Odd 'new mail' effect on new system

2007-12-06 Thread Chris G
My shell account provided by my web hosting company has been moved from a FreeBSD system to a much more modern Linux system. They have installed mutt (1.5.17 I think) for use there, I was using my own build of mutt 1.5.16 on the old BSD system. It all works pretty much the same (no change of

Re: Odd 'new mail' effect on new system

2007-12-06 Thread Christian Brabandt
Hi Chris! On Thu, 06 Dec 2007, Chris G wrote: It all works pretty much the same (no change of home directory so my muttrc is the same one) except that every time I send a mail message mutt tells me there's new mail in my sentmail folder - true enough but not very helpful! It didn't do that

Re: Odd 'new mail' effect on new system

2007-12-06 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:21:17AM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi Chris! On Thu, 06 Dec 2007, Chris G wrote: It all works pretty much the same (no change of home directory so my muttrc is the same one) except that every time I send a mail message mutt tells me there's new mail in

Re: Odd 'new mail' effect on new system

2007-12-06 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:32:24AM +, Chris G wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:21:17AM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi Chris! On Thu, 06 Dec 2007, Chris G wrote: It all works pretty much the same (no change of home directory so my muttrc is the same one) except that every

Re: searching in sent

2007-12-06 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Hi, yes, absolutely; ~b stas does find stas What I mean is that when I am in my inbox folder, I usually have to look for an email from somebody; what I usually do is to look for that somebody and then order the folder according to the sender, this way I can quickly look for the email I was

Re: searching in sent

2007-12-06 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
[please do not top-post] * Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-06 12:41 +0100]: I think you mean $simple_search with the default ~f %s | ~s %s. Right! Sorry, my mistake. In any case, now I have set default_hook=(~f %s !~P) | (~P ~C %s) | ~s %s in my muttrc and still / stas does

Seg fault on redirection

2007-12-06 Thread P V Mathew
Hi, Segmentation fault occurs when using the operator on command line: ~/temp/usr/bin/mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Testbody Looking up localhost... Connecting to localhost... Authenticating (LOGIN)... Segmentation fault How ever if ~/temp/usr/bin/mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] is used and we go through

Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Chris G
What's a reliable way of removing empty maildirs? Presumably it's possible but you'd have to follow some protocol that wouldn't interfere with the proper writing of messages to the maildir. Or is it simply not possible, in which case the wonderful concept of maildir not needing file locking is

Re: searching in sent

2007-12-06 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
and yet I would love to get rid of the To: thing... I don't have a From: in my inbox... it's a word repeated unnecessary as many times as email I have sent... I know I have sent them, it's the SENT folder... 2007/12/6, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why did you set default_hook and not

locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Mauro Sacchetto
I've an address for outgoing mail (with my provider's domain) and a local one ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). When I send local mail, in the header I fond always, as From field, the external address. There is a way to tell Mutt to use the external address only for outgoing emails and the internal one for

Re: searching in sent

2007-12-06 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Why did you set default_hook and not simple_search? This is mentioned in the mail you are replying to. Nicolas -- http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas because I am preparing a big move to another country and I didn't look carefully? my excuses, my fault thanks a lot Pau

Re: searching in sent

2007-12-06 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-06 14:15 +0100]: and yet I would love to get rid of the To: thing... I don't have a From: in my inbox... it's a word repeated unnecessary as many times as email I have sent... I know I have sent them, it's the SENT folder... Redefine

Re: Saving outgoing and incoming messages in same folder

2007-12-06 Thread Rado S
=- John Magolske wrote on Wed 5.Dec'07 at 20:50:00 -0800 -= I was ready to send this message as a question to the list when one last round of searching brought this answer...figured I'd send it anyway to maybe increase the odds of finding for others searching out a similar solution. John++

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Rado S
=- Chris G wrote on Thu 6.Dec'07 at 13:03:13 + -= What's a reliable way of removing empty maildirs? Presumably it's possible but you'd have to follow some protocol that wouldn't interfere with the proper writing of messages to the maildir. chmod a-w dir/new rm -rf dir -- © Rado S. --

Re: locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Rado S
=- Mauro Sacchetto wrote on Thu 6.Dec'07 at 14:16:02 +0100 -= I've an address for outgoing mail (with my provider's domain) and a local one ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). When I send local mail, in the header I fond always, as From field, the external address. There is a way to tell Mutt to use the

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, December 6 at 04:46 PM, quoth Rado S: =- Chris G wrote on Thu 6.Dec'07 at 13:03:13 + -= What's a reliable way of removing empty maildirs? Presumably it's possible but you'd have to follow some protocol that wouldn't interfere

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:03:20AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Thursday, December 6 at 04:46 PM, quoth Rado S: =- Chris G wrote on Thu 6.Dec'07 at 13:03:13 + -= What's a reliable way of removing empty maildirs? Presumably it's possible but you'd have to follow some protocol that

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, December 6 at 11:40 AM, quoth Paul Hoffman: chmod a-w dir/new if [ `find dir -type f` ] ; then You have to do something like this instead: found=`find dir -type f` if -n $found ; then At least on my system (Mac OS X 10.3 =

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:40:04AM -0500, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:03:20AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Thursday, December 6 at 04:46 PM, quoth Rado S: =- Chris G wrote on Thu 6.Dec'07 at 13:03:13 + -= What's a reliable way of removing empty maildirs?

