Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ERROR DBFILTER.PRJ

2023-07-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard.

>(As the initiator of the trouble, I'll probabely have the duty to attack
the chore, I'm afraid...)

I fear it too because my level of knowledge of db-msegui is very low.



Fre;D


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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ERROR DBFILTER.PRJ

Hello Fred,

you wrote on Mon, 10 Jul 2023 21:09:01 +:

> I did read your post but sadly I did not find yet the time to jump into
> your code. I will try to do it asap.

There is no code above the one provided previously - just the explanation
of the reason for the reported error messages. Well, and a possible "fast
fix" for them, albeit a probabely incomplete one.
But still, doing it thoroughly WILL take its time, as this would require to
test all the occurrences of the problematic message, and maybe even those
of the other one, and making CERTAIN that there will be no false triggers.
(As the initiator of the trouble, I'll probabely have the duty to attack
the chore, I'm afraid...)
Sorry for the problem.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ERROR DBFILTER.PRJ

2023-07-11 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hello Fred,

you wrote on Mon, 10 Jul 2023 21:09:01 +:

> I did read your post but sadly I did not find yet the time to jump into
> your code. I will try to do it asap.

There is no code above the one provided previously - just the explanation
of the reason for the reported error messages. Well, and a possible "fast
fix" for them, albeit a probabely incomplete one.
But still, doing it thoroughly WILL take its time, as this would require to
test all the occurrences of the problematic message, and maybe even those
of the other one, and making CERTAIN that there will be no false triggers.
(As the initiator of the trouble, I'll probabely have the duty to attack
the chore, I'm afraid...)
Sorry for the problem.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
from:
https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,55111.msg409486.html#msg409486

They say:

The Lazarus IDE should be build with -O1. Anyone wishing to use
higher optimization may need to add -OoNOPEEPHOLE to avoid
crashes of the IDE.

So maybe it is the same for mseide, if you compile with -O3 and -OoNOPEEPHOLE  
is it ok?

De : code dz 
Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 18:52
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello Code DZ.
>
>>when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
> or third time mseide freeze .
>
> Hum, here on Windows 11, with mseide 5.8.0 from asset release, making the
> demo with -O3, even lot of time, is ok.
>
>>btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if>
>>debug mseide inside mseide it self it freeze without any message .
>
> If the -O3 bug for Windows 7 was introduced in fpc 3.2.2 and not detected,
> sure it is still in trunk.
>
>>btw this is the what i used in the mseide build
>
> Not sure to understand, so you use mseide build with -O3 ?
> I was thinking you used the binary from asset release.
>
> (Or I dont understand, as usual).
>
> Fre;D
>
>
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 17:04
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> Hello Code DZ.
>>
>> There is something that I dont understand.
>> mseide get freezes during compilation or when running/debugging the
>> application?
>>
>> I cannot understand why mseide freezes during compilation.
>> If it is by running/debug, did you try to run the binary outside mseide,
>> is
>> it running ok?
>>
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 15:56
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> Re-hello Code DZ.
>>>
>>> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>>>
>>> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
>>> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows
>>> 7?
>>> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
>>> 
>>> De : code dz 
>>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
>>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>>> 
>>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
 OK and aaargh.

 I will jump into it asap.

 Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
 Did you have that problem with previous release?

 Thanks.


 
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 Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
 
 Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

 On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
> option
> parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.
>
> To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
> /tools/timeless_clock/
> to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
> If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb
> for
> Linux 64 bit:
> https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
> In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
> parameter.
>
> Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
> For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
> binary
> of release 5.8.0.
>
> Have lot of fun.
>
> Fre;D
>

 Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
 simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
 kill its process

 i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits


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>>>
>>> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
>>> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
>>> seems FPC optimizer bug
>>>
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>>
>> Hi fred , sorry for the delay
>> i found the problem in v5.8.2 and v5.8.0 , i don't know if the
>> previous releases has the same issue , but i remember while ago i was
>> able to use mseide built with -O3 without problems, 

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
For the bug in Linux-msegui discovered by Mathias, it was some pointers that 
should be pointers of pointer.
O3 is very strict, some imprecisions are accepted without optimization but with 
O3, no approximations permitted.

