Re: Al Gore and urban policies

2000-11-01 Thread David Shove

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, John Rocker wrote:

 But, the biggest positive =
 impact Nader can have this election is to get out the vote for Gore. Who =
 knows, maybe Gore will appoint him head of the EPA.

 Maybe pigs will fly.


--David Shove
 




Re: Al Gore and urban policies

2000-11-01 Thread Annie Young

Read Utne Reader for the Cabinet selection - a really great list - that
would change the planet,  no matter who is President.
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First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
And then we win!
-Mohandas Gandhi






RE: Al Gore and urban policies

2000-10-31 Thread Richard Chandler

The amazing thing is that Al says these things, but then doesn't take the
opportunity he had in the last eight years to propose Superfund reform. How
much land along the Hiawatha corridor is lying unused?  The way the enviro
laws are now it will stay that way. Any business in their right mind will
avoid an old former industrial area like this because they would be
responsible to clean up any nastiness found after they buy the plot and
start construction.  So they go out to the burbs and beyond to find a piece
of land that was never anything but a woodlot or a farm.

Reforming Superfund - no action
Cleaning up brownfields - no action
Voting for Gore - no action

Rich Chandler - Ward 9

 -Original Message-
 From: John Rocker
 Contrary to what Nader supporters say, Gore and Bush are not the same when
 it comes to urban policies that will effect Minneapolis. Following is an
 excerpt from Gore's speech to the Brookings Institution that demonstrates
 Gore's grasp of issues facing Minneapolis. The complete text can be found
 at http://www.algore.com/speeches/sprawl.html. If Gore or Bush had a clear
 lead, I would urge Nader supporters to vote for Nader and get the Green
 Party $12 million. But, the biggest positive impact Nader can have this
 election is to get out the vote for Gore. Who knows, maybe Gore will
 appoint him head of the EPA.
 
 Here's part of what Gore said:
 
 "In the last fifty years, we've built flat, not tall: because land is
 cheaper the further out it lies, new office buildings, roads, and malls go
 up farther and farther out, lengthening commutes and adding to pollution.
 This outward stretch leaves a vacuum in the cities and suburbs which sucks
 away jobs, businesses, homes, and hope; as people stop walking in downtown
 areas, the vacuum is filled up fast with crime, drugs, and danger...
 
 "How, then, can the federal government encourage and strengthen smarter,
 more livable, sustainable growth? Again, smart growth is about local and
 community decisions, and we don't want to tell anyone where to live, or
 where to locate a business. But I believe there is nevertheless an
 important role for federal support for local energies.
 
 "We in the federal government can start by getting our own house in order,
 and making it look good. We should start paying closer attention to
 livability in the building and planning we provide to taxpayers-such as
 where we locate new post offices, new libraries, new federal buildings and
 so on, and whether we should fix up old beautiful old buildings in
 historic areas before rushing to build bland new ones farther out.
 
 "Secondly, we can get our own house in order by reexamining federal
 policies that may have been well-intentioned, but have encouraged and
 subsidized the wrong kind of growth and runaway sprawl. For example, in
 some cases, federal subsidies actually gave handsome financial rewards to
 communities to extend sewage lines far out into undeveloped areas, rather
 than spending those funds for needed improvements and expansions in places
 where families already relied on them. And until we changed the policy,
 the federal government gave employers big subsidies to offer parking
 spaces to their employees, but much less help if they wanted to help cover
 their employees' mass transit costs. We need a national dialogue on the
 kinds of policies that actually subsidize and encourage the wrong kind of
 development.
 
 "Third, we can provide carefully targeted incentives to encourage smarter
 growth-such as support for mass transit and light rail systems-not to
 restrict growth in any way, but to reward growth that strengthens
 family-friendly communities.
 
 "Fourth, we can play an enormously positive role as a partner with cities,
 suburbs, and rural areas, as we have already started to do through our
 empowerment initiative and through out work with the U.S. Conference of
 Mayors and the National Association of County Organizations on their
 brand-new Joint Center for Sustainable Communities. That way, whole
 regions can create a vision and build together for their common future."
 
 John Rocker - CARAG



Re: Al Gore and urban policies

2000-10-31 Thread John Rocker

Richard Chandler may be right about the lack of progress on Superfund reform
on the national level (I don't know), but brownfields are getting
redeveloped locally. There was a ground-breaking ceremony today in St. Louis
Park for new apartments on the old Mill City Lumber property (Hwy 7 and
Louisiana) and I believe the City of St. Louis Park helped pay for the clean
up and a state program limited the liability.

I'm sure someone on this list can provide much better information on the
local and state programs for cleaning up brownfields. My point is that
Superfund reform may increase funds for clean up and limit liability, but it
is still going to take local government to consolidate land, clean it up,
and make the tough redevelopment sites as attractive as green fields in
Woodbury.

Re Gore and Nader and Shrub: Gore still seems like the only candidate that
understands urban issues, wants environmental reform AND has a chance of
getting a bill through a Republican controlled Congress.

John Rocker
CARAG




RE: Al Gore and urban policies

2000-10-31 Thread Richard Chandler

About a year ago I was  shocked when I went to the US Census website and
downloaded the "Landview" software with the associated files for Hennepin
county.  One of the icons that could be turned on and off was Superfund
sites.  I was shocked!  Previous to this I was completely unaware that there
were bunches of these sites right here inside Minneapolis proper.

So...why hasn't Gore tried to shepherd a bill through the Republican
controlled congress already?  

Rich Chandler - Ward 9

 -Original Message-
 From: John Rocker
 Richard Chandler may be right about the lack of progress on Superfund
 reform on the national level (I don't know), but brownfields are getting
 redeveloped locally. There was a ground-breaking ceremony today in St.
 Louis Park for new apartments on the old Mill City Lumber property (Hwy 7
 and Louisiana) and I believe the City of St. Louis Park helped pay for the
 clean up and a state program limited the liability.
 
 I'm sure someone on this list can provide much better information on the
 local and state programs for cleaning up brownfields. My point is that
 Superfund reform may increase funds for clean up and limit liability, but
 it is still going to take local government to consolidate land, clean it
 up, and make the tough redevelopment sites as attractive as green fields
 in Woodbury.
 
 Re Gore and Nader and Shrub: Gore still seems like the only candidate that
 understands urban issues, wants environmental reform AND has a chance of
 getting a bill through a Republican controlled Congress.
 
 John Rocker - CARAG