Re: multipart/alternative

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then JT blurted As to an idiots guide to mime types, I don't think so. The best you can get is ... 'read the RFCs' and 'pray' :) Yeah. Thanks guys, reason I asked was that I've gotten a couple of odd mails from one of the w3c lists

Re: Deleting Mass emails..

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted On Jan 23, Jason Nealis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: What's the easyiest way to delete message 1-2000? D~m 1-2000 D - delete-pattern ~m 1-2000 - pattern for messages 1-2000 Would that make

mutt 1.3.27 cannot be started directly with xterm

2002-01-24 Thread Christoph Maurer
Dear folks! Seem to have a problem with mutt-1.3.27. If I start it together with xterm (or also KDE konsole) using xterm -e mutt mutt and the xterm immediately crash without any output. But If I start first xterm and then mutt in this xterm everything works fine. Any Ideas? Find my config

Re: mutt 1.3.27 cannot be started directly with xterm

2002-01-24 Thread Dave Smith
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 10:18:48AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear folks! Seem to have a problem with mutt-1.3.27. If I start it together with xterm (or also KDE konsole) using xterm -e mutt mutt and the xterm immediately crash without any output. But If I start first xterm and

Guide.

2002-01-24 Thread erik
Hi. Could you plese send me a short info, on how to get out of mutt after a message has been written. Or better how do I start a mutt e-mail ??. How do I set Midnight Commander to be the editor for mutt ??.

Re: Guide.

2002-01-24 Thread erik
Have you been to www.mutt.org ? Yes.

Re: Guide.

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurted Have you been to www.mutt.org ? Yes. Well, it's all there. Try www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-2.html (getting started) and www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3 (for the set editor bit) - --

Re: Guide.

2002-01-24 Thread erik
Well, it's all there. Try www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-2.html (getting started) and www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3 (for the set editor bit) Ok thanks Nick.

Re: mutt 1.3.27 cannot be started directly with xterm

2002-01-24 Thread Christoph Maurer
On 2002-01-24 Dave Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 10:18:48AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear folks! Seem to have a problem with mutt-1.3.27. If I start it together with xterm (or also KDE konsole) using xterm -e mutt mutt and the xterm immediately crash without any

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas Huemmler
Hello Nick, * Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020123 17:56]: and talking of bad communicators, it's been killing me trying to work out what IMHO stands for? Is there a site that lists all these little jobbies? if you are using Debian, you can install the dictd Dictionary Server, the dict

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Thomas Huemmler blurted if you are using Debian, you can install the dictd Dictionary Server, the dict Client and the Jargon File with the command Hmmm... Actually I'm RedHat but I'm sure I can do something similar, I've

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-24 Thread Preben Randhol
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/01/2002 (22:02) : The person was asking for a browser that could handle javascript. The one you said was 'better' doesn't support Javascript, either. No he didn't ask for that. He said he used lynx. I said w3m is better, but it isn't when you use

Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Preben Randhol
I have just installed gnupg on my system and set it up. I wonder how ever why people sign their mails to mailinglists? Perhaps there is something wrong in my setup because I keep getting: [-- PGP output follows (current time: tor 24-01-2002 11:56:40 CET) --] gpg: Signature made ons

Re: saving messages to a file

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Richard -- ...and then Richard G. Ball said... % % On [2002-Jan-23] David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Looks like your push sequence is just appending to the default name % already in the edit buffer. One way around this would be just to put a % kill-line as the first binding

macros help

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone. I have this line in my rc file macro pager d exitdelete-message which makes sure that when I delete a message I'm taken back to the index. I'd like to do the same thing if I decide to delete a thread. I've tried the following...

Re: Deleting Mass emails..

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % Would that make it % D~m * % % if I wanted to completely empty a mailbox? It looks like not: 4.2. Patterns ... ~m [MIN]-[MAX] message in the range MIN to MAX *) ... *) The forms [MAX], [MIN], [MIN]- and -[MAX] are allowed,

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Preben -- ...and then Preben Randhol said... % % I have just installed gnupg on my system and set it up. I wonder how % ever why people sign their mails to mailinglists? Perhaps there is This has come up at least twice, in great detail, in recent memory. Check the archives for more so that we

differnet color in body!