Maybe it is the same in Windows-msegui code, I will check that (asap).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-re hello CeFou.

It is not fair to accuse FPC on my part.
It can be a bug in msegui.

When testing msegui compiled with fpc-llvm for Linux there was problems with 
-O2 and -O3.

And Mathias, our fpc-dev guardian angel, found a bug in msegui code.
Fixed it allows -O2 and -O3 now for llvm.

So it is possible that something in mesgui code is not ok for -O3 on Windows.



De : Fred van Stappen 
Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 18:21
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

Re-re hello.

If, by any chance, when you use mseide compiled with -O1, and it is working, 
then it is a other old story.

But this dates form years (decades?).

Indeed, with MSEgui and fpGUI, sometimes applications compiled with -03 crash.
Graeme and Martin and others did try to find why but at the end the easy 
conclusion was to not use -O3.


De : Fred van Stappen 
Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 18:03
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

Hello Code DZ.

>when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
or third time mseide freeze .

Hum, here on Windows 11, with mseide 5.8.0 from asset release, making the demo 
with -O3, even lot of time, is ok.

>btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if>
>debug mseide inside mseide it self it freeze without any message .

If the -O3 bug for Windows 7 was introduced in fpc 3.2.2 and not detected, sure 
it is still in trunk.

>btw this is the what i used in the mseide build

Not sure to understand, so you use mseide build with -O3 ?
I was thinking you used the binary from asset release.

(Or I dont understand, as usual).

Fre;D



De : code dz 
Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 17:04
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello Code DZ.
>
> There is something that I dont understand.
> mseide get freezes during compilation or when running/debugging the
> application?
>
> I cannot understand why mseide freezes during compilation.
> If it is by running/debug, did you try to run the binary outside mseide, is
> it running ok?
>
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 15:56
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> Re-hello Code DZ.
>>
>> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>>
>> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
>> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows
>> 7?
>> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> OK and aaargh.
>>>
>>> I will jump into it asap.
>>>
>>> Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
>>> Did you have that problem with previous release?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> De : code dz 
>>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
>>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>>> 
>>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
 Hello everybody.

 There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
 option
 parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.

 To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
 /tools/timeless_clock/
 to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
 If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb for
 Linux 64 bit:
 https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
 In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
 parameter.

 Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
 For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
 binary
 of release 5.8.0.

 Have lot of fun.

 Fre;D

>>>
>>> Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
>>> simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
>>> kill its process
>>>
>>> i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
>> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
>> seems FPC optimizer bug
>>
>>
>> ___

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread code dz
On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello Code DZ.
>
>>when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
> or third time mseide freeze .
>
> Hum, here on Windows 11, with mseide 5.8.0 from asset release, making the
> demo with -O3, even lot of time, is ok.
>
>>btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if>
>>debug mseide inside mseide it self it freeze without any message .
>
> If the -O3 bug for Windows 7 was introduced in fpc 3.2.2 and not detected,
> sure it is still in trunk.
>
>>btw this is the what i used in the mseide build
>
> Not sure to understand, so you use mseide build with -O3 ?
> I was thinking you used the binary from asset release.
>
> (Or I dont understand, as usual).
>
> Fre;D
>
>
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 17:04
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> Hello Code DZ.
>>
>> There is something that I dont understand.
>> mseide get freezes during compilation or when running/debugging the
>> application?
>>
>> I cannot understand why mseide freezes during compilation.
>> If it is by running/debug, did you try to run the binary outside mseide,
>> is
>> it running ok?
>>
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 15:56
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> Re-hello Code DZ.
>>>
>>> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>>>
>>> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
>>> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows
>>> 7?
>>> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
>>> 
>>> De : code dz 
>>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
>>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>>> 
>>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
 OK and aaargh.

 I will jump into it asap.

 Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
 Did you have that problem with previous release?

 Thanks.


