Re: Jessie knows my number!

2000-11-07 Thread Tim Bonham


As a democrat and politcal hack, I personally was really irritated to
receive a mailing from the State DFL in SD59B (University / NE) last
week.  It was a mailing for Kahn, Pogemiller, Sabo et al.  It said
paid for by the state DFL, Mike Erlandson, chair.  It didn't even seem to
mention Gore.  That would have at least given it some justification in
Nader country.

This seems like a reprehensible allocation of resources.  The Nader voters
alone will be enough to reelect the full DFL slate in 59B where there were
3000 DFL primary voters and 193 Republicans.
 This may be explained by some overly assertive activity by the 
Federal Elections Commission.  They have reached the strange conclusion 
that is now longer allowable for political parties to mix endorsements for 
Federal races with state  local races, like for instance joint literature 
pieces listing all the DFL endorsed candidates.  Seems to me that's pretty 
much the definition of a Sample Ballot -- having all the DFL candidates 
from President to local dog-catcher is the point!
 The FEC claims that this is somehow using state or local money to 
support federal races, or maybe vice-versa, and is not allowed, even though 
this is accounted for and the sample ballot costs are allocated to the 
various campaigns as in-kind expenditures.
 I know the Minneapolis DFL had to really fight with the State DFL 
to get them to include the Minneapolis endorsed referendums on the sample 
ballots for Minneapolis.   They said that the FEC was already threatening 
them if they did this.  They said that the FEC had already filed complaints 
against the Mn DFL Party several times over similar situations.  




RE: Jessie knows my number!

2000-11-06 Thread David Brauer

RT asks:

It is list-appropriate to ask what other tactics people are seeing to turn
out city voters?

Sure, that's fine, as long as it's city specific.

A couple of other election anecdotes:

Included with my independence party lit drop was a piece for Nader. Are
Jesse's folks and Ralph's folks working together in Mpls? (It would make
sense, since Jesse doesn't have a Prez candidate and the Greens don't have
many lower-ballot folks).

Also, an acquaintance, a well-to-do Mpls lawyer, showed up at the government
center looking for an absentee ballot. The clerk eyeballed him, and said,
"Every since George Bush started doing well in the polls, all YOU people
have started showing up." Not only was my acquaintance upset that a clerk
was showing disgust at a particular party or candidate, he was mad because
he's a Democrat!

I wonder if the latter, especially in the DFL city, is a sign of anything --
I remember first thinking Jesse might win when the lawn signs
sprouted...could absentee ballots portent a Minnesota win for W?

David Brauer
King Field - Ward 10




Re: Jessie knows my number!

2000-11-06 Thread Evan Schnell

I think this is a good forum for discussion.

As a democrat and politcal hack, I personally was really irritated to
receive a mailing from the State DFL in SD59B (University / NE) last
week.  It was a mailing for Kahn, Pogemiller, Sabo et al.  It said
paid for by the state DFL, Mike Erlandson, chair.  It didn't even seem to
mention Gore.  That would have at least given it some justification in
Nader country.

This seems like a reprehensible allocation of resources.  The Nader voters
alone will be enough to reelect the full DFL slate in 59B where there were
3000 DFL primary voters and 193 Republicans.   

SD53 (Shoreview, Vadnais Hts) did not receive a state mailing even
though it has 2 open seats with strong DFL candidates.  What about
other races?  Minneapolis needs to recognize it's role as a DFL base, not
a DFL fortress.  



Evan Schnell
Como

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, R.T.Rybak wrote:

 
 I just got a call from Jesse Ventura.  Well, actually it was a RECORDED
 call...on behalf of the Independence legislative candidate in my area. I
 found it interesting that the Indepdence Party is working harder in this
 race, it seems, than the Republicans.
 
 I also saw evidence of that this weekend when I was leafleting for Neva
 Walker, and found lots of Independence literature on doorsteps...but none
 for Republicans.
 
 It is list-appropriate to ask what other tactics people are seeing to turn
 out city voters?
 
 R.T. Rybak
 East Harriet.
 




Re: Jessie knows my number!

2000-11-06 Thread Darren Pierson

These automated dialing calls are against the law.  I think many campaigns 
have been advised to cease this activity, but obviously it's continuing with 
others.  Here is the statute number and web site to view the actual 
language...

Be advised, if your campaign is taking part in this activity, they are 
breaking the law...