2002-01-24 Thread Pun Kuan Tou
How to make some different color in body something like *text* _text_ etc? -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] === | Debian GNU/Linux _|_ ___ @AMD-K6-2 | O | | | http://home.macau.ctm.net/~toukp

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Preben Randhol
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (12:18) : This has come up at least twice, in great detail, in recent memory. Check the archives for more so that we don't have to get into it again :-) Ah I found it in the archive. Sorry should have searched better. And I also found a way to

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Preben -- ...and then Preben Randhol said... % % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (12:18) : % % This has come up at least twice, in great detail, in recent memory. % Check the archives for more so that we don't have to get into it again :-) % % Ah I found it in the archive.

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Preben Randhol
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (12:38) : % also found a way to get rid of this problem with signed posts (which I % think is unnecessary for ordinary posts). Without rising to the bait of your latter statement, what did you find as mentioned in your former statement? No it

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Preben -- ...and then Preben Randhol said... % % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (12:38) : % % also found a way to get rid of this problem with signed posts (which I % % think is unnecessary for ordinary posts). % % Without rising to the bait of your latter statement, what

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Preben Randhol
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (12:54) : Well, once you do, I'm interested in what you find. I understand the reasoning of the don't sign mailing list posts side and would like to see things that make their lives easier. If you don't want to be bothered, then please give me

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:28:41AM -0500, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: macro index ,@veron enter-commandset pgp_verify_sig\n;macro index \\cu ,@veroff 'Toggle PGP verification'\n macro index ,@veroff enter-commandunset pgp_verify_sig\n;macro index \\cu ,@veron 'Toggle PGP

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Nicolas, et al -- ...and then Nicolas Rachinsky said... % % * On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:28:41AM -0500, % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: %macro index ,@veron enter-commandset pgp_verify_sig\n;macro index \\cu ,@veroff 'Toggle PGP verification'\n %macro index ,@veroff

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread alpha
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:28:41AM -0500, David T-G wrote: That's interesting... What gives with the check-trad bit, I wonder, since it's *after* one displays the message. I think that that can go. I don't know - I'm not a mutt guru, I've just ripped it from somebody :) macro index

Re: differnet color in body!

2002-01-24 Thread Luke Ross
Hi, On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 07:12:11PM +0800, Pun Kuan Tou wrote: How to make some different color in body something like *text* _text_ etc? It may have been done better before, but: color body brightred default \\*[^*]{0,30}\\* color body brightred default

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Clark
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 24. 2002 07:26]: [...] Works well, although 'toggle pgp_verify_sig' works better, like somebody in this thread has noticed. On the other hand when I'm in a pager I still have to leave current message and then enter it again to check sign - but never mind, I have the

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Brian, et al -- ...and then Brian Clark said... % % * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 24. 2002 07:26]: % % Works well, although 'toggle pgp_verify_sig' works better, like ... % % I was trying to get something similar to work yesterday. No one finds it % odd that one can't check a single signature?

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread alpha
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:13:20AM -0500, Brian Clark wrote: No one finds it odd that one can't check a single signature? I find it strange... :) I've given up, and just set pgp_verify_sig to ask-no, but I have to hit Enter twice when entering a message. I'd rather set it to 'no' and set

Filtering of incoming email directly to folders.

2002-01-24 Thread Jason Nealis
Two quick questions : 1) Can mutt automatically take incoming mail and push it into a mail folder, for instance take all mail addressed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and push that into my mail folder mutt-users. I tried to do this with save-hooks but it didn't work. Should I use procmail instead?

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 24, Brian Clark [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 24. 2002 07:26]: I was trying to get something similar to work yesterday. No one finds it odd that one can't check a single signature? I've given up, and just set pgp_verify_sig to ask-no, but I have to hit Enter twice

Re: Filtering of incoming email directly to folders.

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Jason -- ...and then Jason Nealis said... % % Two quick questions : % % 1) Can mutt automatically take incoming mail and push it into a mail folder, for instance % take all mail addressed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and push that into my mail folder mutt-users. % I tried to do this with save-hooks

Re: Filtering of incoming email directly to folders.