 
 De : code dz 
 Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
 
 Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

 On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
> option
> parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.
>
> To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
> /tools/timeless_clock/
> to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
> If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb
> for
> Linux 64 bit:
> https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
> In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
> parameter.
>
> Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
> For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
> binary
> of release 5.8.0.
>
> Have lot of fun.
>
> Fre;D
>

 Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
 simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
 kill its process

 i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits


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>>>
>>> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
>>> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
>>> seems FPC optimizer bug
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Hi fred , sorry for the delay
>> i found the problem in v5.8.2 and v5.8.0 , i don't know if the
>> previous releases has the same issue , but i remember while ago i was
>> able to use mseide built with -O3 without problems, don't know which
>> version but it was 2 or 3 years ago .
>> BTW i am using fpc 3.2.2 ,
>> i will give it another shot with fpc trunk
>>
>>
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>>
>
> when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
> or third time mseide freeze .
> btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Code DZ.

>when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
or third time mseide freeze .

Hum, here on Windows 11, with mseide 5.8.0 from asset release, making the demo 
with -O3, even lot of time, is ok.

>btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if>
>debug mseide inside mseide it self it freeze without any message .

If the -O3 bug for Windows 7 was introduced in fpc 3.2.2 and not detected, sure 
it is still in trunk.

>btw this is the what i used in the mseide build

Not sure to understand, so you use mseide build with -O3 ?
I was thinking you used the binary from asset release.

(Or I dont understand, as usual).

Fre;D



De : code dz 
Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 17:04
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello Code DZ.
>
> There is something that I dont understand.
> mseide get freezes during compilation or when running/debugging the
> application?
>
> I cannot understand why mseide freezes during compilation.
> If it is by running/debug, did you try to run the binary outside mseide, is
> it running ok?
>
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 15:56
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> Re-hello Code DZ.
>>
>> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>>
>> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
>> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows
>> 7?
>> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> OK and aaargh.
>>>
>>> I will jump into it asap.
>>>
>>> Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
>>> Did you have that problem with previous release?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> De : code dz 
>>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
>>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>>> 
>>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
 Hello everybody.

 There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
 option
 parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.

 To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
 /tools/timeless_clock/
 to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
 If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb for
 Linux 64 bit:
 https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
 In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
 parameter.

 Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
 For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
 binary
 of release 5.8.0.

 Have lot of fun.

 Fre;D

>>>
>>> Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
>>> simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
>>> kill its process
>>>
>>> i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
>> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
>> seems FPC optimizer bug
>>
>>
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>
> Hi fred , sorry for the delay
> i found the problem in v5.8.2 and v5.8.0 , i don't know if the
> previous releases has the same issue , but i remember while ago i was
> able to use mseide built with -O3 without problems, don't know which
> version but it was 2 or 3 years ago .
> BTW i am using fpc 3.2.2 ,
> i will give it another shot with fpc trunk
>
>
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>

when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
or third time mseide freeze .
btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if
debug mseide inside mseide it self it freeze without any message .

i think the way to find the issue is to try every single release , but
it take time :;)

btw this is the what i used in the mseide build

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread code dz
On 7/11/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Hello Code DZ.
>
> There is something that I dont understand.
> mseide get freezes during compilation or when running/debugging the
> application?
>
> I cannot understand why mseide freezes during compilation.
> If it is by running/debug, did you try to run the binary outside mseide, is
> it running ok?
>
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 15:56
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> Re-hello Code DZ.
>>
>> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>>
>> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
>> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows
>> 7?
>> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> OK and aaargh.
>>>
>>> I will jump into it asap.
>>>
>>> Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
>>> Did you have that problem with previous release?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> De : code dz 
>>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
>>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>>> 
>>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
 Hello everybody.

 There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
 option
 parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.

 To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
 /tools/timeless_clock/
 to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
 If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb for
 Linux 64 bit:
 https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
 In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
 parameter.

 Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
 For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
 binary
 of release 5.8.0.

 Have lot of fun.

 Fre;D

>>>
>>> Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
>>> simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
>>> kill its process
>>>
>>> i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits
>>>
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>> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
>> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
>> seems FPC optimizer bug
>>
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>
> Hi fred , sorry for the delay
> i found the problem in v5.8.2 and v5.8.0 , i don't know if the
> previous releases has the same issue , but i remember while ago i was
> able to use mseide built with -O3 without problems, don't know which
> version but it was 2 or 3 years ago .
> BTW i am using fpc 3.2.2 ,
> i will give it another shot with fpc trunk
>
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when i hit make it compiles ok for the first time, but in the second
or third time mseide freeze .
btw i tried free pascal trunk and the issue still the same , even if
debug mseide inside mseide it self it freeze without any message .

i think the way to find the issue is to try every single release , but
it take time :;)

btw this is the what i used in the mseide build
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Code DZ.

