, that would have to be worked out:
MJ == Mike Jensvold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MJ Deregulate Taxis (at least partially). People shouldn't have
MJ to pay $4 to go half a mile to the grocery store.
I want to come to Rep. Kahn's defense a little bit here. To the best
of my understanding, what she has said is that the MPRA has this city
over a barrel, and that the city is going to have to offer them
something in exchange for changes in the pension agreement that would
help us get out from
[I was going to let this obvious flame-bait go, but couldn't help
myself...]
Victoria == Victoria Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Victoria I hope several lawsuits are filed against the City on
Victoria the basis of an illegal taking. This is a private
Victoria property rights
dyna == dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dyna Our School Board seems afflicted with this municipal
dyna myopia too- are they even aware that they own a radio
dyna station that blankets the metro area and beyond with
dyna it's signal? Do they realize that
RM == Ray Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RM What benefit does a jazz station have for the vast majority of
RM Minneapolis students. I would guess extremely few listen to
RM jazz.
One problem with this argument is that it can easily be extended to
paintings, theater, or even
A bunch of people have said that they don't like the additional sales
tax for two reasons:
1. It will drive more shopping out of the city and
2. It's another regressive tax.
#2 seems like a real concern, but the city may have been boxed into
this --- hasn't the state taken away a lot of our
EW == Elizabeth Wielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
EW Joan Berthiaume and Ted Wirth wrote...
The independence of the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board is the
reason they can protect these beautiful public spaces from the
priorities
of city business. It is
Aaron == Aaron Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think thatthere are at least three more reasons to be opposed to PR:
1. In Minneapolis, people who live together tend to have the same
concerns, so representing them regionally makes
Tamir makes some excellent points about the problem of proportional
representation driving out non-party-aligned candidates. I think that
there are at least three more reasons to be opposed to PR:
1. In Minneapolis, people who live together tend to have the same
concerns, so representing
Liz == Elizabeth Wielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LizThis is a darn shame. KBEM is the only source of local bluegrass
Liz programming (Sat am 8-noon). It is a small market to be sure, but
Liz still a market. I guess it is time to buy that satellite radio.
NOOO!
Dan == Dan McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan http://www.startribune.com/stories/1405/5131594.html I am
Dan skeptical of Pawlenty's plan to copy Edmonton. They have a
Dan very different system and population - parochial schools get
Dan public funding in Canada. He mentioned
Gary == Gary Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gary Can city government effectively address these issues without
Gary careful partnership with other metro suburbs, counties, and
Gary the state? If we compete and try to externalize the costs
Gary onto each other, who benefits, and
WM == wizardmarks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WM Jeff Rosenberg wrote:
What I find most interesting about this, and what I'd like to
question, is the underlying assumption behind these
statements. Specifically, that Minneapolis has an obligation to
the poor and to create
Rick == Rick Mons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that the suburbs and exurbs
are already dumping their social problems into the cities for us to
pay for.
Rick It's not clear to me how suburbs dump their social problems
Rick
MN == Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MN Dorothy J. TItus states, in part...
...And now Center Point Energy proposes a gas rate hike that
will raise residential gas costs by 4% while raising business costs
by only 1%. And this comes on top of gas prices that are
Seems like we've got two strands of outrage going on simultaneously:
taxpayers, particularly business owners, complaining about how much
city waste there is; and others complaining that the city is not doing
enough to get services to the poor. Maybe the fact that there's
outrage from both sides
RH == rhalfhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RHAs Tim Bonham should know, the touch screen voting machines in the
RH2004 election did not provide a paper trail that could be audited.
RHThe United States was a laughing stock in an underdeveloped country
RHlike
I felt like someone ought to weigh in as a skeptic about these new
voting schemes. There are a bunch of reasons why I'm not enthralled
with the idea of IRV (and even less by proportional representation):
1. It seems to me that a lot of people want IRV because they feel
like voting should
MH == Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MH It would be interesting to compare the initial recommendations
MH of David Jennings regarding the proposed school closings with
MH the results now recommended by the consultants and likely to
MH be approved by the Board. What was
DS == David Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DS I'm curious if 17 cents would be similiar to the
DS expense to Minneapolis. Can our resident waste
DS specialist on the list find out this information for
DS us?
DS I've heard the argument that plastic bags take less
DS
Since I've been asked, I am pleased that Jefferson has survived the
axe. We have already heard from people who feel that it would be a
very good thing if some schools were closed. Based on my experience
watching this process (I was, unfortunately, out of town on the day of
the most recent
TONY == TONY SCALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TONY I am fascinated by the responses by Robert Goldman and Liz
TONY Wielinski. First, I have read the resumes. I do not see
TONY that either candidate has a Masters Degree in the public
TONY resumes. Maybe I missed something.