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 24, Jason Nealis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: 1) Can mutt automatically take incoming mail and push it into a mail folder, for instance take all mail addressed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and push that into my mail folder mutt-users. I tried to do this with save-hooks but it didn't work.

Re: Filtering of incoming email directly to folders.

2002-01-24 Thread Ken Wahl
Jason Nealis on 24/01/2002 at 10:17 opined thusly: 1) Can mutt automatically take incoming mail and push it into a mail folder No, this would be the job of your MDA. For most people that is procmail. But as someone so tactfully pointed out to me, there are alternatives which you may find

Re: etiquette is out

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Erika Pacholleck hath spake thusly: I have been reading all your arguments in that blind etiquette thread and more than once I was tempted to reply. I did not, I have a rule not allow any mail to upset me any longer. That's a good policy. :) Now there is a simple

message filtering in mutt

2002-01-24 Thread Mike Schiraldi
I've written patch which brings message filtering to mutt. Once applied, you can press EscF from within mutt to begin the process of setting up mail filters. The patch is short, so i've attached in inline: --- Muttrc.head.in.old Thu Jan 24 11:00:52 2002 +++ Muttrc.head.in Thu Jan 24

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Preven Randhol
At some point hitherto, Preben Randhol hath spake thusly: David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (12:18) : This has come up at least twice, in great detail, in recent memory. Check the archives for more so that we don't have to get into it again :-) Ah I found it in the

Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?

2002-01-24 Thread Anh Lai
fetchmail does the trick [ On 01/05/02, Charles Jie decided to write: ] Now I have a mail system = postfix + mutt + procmail + getmail. getmail fetches my mail in some POP3 servers. But it just places mail in some mboxes - compared to the mail received by postfix and

prevent signature on reply

2002-01-24 Thread Anh Lai
how do i keep adding my signature when replying? I would like to add it only when composing a new messgae. Having my signature collect on the bottom gets annoying sometimes. -- Anh Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Student of Computer Engineering ~

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Preven Randhol hath spake thusly: At some point hitherto, Preben Randhol hath spake thusly: also found a way to get rid of this problem with signed posts (which I think is unnecessary for ordinary posts). Signing on mailing lists is used to prevent this problem

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Gary Johnson
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 12:47:25PM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: the colors are fixable - what is painful for html email regarding mutt is that since the html attachments don't show up except as a single line, I tend to delete the email before reading it. (There are inevitably some people

Re: char % as quote

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Anh Lai blurted How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like set indent_string=% apparently David only uses this, and i would like to learn how to add % as a quote indicator. Oh boy, are you in for it!

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Volker Moell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I sugest you to use: macro pager \cv enter-commandset pgp_verify_sig\nexitdisplay-messageenter-commandunset pgp_verify_sig\n Check PGP sig One question: Why isn't there a general solution for this FAQ (sic!)? In the last five months I read mutt-users this

Re: macros help

2002-01-24 Thread Michael Tatge
Nick Wilson muttered: macro pager d exitdelete-message which makes sure that when I delete a message I'm taken back to the index. I'd like to do the same thing if I decide to delete a thread. I've tried the following... macro pager ^d exitdelete-thread to no avail. Anyone spot what

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Gary Johnson blurted It depends on how you have mutt configured. I have my mailcap file and auto_view command set up to display HTML attachments as plain text in mutt's pager and have display_filter set to remove the [-- ... --]

Re: macros help

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Michael Tatge blurted I bet that works, except you press the wrong keys. :) Ctrl-d is \cd in mutt. See manual section 3.3. Not sure I get you there but I eventually solved it by using '^D' as opposed to '^d' Cheers - -- Nick

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Mike Schiraldi
2. I got tired of explaining text-only MUAs to them only to receive comments like, I guess Unix isn't very good if it can't even display different colors and fonts like my PC can. When are you guys going to start using Windows? It all comes down to who should be in control --