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:47:53AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Thursday, December 6 at 11:40 AM, quoth Paul Hoffman: chmod a-w dir/new if [ `find dir -type f` ] ; then You have to do something like this instead: found=`find dir -type f` if -n $found ; then At least on my

Re: Mixmaster

2007-12-06 Thread Francesco Ciattaglia
* Brian Salter-Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06.12.07 21:31]: Is anyone using the mixmaster support in mutt? I ask merely because I was involved in improving this about 7 years ago, and I'm curious. I have no intention of ever using it again. The support is for a very old version of Mixmaster and

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, December 6 at 03:31 PM, quoth Paul Hoffman: Or using backticks: if [ `find dir -type f` ]; then I don't know if that's any more portable, though. Backticks aren't any more portable, I don't think... but it doesn't matter too

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread A Darren Dunham
chmod a-w dir/new if [ `find dir -type f` ] ; then You have to do something like this instead: [snip other responses] Perhaps I've misunderstood the reason for doing this, but I would just ask find to do a rmdir, and let it fail if the directory isn't empty. find dir -depth -type d -exec

Re: locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Mauro Sacchetto
Alle giovedì 6 dicembre 2007, Rado S ha scritto: I've an address for outgoing mail (with my provider's domain) and a local one ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). When I send local mail, in the header I fond always, as From field, the external address. There is a way to tell Mutt to use the external

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, December 6 at 09:15 PM, quoth A Darren Dunham: Perhaps I've misunderstood the reason for doing this, but I would just ask find to do a rmdir, and let it fail if the directory isn't empty. find dir -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} \;

Re: locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, December 6 at 10:36 PM, quoth Mauro Sacchetto: Alle giovedì 6 dicembre 2007, Rado S ha scritto: I've an address for outgoing mail (with my provider's domain) and a local one ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). When I send local mail, in the header

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 09:15:10PM +, A Darren Dunham wrote: chmod a-w dir/new if [ `find dir -type f` ] ; then You have to do something like this instead: [snip other responses] Perhaps I've misunderstood the reason for doing this, but I would just ask find to do a rmdir, and

Re: locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Mauro Sacchetto
Alle giovedì 6 dicembre 2007, Kyle Wheeler ha scritto: Yes. When you use the ^ in your pattern, you're telling it to match the beginning of the address (the $ at the end tells it to match the end of the address). Thus [EMAIL PROTECTED] will ONLY match @debian and nothing else---it will not

Re: locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, December 6 at 11:35 PM, quoth Mauro Sacchetto: If you use this hook instead: send-hook '~t @debian$' 'my_hdr From: Mutt User [EMAIL PROTECTED]' ...then it WILL match all three examples I listed above, but will NOT match

Re: Mixmaster

2007-12-06 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 09:51:44PM +0100, Francesco Ciattaglia wrote: * Brian Salter-Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06.12.07 21:31]: Is anyone using the mixmaster support in mutt? I ask merely because I was involved in improving this about 7 years ago, and I'm curious. I have no intention of ever

Re: locale and external address

2007-12-06 Thread Mauro Sacchetto
Alle giovedì 6 dicembre 2007, Kyle Wheeler ha scritto: But when I controll in inbox after the delivering of email, When you control in inbox? I don't understand what you're talking about. I mean that, after receiving the email, it stays in inbox. In the header of this (seceived) mail, i find

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Michael Endsley
I needed to empty some subdirectories and this is what I did: du test 4 test/cur 4 test/tmp 4 test/new 16 test Nothing in the test directory, so I deleted it. On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:28:26PM +, Chris G wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 09:15:10PM +, A Darren

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Dec2007 21:15, A Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | chmod a-w dir/new | if [ `find dir -type f` ] ; then | | You have to do something like this instead: | [snip other responses] | | Perhaps I've misunderstood the reason for doing this, but I would just | ask find to do a rmdir,

Re: Reliable/safe way of removing empty maildirs?

2007-12-06 Thread Todd Zullinger
Cameron Simpson wrote: Yeah, but without even invoking find: rmdir dir/new dir/tmp dir/cur dir \ || mkdir -p dir/new dir/tmp dir/cur Robust, safe, trivial. Hooray for simplicity. :) People always seem to forget that rmdir is perfectly safe, in that it won't remove empty directories.