Re: [Mpls] Mpls school cuts... follow the money

2003-06-08 Thread Joseph A. Erickson
Ms. Introwitz Pareene: We are all frustrated at the number of teachers being cut this year, but you're following the wrong tack here. It's the revenue, not the spending, that's the problem. This year's budget cuts are the third consecutive year of cuts for MPS, a three year tally of nearly $100

[Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Shawn Lewis
Police investigate alleged brutality by bike cop Published June 8, 2003 http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3924789.html MINNEAPOLIS: Police probe alleged incident of brutality BY AMY MAYRON Pioneer Press Posted on Sat, Jun. 07, 2003

[Mpls] School Costs

2003-06-08 Thread Jim Mork
What JOseph Erickson posted regarding the level of overhead in the system was enlightening. But what I'd also like to see is the per student cost over the last 20 years in constant dollars. Relative to inflation, are we paying more to educate a student? And what would be the main reasons? Are

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Peter T Schmitz
Given that the boy's aunt is an aide to Mayor Rybak, we might see some justice here, otherwise this incident would be ignored by City Hall and our local news media (with the exception of City Pages and Pulse). In any case, there have been far too many incidents of abuses by the Minneapolis

[Mpls] Introduction

2003-06-08 Thread Brian Fesler
Hello, I have been on the list for a week or two and like how the discussion usually stays on-subject and away from flames. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Brian Fesler. Iwork for a downtown church and am a musician. I lived 5 years in Stevens Square, then 4 years ago moved

[Mpls] Does Minneapolis expect kids to pick their future career in eighth grade?

2003-06-08 Thread Anderson Turpin
I looked at the applications to high school on the first link below. It is amazing what narrow choices the schools expect eighth graders to make when applying for high schools. I've heard through the grape vine that the actual experience in the high schools isn't nearly so narrow as the

[Mpls] Each gov't entity only tax for its own needs?

2003-06-08 Thread Anderson Turpin
Ronald Leurquin wrote: BTW, no one on here has seen fit to respond to my tax proposal of letting each government body tax income for its needs, and only its needs. Feds for feds, state for state, county for eh county, and the city for the city. That would end the need to Aid for Cities the

RE: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread FNA
The posted letter is one side of the story; perhaps we should wait to hear both sides, before commenting. Roberta Englund Folwell Neighborhood -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter T Schmitz Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL

[Mpls] Economy and Housing

2003-06-08 Thread Victoria Heller
It is heartening to see more listmembers paying attention to economic conditions: [Mork] Then the article in the Homes section said low interest rates were reducing the potential market of renters at the same time as 1,600 new apartments were coming on line (no building?) [Heller] Remember that

RE: [Mpls] Each gov't entity only tax for its own needs?

2003-06-08 Thread Rick Mons
Anderson Turpin wrote: Ronald Leurquin wrote: BTW, no one on here has seen fit to respond to my tax proposal of letting each government body tax income for its needs, and only its needs. Feds for feds, state for state, county for eh county, and the city for the city. Are you saying

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Michelle Gross
I'm glad that this issue is getting the coverage it deserves. However, it is clear that this is happening only because the young man involved is the nephew of Kinshasha Kambui, aide to the mayor. At the same time this was happening to the young man, we probably got calls on our hotline of

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Dennis Plante
Michelle: Apparently there are two people with the same name working in the Mayor's office. The Kinshasa Kambui I know cares very deeply and has worked very hard on the issue of civil rights. To suggest that she is not concerned about the issue of civil rights, because she may not have agreed

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread WizardMarks
Peter T Schmitz wrote: Given current economic conditions, the city cannot afford anymore law suits. Nor cannot it afford the race riots that are sure to come. WM: Let's not be jumping to any contusions here. According to the Strib and PiPress, the police department immediately got Lt.Val

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Michelle Gross
The role that Ms. Kambui played is significantly different that just disagreeing with the proposed structure of federal mediation (which, under DOJ protocols calls for the community, not the city, to select its representation). Her role has been to undermine that potential avenue for change by

Re: [Mpls] My son who was beaten last Friday by the Minneapolis police

2003-06-08 Thread ken bradley
Hello Titilayo Bediako and Minneapolis Folks: This is a very disturbing story that makes my stomach turn. I would hope several of the reporters that participate in this list will investigate this incident and write more about it. Ken Bradley Corcoran Neighborhood --- Shawn Lewis [EMAIL

RE: [Mpls] Economy and Housing

2003-06-08 Thread David Brauer
Vickie Heller writes: [Heller] Not really. Adjusted for inflation, house prices are the same as they were seventeen years ago. A book was just published, The Coming Crash in the Housing Market by John Talbot - check it out at Amazon.com. Well, good luck to Mr. Talbot. His reasoning

[Mpls] Poice brutality and harassment re: people who are homeless

2003-06-08 Thread m1r3201
A friend of mine said he e-mailed Council Member Lisa Goodman asking for a moratorium on the no camping laws so people who are homeless will not be harassed by the police to keep moving on, having camp sites destroyed and abuse delivered. If my friend misquoted Ms. Goodman, I hope she corrects

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Dennis Plante
Okay, so let me get this straight. Because an entity is "beholden to the City" (a yet as undefined term), their voice has no credibility in the process of mediation? Who determined this? Those that wanted to take part and had never received financial (or other) assistance? It appears to

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Jhpalmerjp
Michelle, I've generally been supportive of your positions, but this is one time that youare way off base with this, to the point of being absurd and offensive. You made a lot of accussations in these last emails and for someone who doesn't know Kinshasha, nor the inner workings of the Mayor's

[Mpls] career tracking in MPS: not!