325E.27

http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/stats/325E/27.html

Cheers!

Darren Pierson
St. Paul-Ward 1




From: "R.T.Rybak" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Jessie knows my number!
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:39:43 -0600

I just got a call from Jesse Ventura.  Well, actually it was a RECORDED
call...on behalf of the Independence legislative candidate in my area. I
found it interesting that the Indepdence Party is working harder in this
race, it seems, than the Republicans.

I also saw evidence of that this weekend when I was leafleting for Neva
Walker, and found lots of Independence literature on doorsteps...but none
for Republicans.

It is list-appropriate to ask what other tactics people are seeing to turn
out city voters?

R.T. Rybak
East Harriet.


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Re: Jessie knows my number!

2000-11-06 Thread Base Clarksen


I have gotten about 4 calls already from different parties who left
recorded messages on my machine. One was a republican , and one was from
the Gibson senate campaign. They are annoying...and in the first case,
very biased an uninformative.

I think something should be done about this

Robb Clarksen
SE

 These automated dialing calls are against the law.  I think many campaigns 
 have been advised to cease this activity, but obviously it's continuing with 
 others.  Here is the statute number and web site to view the actual 
 language...
 
 Be advised, if your campaign is taking part in this activity, they are 
 breaking the law...
 
 325E.27
 
 http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/stats/325E/27.html
 
 Cheers!
 
 Darren Pierson
 St. Paul-Ward 1
 
 
 
 
 From: "R.T.Rybak" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Jessie knows my number!
 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:39:43 -0600
 
 I just got a call from Jesse Ventura.  Well, actually it was a RECORDED
 call...on behalf of the Independence legislative candidate in my area. I
 found it interesting that the Indepdence Party is working harder in this
 race, it seems, than the Republicans.
 
 I also saw evidence of that this weekend when I was leafleting for Neva
 Walker, and found lots of Independence literature on doorsteps...but none
 for Republicans.
 
 It is list-appropriate to ask what other tactics people are seeing to turn
 out city voters?
 
 R.T. Rybak
 East Harriet.
 
 
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Re: Jessie knows my number! (So does Stenberg)

2000-11-06 Thread Adam Stenberg

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Well, I just finished knocking on my last of almost 11,000 doors here in
district 60B and am settling in for one last night of personal phone calling
along with about 18 volunteers scattered throughout southwest Minneapolis.

I want to take the opportunity to respond the idea posed by R.T. Rybak "that
the Independence Party is working harder...than the Republicans."  I hesitate
to address it because the proposition is such so ludicrous.  I personally
knocked on Mr. Rybak's door on the day when Jim Ramstad took an entire morning
to block work with us.  I left a note since nobody answered.  However, my
volunteers probably wouldn't stop at the house since it contains a lawn sign
for my opponent.  Even so, another volunteer hit that particular block earlier
today.  The fact that literature wasn't in a certain neighborhood last
Saturday is certainly no basis for a such broad assumption.

We've had House Speaker Sviggum knocking on doors along with FOUR former city
council members.  We've had up to 25 people knocking in a single day!  We
purchased five billboards. We sent out 15,000 pieces of targeted mail.  As of
today, we have nearly raised and spent the maximum allowed by law ($25,320).
We have individually knocked on almost every door in the district.  We were
just talking recently, that this is probably the most active Republican
campaign for state representative in 20 years.  We very well know we will
quite possibly win tomorrow in this independent area of Minneapolis.  Tomorrow
will tell.

For those of you in district 60B, your vote will be appreciated tomorrow and
will finally give Minneapolis a voice in the house majority amongst a straight
slate of eleven democrats!

- Adam Stenberg
  Fulton Neighborhood
  Republican-endorsed candidate for 60B

P.S.   R.T., I'd still appreciate your vote, too!


"R.T.Rybak" wrote:

 I just got a call from Jesse Ventura.  Well, actually it was a RECORDED
 call...on behalf of the Independence legislative candidate in my area. I
 found it interesting that the Indepdence Party is working harder in this
 race, it seems, than the Republicans.

 I also saw evidence of that this weekend when I was leafleting for Neva
 Walker, and found lots of Independence literature on doorsteps...but none
 for Republicans.

 It is list-appropriate to ask what other tactics people are seeing to turn
 out city voters?

 R.T. Rybak
 East Harriet.

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