Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct/Police Oversight System

2000-11-29 Thread Rosalind Nelson
It's tough for an ordinary citizen to know what needs to change systematically when we are in the dark as to what systematic problems are at the root of the police actions. Regarding Civilian Review, I believe that they were originally set up to address isolated instances of excessive force.

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-28 Thread Andy Driscoll
g/Graphics/Strategic Development 835 Linwood Ave. St. Paul, MN 55105 651-293-9039 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Dave Stack" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:51:10 -0600 To: "Multiple recipients of list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proposal to

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct/Park Police

2000-11-28 Thread Carol Becker
Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: RE: Proposal to discuss police conduct Rich McMartin sets out a wild and provocative suggestion that perhaps we should just abolish the police force in Minneapolis and see

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-25 Thread Richard McMartin
Dean Zimmermann wrote: Rich McMartin sets out a wild and provocative suggestion that perhaps we should just abolish the police force in Minneapolis and see hat happens. When I first read it I was aghast, surely he must be kidding. But, then, really, is the alternative any better? Just

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-25 Thread wizardmarks
I went to the police to get the information since I have a friend there I can trust. I asked, 'how does the officer see the situation?' and got the answer I wrote. In the case of Mr. Saunders, the officeres did not have the information that Mr. Saunders' family had tried to get HCMC to keep him

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-24 Thread wizardmarks
I'd like to clarify my statement since I was deemed "complacent" about police behavior. From listening to an intelligent, articulate officer who was not at the scene when Mr. Saunders was shot, I can say that the squad car officers are trained to see something different than you who were also

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-24 Thread Dave Stack
Please forgive me if I have missed previous comments on this aspect of the issue. I was just wondering if there is, or has ever been, talk of setting up a 'state-wide' police misconduct review board. Such a board would (hopefully) objectively deal with the most egregious charges of police

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-24 Thread Rosalind Nelson
ot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Multiple recipients of list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to clarify my statement since I was deemed "complacent" about police behavior. From listening t

RE: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-24 Thread Dean Zimmermann
3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-722-8768 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard McMartin Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 1:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct Perhaps we should just abolish

RE: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-24 Thread Russell Wayne Peterson
Is this really about the police? Or is it about the inability of our administration to envision a community that supports both it's citizens and it's police force? Or is it about the effect of other areas of our administration that fail to recognize what is not working in our communities? Or is

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-24 Thread RANDERSON67
In a message dated 11/24/00 10:26:26 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: squad car officers are trained to see something different than you who were also not there are seeing. That means that the city's population and the line officers--and hence all other police personnel

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-23 Thread HolleB
In a message dated 11/23/00 9:50:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can we please have a discussion on this list about proper police conduct and how we can hold police accountable for deviations from proper conduct? This is a sore subject - no pun intended - considering I was mugged in my own

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-23 Thread Jordan S. Kushner
yes, it is definitely about time that we start challenging our out-of-control - or perhaps too-much-in-control police department. i think the FIVE KILLINGS IN THE PAST YEAR is a further manifestation of a police department that is not held accountable to our elected civilian government.

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-23 Thread KarenCollier
--part1_22.e2a2013.274f4f16_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The way the city charter is written, the Chief of Police is responsible only to the Mayor. Please remember, the City Council members have little if any authority over the police.

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-23 Thread RANDERSON67
In a message dated 11/23/00 9:03:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, it is definitely about time that we start challenging our out-of-control - or perhaps too-much-in-control police department. i think the FIVE KILLINGS IN THE PAST YEAR is a further manifestation of

Re: Proposal to discuss police conduct

2000-11-23 Thread Jordan S. Kushner
Ms. Collier, I think you have definitely read the City Charter incorrectly. Chapter 3, section 4 of the City Charter provides the executive committee is responsble for the appointment and removal of the police chief. The executive committee includes the mayor, the city council president and