2003-06-08 Thread Linda Higgins
Anderson Turpin commented on the information recently disseminated by the Maple River Education Coalition about Mpls schools. I contacted Jim Grathwol, the legislative liason forMPS, for a reply. It follows. Please note Jim's paragraph about his efforts to get MREdCo to stop disseminating

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread David Shove
So who are the possible candidates to replace RT? DFL, Green, GOP, Independent, Libertarian... Starting the talk now would put pressure on RT, let lots of candidates come forward, and give people lots of time to assess them. Make democracy work. --David Shove Roseville On Sun, 8 Jun 2003,

[Mpls] Re: Target

2003-06-08 Thread Tim Bonham
Frankly, I've never thought I had much privacy when walking down Nicollet Ave! Tim Bonham, Ward 12, Standish-Ericsson Do you supporters really think it's worth the loss of your privacy to put cameras on the street corner . . . Andy Driscoll Saint Paul TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the

RE: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Eric Oines
It always interests me that when the perpetrator of a crime is a police officer, we are always encouraged to wait for the other side (or, in most cases, wait for it to be swept under the rug, buried in the back of the metro section, lost in the beauracracy of Internal Affairs, referred to a

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread 3womenwalking
Peter writes: For once we're getting the victim's side of the story, but that's because his aunt is an aide to Mayor Rybak. Not true, that is not a fact but your opinion. I heard about it because Shawn Lewis posted the story and letter on this forum. Martha Sandberg Kingfield TEMPORARY

[Mpls] Why no assault charges filed?

2003-06-08 Thread Tim Bonham
Another disturbing part of this incident was the refusal by the desk sergeant to take a report from the mother, and initiate appropriate action. If this story is true, the officer involved should be charged with assault! And this Sergeant Young, who refused to accept a report from a citizen,

Re: [Mpls] Media coverage of bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Peter T Schmitz
Natalie Johnson Lee, Ron Edwards and Lisa McDonald seem like good possibilities. For City Council we need successful small business owners like Kim Bartmann (owner of Bryant Lake Bowl and Cafe Barbette) and activists from Stride and Communities United Against Police Brutality, as well as those

[Mpls] Target and Cub

2003-06-08 Thread Mark Snyder
It's been interesting to read the various posts about the Target on West Broadway closing and the possibility of a Cub Foods opening on Central Ave. While I have become no great fan of big box retail in recent years, I do agree with those who see the Target closing as yet another kick in the

RE: [Mpls] Economy and Housing

2003-06-08 Thread Rick Mons
Victoria Heller writes: [Mork] But if a person owns a house and can hold ONTO it, suddenly it appreciates like nobody's business. [Heller] Not really. Adjusted for inflation, house prices are the same as they were seventeen years ago. A book was just published, The Coming Crash in the

[Mpls] Re: Target and Cub

2003-06-08 Thread Tim Bonham
A small store will be very lacking in stockroom storage space, compared to what is provided in newly-built stores. Thus they won't be able to store as much in back to restock shelves, and so when items sell out the shelves stay empty until the next supply truck arrives. So Target's claim that

[Mpls] Economy and Housing

2003-06-08 Thread Victoria Heller
Rick Mons inquires: I'm not sure where you -- or the author you quote -- are getting your data. Vicky replies: I was quoting the book author, John Talbot, who was interviewed on CNBC last week. I am sure that he was using national data, but I do not know his source. In many markets, real

RE: [Mpls] Economy and Housing

2003-06-08 Thread David Brauer
Vicky writes: I was quoting the book author, John Talbot, who was interviewed on CNBC last week. I am sure that he was using national data, but I do not know his source. In many markets, real estate prices have already dropped significantly. In Minneapolis for example, City Center's value

[Mpls] Real Estate Inflation;Police Beat Boy

2003-06-08 Thread Jim Mork
If the price of real estate goes down when costs go up, why does the price of real estate EVER go up? Have you ever seen a time when the costs of real estate went down? The only instance I can think of was when the state started picking up some of the public expenses formerly handled by property

[Mpls] This Week in The Minneapolis Observer

2003-06-08 Thread Craig Cox
T H E M I N N E A P O L I S O B S E R V E R A Weekly Digest of All Things Minneapolitan www.mplsobserver.com Vol. 2, No. 42 June 9, 2003 ** THIS WEEK IN THE OBSERVER: * City Vying with St. Paul for New Allina Headquarters * Local

Re: [Mpls] Bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread Andy Driscoll
Here we go again. Same story. Same debate. No action for the long term. The Minneapolis Police Department continues with its infestation by thumpers and their defenders, who may or may not also be thumpers. There are too many thumpers and too many thumpings in this and all cities by police

[Mpls] Netiquette

2003-06-08 Thread List Manager
Please delete the previous message you are responding to. If you need to quote sections of a previous post, cut and paste into your post. Lots of repeated text makes hard reading and longer downloads for our digest readers. Thanks, David Brauer List manager TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the

Re: [Mpls] Re: Target and Cub

2003-06-08 Thread Mark Snyder
On 6/8/03 6:52 PM, Tim Bonham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A small store will be very lacking in stockroom storage space, compared to what is provided in newly-built stores. Thus they won't be able to store as much in back to restock shelves, and so when items sell out the shelves stay empty

Re: [Mpls] Bike patrol officer and young boy

2003-06-08 Thread WizardMarks
Andy Driscoll wrote: Many police officers may be wonderful, but they are outnumbered in Minneapolis by those who are not WM: I don't think they are outnumbered, but they are outflanked. and they also would rather circle their wagons around the brotherhood than to address the decay and