There is something that I dont understand.
mseide get freezes during compilation or when running/debugging the application?

I cannot understand why mseide freezes during compilation.
If it is by running/debug, did you try to run the binary outside mseide, is it 
running ok?


De : code dz 
Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2023 15:56
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Re-hello Code DZ.
>
> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>
> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows 7?
> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> OK and aaargh.
>>
>> I will jump into it asap.
>>
>> Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
>> Did you have that problem with previous release?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> Hello everybody.
>>>
>>> There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
>>> option
>>> parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.
>>>
>>> To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
>>> /tools/timeless_clock/
>>> to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
>>> If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb for
>>> Linux 64 bit:
>>> https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
>>> In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
>>> parameter.
>>>
>>> Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
>>> For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
>>> binary
>>> of release 5.8.0.
>>>
>>> Have lot of fun.
>>>
>>> Fre;D
>>>
>>
>> Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
>> simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
>> kill its process
>>
>> i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits
>>
>>
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>
> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
> seems FPC optimizer bug
>
>
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Hi fred , sorry for the delay
i found the problem in v5.8.2 and v5.8.0 , i don't know if the
previous releases has the same issue , but i remember while ago i was
able to use mseide built with -O3 without problems, don't know which
version but it was 2 or 3 years ago .
BTW i am using fpc 3.2.2 ,
i will give it another shot with fpc trunk


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.

2023-07-11 Thread code dz
On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
> Re-hello Code DZ.
>
> I am here on a Windows 11 machine.
>
> I have created a console app with MSEide 5.8.0. and MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> Here no problem to compile + run + debug with -O3 optimization.
> Do you have the same problem with -O3 and other IDE compiling on Windows 7?
> If you compile via terminal with -O3, do you get a crash too ?
> 
> De : code dz 
> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 23:44
> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
> 
> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>
> On 7/10/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>> OK and aaargh.
>>
>> I will jump into it asap.
>>
>> Does it come only with console project and Windows 32 bit?
>> Did you have that problem with previous release?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> 
>> De : code dz 
>> Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 22:47
>> À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui
>> 
>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Release MSEgui 5.8.2.
>>
>> On 7/8/23, Fred van Stappen  wrote:
>>> Hello everybody.
>>>
>>> There is a new release 5.8.2 with fixes for db filters and -dglibc225
>>> option
>>> parameter to build "timeless" binary for Linux 64 bit.
>>>
>>> To produce the "timeless" binary, there is a demo in
>>> /tools/timeless_clock/
>>> to show how to do with the project option and the "fake libdl.so".
>>> If you prefer something more out-of-the-block, you may use fpc-ootb for
>>> Linux 64 bit:
>>> https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/tag/3.2.2
>>> In that case, you will need to only use  the -dglibc225 option
>>> parameter.
>>>
>>> Note that release 5.8.2. provides only the source of MSEgui.
>>> For MSEide binary, because nothing has changed there, please use the
>>> binary
>>> of release 5.8.0.
>>>
>>> Have lot of fun.
>>>
>>> Fre;D
>>>
>>
>> Hi Fred , on windows it seems there is problem , when i create a
>> simple console project and compile it , the mseide get freezes until i
>> kill its process
>>
>> i am using mseide 5.8.2 for windows7 32bits
>>
>>
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>
> i think i found the problem , when i build mseide using -O3 i got that
> error , but with -O2 it works fine .
> seems FPC optimizer bug
>
>
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Hi fred , sorry for the delay
i found the problem in v5.8.2 and v5.8.0 , i don't know if the
previous releases has the same issue , but i remember while ago i was
able to use mseide built with -O3 without problems, don't know which
version but it was 2 or 3 years ago .
BTW i am using fpc 3.2.2 ,
i will give it another shot with fpc trunk


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