Re: multipart/alternative

2002-01-24 Thread JT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: Yeah. Thanks guys, reason I asked was that I've gotten a couple of odd mails from one of the w3c lists i'm on. multipart/alternative and when I open if it's just full of stuff that looks very much like a pgp

[Slightly OT] [PATCH] DSN for ssmtp

2002-01-24 Thread Luke Ross
Hi, Sorry if this is done before, but I wanted to support DSN under cygwin. sendmail isnt the easiest thing to compile under cygwin, and a bit overkill, so I've tweaked ssmtp to take the DSN flags in a sendmailish style. Regards, Luke --- ssmtp-2.38.7-3/ssmtp.c Thu Jun 7 13:54:20 2001

Re: multipart/alternative

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then JT blurted Sounds like someone sent a part that got base-64 encoded. There should be something like a filename or some information in the Content-headers for that part which tell you something about it. Yes, it was base-64

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Nick Wilson« am 2002-01-23 um 18:04:08 +0100 : find clicking a link in an email easier than pasting it into a browser. It /is/ easier. They're just not aware of the down points of html mail. Well, sure it is - however don't all the HTML capable MUAs convert texts like

Re: Stripping Sigs

2002-01-24 Thread David Champion
On 2002.01.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], matthew pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to strip signatures when replying to mails? Slrn seems to automatically do this for me 'out of the box' (There's a strip_sig_regexp variable). I've searched on google, and the best I could

Re: Stripping Sigs

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Matthew, et al -- ...and then David Champion said... % % On 2002.01.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], % matthew pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Is it possible to strip signatures when replying to mails? Slrn seems ... % could come up with is a vi macro: % % map _qs G?^^M?^ -- $^Md} %

Re: char % as quote

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % * and then Anh Lai blurted % How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like % % set indent_string=% Not quite... That's how *I* make my quotes use percent instead of a greater. % % apparently David only uses this,

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Maarten den Braber
* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020124 19:15]: I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or *compose* a message. Reason being a different cursor starting point for each one (on the attribution for replying and on the top line for composing). I'm not sure how to do

Re: Stripping Sigs

2002-01-24 Thread David Champion
On 2002.01.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew, et al -- ...and then David Champion said... % % set editor=vi '+/^-- $/;,$d' Note that this will actually strip your signature and not that of the original email. Given your macro example above,

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Alexander Skwar spake thus: Well, sure it is - however don't all the HTML capable MUAs convert texts like http://this-is-not.a.link.de into a clickable link? Mozilla does. Mutt highlights that as a mail, and urlview recognizes it as a link. No need for HTML-enabled mailers at all. Not

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Volker, et al -- ...and then Volker Moell said... % % [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Then I sugest you to use: % % macro pager \cv enter-commandset pgp_verify_sig\nexitdisplay-messageenter-commandunset pgp_verify_sig\n Check PGP sig % % One question: Why isn't there a general solution

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Gary Johnson
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 05:49:27PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: * and then Gary Johnson blurted It depends on how you have mutt configured. I have my mailcap file and auto_view command set up to display HTML attachments as plain text in mutt's pager and have display_filter set to remove

Re: These quoted/printable attachments

2002-01-24 Thread Steven Schneider
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 07:59:27PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: I've noticed that quite a few people on this list send a quoted/printable attachment with thier main message body even when using mutt. It's not a problem really, I'm just curious as to why this is. I've not noticed this at

macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or *compose* a message. Reason being a different cursor starting point for each one (on the attribution for replying and on the top line for composing). I'm not sure how to

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted Can't you bind a macro to the key that you press when replying and when composing a message? Well, I'm not sure hence the subject line to this thread. If I knew how to do either one I would have done it

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread David T-G
Rob, et al -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Alexander Skwar spake thus: % Well, sure it is - however don't all the HTML capable MUAs convert texts % like http://this-is-not.a.link.de into a clickable link? Mozilla does. % % Mutt highlights that as a mail, and urlview recognizes it as

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Maarten den Braber
* Maarten den Braber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020124 20:03]: * Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020124 19:15]: I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or *compose* a message. Reason being a different cursor starting point for each one (on the attribution for replying and