TS == TONY SCALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TS If it is not the lack of a Masters degree, what makes Jon
TS Gurban not as qualified? I have reviewed the resumes of both
TS candidates. I do not find the kind of differences that calls
TS for Gurban to be described as not as
Dan == Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan Trying to force ones view on everyone else is fascism.
Dan Dan McGrath
Dan Longfellow
Dan http://www.smokeoutgary.org
OK, I'd like to invoke Godwin's law on this posting. Viz [from the
Wikipedia]:
Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of
JE == John Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JE There has been quite a bit of discussion on this list about
JE the current search and I just wanted to weigh in on a couple
JE of issues.
JE First, There was recent a criticism of the Oldani Group and
JE the job they have done
OK, I'd just like to say some words in defense of MPL, because I think
WM's remarks are not entirely fair. I'm not saying malicious, but I
don't think that they take into account the way the library functions
or Niziolek's intentions in the dual-use plan. See below:
WM == wizardmarks [EMAIL
Steven == Steven Houdek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steven I think it's totally senseless for bikers to use a parkway
Steven when a bike path is next to them. Isn't that what it's
Steven for? Bicycles? The bikes paths around lakes such as
Steven Nokomis are just that: Bike paths.
I'm afraid I don't have time to give this the full attention that it
deserves today, but here are some preliminary comments:
Eli == Eli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eli Didn't anybody catch the article in Star Tribune on the
Eli Saturday that the district was considering or plan to
Steve == Steve Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Are there any other bikers out there who would like to see
Steve some enforcement of the one-way direction of downtown bike
Steve lanes? I'm tired of having bikers disregard the
Steve directions. It gives me a choice between
Michael == Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael Robert P. Goldman wrote:
The result of these two processes, in my opinion, is that no one is
trying to present the details of the plan to the community or to
engage the community and convince us that they are making
Dan == Dan McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan I attended the meeting last Tuesday at Edison. Both
Dan Webster and
Dan Waite Park were well represented with compelling advocacy for
Dan their programs. There was no response to my one question,
Dan 'what will
As the parent of a couple of MPS students, I'd encourage us to focus
on what the school district could or should be doing about this
bullying issue. It's tempting to fall into arguments about whether it
is the fault of liberals and the 1960s, or capitalism and violent
television, but it's not
Michael == Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael To me the most horrific part of this story is Eleanor
Michael Coleman's interview. Bureaucratic indifference can
Michael be a pretty scary thing at times and it amounts to it's
Michael own kind of bullying with
I am planning to write a letter to the Star-Tribune about the school
closing decision process. I am very much concerned not to be unfair
to the board, so here is my perspective on the process. If you see
anything obviously inaccurate or unfair, please beat me up here or in
private email
I am new to this process, so I wonder if anyone on the list could
enlighten me about the process. If I understand the proposed process
correctly, the intention is to have the consultants present their
school closing recommendations on the 5th or so, followed by a
preliminary decision from the
I was just wondering as I looked over the candidates for HCC; is there
some reason there are no DFL candidates for these posts? Each
position open for election has a Republican candidate and no DFL
candidate. Would someone with some insight be so kind as to explain
why?
Thanks!
R
--
Robert
AM == Alberto Monserrate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AM I've been following with great disappointment the previous
AM posts on whether Peggy Flanagan was endorsed by the DFL only
AM because she is Native American. It's amazing that we're having
AM this discussion in 2004. Gente de
With all due respect to Mr. Atherton, As a parent of public school
children, I haven't seen a lot of evidence of public school employees
being obstacles to my children's education. My experience is pretty
limited to Jefferson Community school, but I have been very, very
impressed with the
DB == David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DB Having edited six stories on School Board candidates, I'm not
DB sure I find any basket of issue positions to be especially
DB distinctive.
DB David Dayhoff is a more distinctly independent from the
DB unions, but aside from
Can anyone explain to me in the most clear and simple terms the
rationale for the school closings. I *thought* I understood. But now
I read the following in the Southwest Journal ( see
http://www.swjournal.com/articles/2004/10/21/news/news01.txt ) :
[Board member Joseph Erickson] adds that
MA == Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MA Robert P. Goldman wrote:
With all due respect to Mr. Atherton, As a parent of public school
children, I haven't seen a lot of evidence of public school employees
being obstacles to my children's education. My experience is
sb == Steve Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sb But the estimate was that we would save one-half
sb of 1 percent of our budget this year if we did that closing plan,
sb Your conclusion depends on whether you consider $3 million significant
sb or not.
Thanks for the quick
89 matches
Mail list logo