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 24, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Volker, et al -- % the last five months I read mutt-users this problem came up several % times. Lots of mutt-users post their (more or less) complicated macros % which always have their disadvantages. Ok, it seems not to me mutt's % philosophy

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Will Yardley
Nick Wilson wrote: I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or *compose* a message. Reason being a different cursor starting point for each one (on the attribution for replying and on the top line for composing). why not just use different macros for 'compose' and

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Mike Schiraldi
I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or *compose* a message. I don't know much about vi, but how about writing a function that greps for /^in-reply-to:/ and takes it from there? Or a shell script like: # untested if grep -i ^in-reply-to $1; then vi --do-reply $1;

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted Maybe it's A Good Thing to give an example to ;-), here it is: bind index r noop bind index m noop What's a noop? macro index m :set editor=\vim -c ':0;/Subject'\\\nmail macro index r :set

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, David T-G hath spake thusly: Unless I've misunderstood (and need correction), you've mixed two different items: traditional checking (accomplished via esc-P) and on-demand verifying (accomplished through various macros). Can you confirm or deny? Related to this:

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Will Yardley blurted why not just use different macros for 'compose' and 'reply' - ie: (untested) macro index m :set editor=blah\nmail macro index r :set editor=blah\nreply macro index R :set editor=blah\ngroup-reply macro index

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Maarten den Braber
* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020124 21:17]: bind index r noop bind index m noop What's a noop? noop means as much as 'do nothing' (no operation or something i guess), i thought that the macros wouldn't work if i didn't do this, but maybe they do. i don't know for sure. macro index

Re: These quoted/printable attachments

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Steven Schneider hath spake thusly: On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 07:59:27PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: I've noticed that quite a few people on this list send a quoted/printable attachment with thier main message body even when using mutt. It's not a problem really,

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Maarten den Braber
* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020124 21:21]: macro index m :set editor=blah\nmail macro index r :set editor=blah\nreply macro index R :set editor=blah\ngroup-reply macro index L :set editor=blah\nlist-reply Ah now I see a pattern, you can put the mail thingy in the set editor bit.

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted i don't get your question, do you mean how mutt knows when to reply or compose? that's in the 'm'ail and 'r'eply keys i use. Yes, sorry. I put 2 and 2 together once I'd seen Wills post, and saw the mail

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread David Champion
On 2002.01.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * and then Maarten den Braber blurted Maybe it's A Good Thing to give an example to ;-), here it is: bind index r noop bind index m noop What's a noop? No-op: no operation [on this cycle :)].

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then David Champion blurted The \n terminates the :set editor command. It's the same action as pressing the ENTER key. mail inside a macro tells mutt to execute the mail function. This is bound to m by default. Most people probably

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Preben Randhol spake thus: No he didn't ask for that. He said he used lynx. I said w3m is better, but it isn't when you use the browser with a screenreader then lynx is better. He said I'm looking for a browser that supports javascript. I don't know about you, but to me this is

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted like this? set editor=vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'mail Almost. You can only use the mail 'thingie' in a macro definition, $editor is just the editor variable. Thanks Maarten, got it now.

Re: macros or hook?

2002-01-24 Thread Maarten den Braber
* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020124 22:13]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted like this? set editor=vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'mail Almost. You can only use the mail 'thingie' in a macro definition, $editor

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park blurted He said I'm looking for a browser that supports javascript. I don't know about you, but to me this is equivalent to What browsers support javascript? Is this thread still going? You two are like a couple

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 24, Derek D. Martin [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: At some point hitherto, David T-G hath spake thusly: Unless I've misunderstood (and need correction), you've mixed two different items: traditional checking (accomplished via esc-P) and on-demand verifying (accomplished through various

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-24 Thread Ross A. Osborn
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:11:16PM -0500, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! Preben Randhol spake thus: No he didn't ask for that. He said he used lynx. I said w3m is better, but it isn't when you use the browser with a screenreader then lynx is better. He said I'm looking for a browser

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Gary Johnson spake thus: 2. I got tired of explaining text-only MUAs to them only to receive comments like, I guess Unix isn't very good if it can't even display different colors and fonts like my PC can. When are you guys going to start using Windows? Yeah, Unix really

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »David T-G« am 2002-01-24 um 14:48:30 -0500 : ... and even clickable if you're running under eterm, IIRC. Check the gnome-term (and I think also the KDE konsole) also feature this. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english)

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Preben Randhol
Drekka mer D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (19:34) : Sorry I misspelled your name. :) The point is, it's very, very easy to forge mail to mailing lists (or not to mailing lists, for that matter). It's much harder to forge a valid, signed mail, because you need access to the

Can't display HTML mails

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi! Since recently, when I try to display a HTML from within the viewer (ie. I press 'v' to get the attachment viewer and then select the HTML attachment), I get this error message: fopen: File exists (errno = 17) Well, how comes? My .mailcap contains this: text/html; w3m -T text/html %s It

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Ross A. Osborn blurted Is anybody else getting tired of this debate? Could you fellas take this off-line somewhere? No! Don't kill it now, I was there at the begining and I've come over all parental at thought of killing such a

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Preben Randhol« am 2002-01-24 um 11:59:01 +0100 : I have just installed gnupg on my system and set it up. I wonder how ever why people sign their mails to mailinglists? Perhaps there is Unknown. It doesn't add any security but just wastes bandwith. Alexander Skwar -- How to

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Will Yardley
Preben Randhol wrote: [i'll respond to both posts since i held my tongue on the first for a while] Drekka mer D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/01/2002 (19:34) : The point is, it's very, very easy to forge mail to mailing lists (or not to mailing lists, for that matter). It's much

Re: Can't display HTML mails

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Alexander 'Digital Projects' Skwar« am 2002-01-24 um 22:52:09 +0100 : Hi! Since recently, when I try to display a HTML from within the viewer (ie. I press 'v' to get the attachment viewer and then select the HTML attachment), I get this error message: fopen: File exists (errno

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Mike Schiraldi
also, since most people on the list don't know you in real life, all they know is that you're the same person who has always been writing email under that name and with that PGP key. there's no real advantage to doing this IMHO in most cases. I disagree -- if Thomas didn't sign all his

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Preben Randhol hath spake thusly: matter). It's much harder to forge a valid, signed mail, because you need access to the victim's PGP _private_ key, and their passphrase. Yes but who knows? I just get information from gnupg that it cannot verify the signed posts

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Jeremy Blosser hath spake thusly: IIRC, recently someone posted a macro that would essentially perform Esc-P on every message in a folder. I spent the morning combing through the archives, but I couldn't find it.

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:18:43PM -0500 I heard the voice of Brian Clark, and lo! it spake thus: :0: * ^From.*pc-html-user@domain\.com /dev/null Actually, I've found that this: if(/^Content-Type: text\/html/) to $MBOXDIR/crap catches more of my spam than any other of my off-the-cuff

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread David Champion
On 2002.01.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, since most people on the list don't know you in real life, all they know is that you're the same person who has always been writing email under that name and with that PGP key. there's no real

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 24, Brian Clark [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: OK, maybe I'm not getting something about GnuPG and/or Mutt's interaction with GnuPG, then (Nope, not being sarcastic here). If I set this thing to verify all signatures, and I have my keyserver settings in place, every single key that I

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Clark
* Matthew D. Fuller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 24. 2002 18:29]: Actually, I've found that this: if(/^Content-Type: text\/html/) to $MBOXDIR/crap catches more of my spam than any other of my off-the-cuff heuristics (I mean, like at factor of 2 more, and seemingly more than the rest

Re: [OT] html email

2002-01-24 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:36:28 -0600 From: Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] html email On Jan 24, Matthew D. Fuller [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Actually, I've found that this: if(/^Content-Type: text\/html/) to $MBOXDIR/crap catches

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Clark
* Jeremy Blosser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 24. 2002 18:34]: On Jan 24, Brian Clark [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: OK, maybe I'm not getting something about GnuPG and/or Mutt's interaction with GnuPG, then (Nope, not being sarcastic here). If I set this thing to verify all signatures, and I

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