Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-13 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Brian Salter-Duke wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 07:04:39AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: At home, I'm using Cygwin's mutt package and it just happens to have +BUFFY_SIZE configured. Just a comment. I compiled 1.5.18 out of the box on Cygwin and I do not have that set. I am not

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Cameron Simpson wrote: No need. For unvisited mboxen the behaviour is already ok. It is that mutt's sync of the folder on exit sets mtime==atime that causes the trouble. For some people that's what they want (I've visited it so don't bug me until something _extra_ arrives) but for the

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Wu, Yue wrote: Thank you, 'check_mbox_size' does the trick. Hmm, how is the partition with the mboxes mounted? This option only exists for setups where access/modification time cannot be reliably used to detect new mail. Filesystems can be mounted to not update atime as that causes disk

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Wu, Yue wrote: Currently, I find that if I enter to a mbox, then quit from it, the mbox's N mark will be removed, no matter whether there are news mails in it or not, not what I think preference for me. Can I configure it? I have set the mark_old=no Hmm, is this by any chance the same

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-05-12, Rocco Rutte pd...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, * Wu, Yue wrote: Thank you, 'check_mbox_size' does the trick. Hmm, how is the partition with the mboxes mounted? This option only exists for setups where access/modification time cannot be reliably used to detect new mail.

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Wu, Yue wrote: Currently, I find that if I enter to a mbox, then quit from it, the mbox's N mark will be removed, no matter whether there are news mails in it or not, not what I think preference for me. Can I configure it? I have set the mark_old=no Sorry for the noise. This is just for

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Wu, Yue
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 09:40:52AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: Hi, * Wu, Yue wrote: Thank you, 'check_mbox_size' does the trick. Hmm, how is the partition with the mboxes mounted? This option only exists for setups where access/modification time cannot be reliably used to detect new

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 07:04:39AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2009-05-12, Rocco Rutte pd...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, * Wu, Yue wrote: Thank you, 'check_mbox_size' does the trick. Hmm, how is the partition with the mboxes mounted? This option only exists for setups where

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-12 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-05-13, Brian Salter-Duke b_d...@bigpond.net.au wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 07:04:39AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: At home, I'm using Cygwin's mutt package and it just happens to have +BUFFY_SIZE configured. Just a comment. I compiled 1.5.18 out of the box on Cygwin and I do

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Gerard Robin
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:37:16PM +0800, Wu, Yue wrote: From: Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com To: mutt-users@mutt.org Subject: Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:13:54AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: Say, I have many mailboxes that have many new

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-11-09 01:38]: On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:13:54AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: I feel mutt's logic is 100% correct.. telling me there are _new_ posts on top of stuff I intially couldn't be bothered to delete and not take into account whatever garbage I didn't

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:03:39AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-11-09 01:38]: On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:13:54AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: I feel mutt's logic is 100% correct.. telling me there are _new_ posts on top of stuff I intially couldn't be

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Derek Martin wrote: This is exactly what the OP was complaining about, and I completely agree with him. It's highly inconvenient, if you have a lot of mbox folders with unread e-mail in them, to go back and figure out which ones you care about. NO OTHER MAILER HAS THIS PROBLEM, as

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-05-11, Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:13:54AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: I think mutt's logic makes excellent sense .. Especially in this list, I routinely get mail that I couldn't care less about .. from regular posters I know are past redemption..

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 04:48:20PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: Strange. I cannot reproduce this with $check_mbox_size unset, i.e. use atime vs. mtime to detect new mail. And since I cannot reproduce it, I cannot fix it. Attached is a patch that's supposed to reset times in case an mbox folder

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Wu, Yue
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:49:16AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2009-05-11, Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com wrote: Say, I have many mailboxes that have many new messages, but now I have no so much time to see all of them, so I quickly enter mailboxes one by one, then just pick the message

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-11 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 11May2009 08:25, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org wrote: | On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:03:39AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: | The individual messages are still flagged as net but the mbox | container files is not. You have lost nothing except a notice that | the container is not new. |

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-10 Thread Wu, Yue
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:13:54AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: I think mutt's logic makes excellent sense .. Especially in this list, I routinely get mail that I couldn't care less about .. from regular posters I know are past redemption.. I don't see why I should go to the trouble of

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-09 Thread Wu, Yue
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:13:54AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: I totally disagree. I think mutt's logic makes excellent sense .. Especially in this list, I routinely get mail that I couldn't care less about .. from regular posters I know are past redemption.. I don't see why I should go

How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new emails?

2009-05-08 Thread Wu, Yue
Currently, I find that if I enter to a mbox, then quit from it, the mbox's N mark will be removed, no matter whether there are news mails in it or not, not what I think preference for me. Can I configure it? I have set the mark_old=no -- Hi, Wu, Yue

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new emails?

2009-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 10:19]: Currently, I find that if I enter to a mbox, then quit from it, the mbox's N mark will be removed, no matter whether there are news mails in it or not, not what I think preference for me. Can I configure it? I have set the mark_old=no Then you

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Wu, Yue
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 10:24:30AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 10:19]: Currently, I find that if I enter to a mbox, then quit from it, the mbox's N mark will be removed, no matter whether there are news mails in it or not, not what I think preference

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com [05-08-09 12:21]: * Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 11:20]: No, just new emails remain the new mark, but the mbox that contains them not. Ah, then you must correct those that have already been marked O. t~O;N return My bad, sb: T~0;N

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 18:26]: Do you me I should fix it manually? :^), yes From the manpage of muttrc, it says mark_old is for: Controls whether or not mutt marks new unread messages as old if you exit a mailbox without reading them. So it's for message, not for

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-05-08, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com wrote: * Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 18:26]: Do you me I should fix it manually? :^), yes From the manpage of muttrc, it says mark_old is for: Controls whether or not mutt marks new unread messages as old if you

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Gary Johnson garyj...@spocom.com [05-08-09 19:57]: I don't think this is Wu Yue's problem, Patrick. I could be wrong, but as I understand him, he is opening a mailbox, leaving some of the messages unread, then changing to another mailbox, then checking to see which mailboxes contain new

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Wu, Yue
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:37:45PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 18:26]: From the manpage of muttrc, it says mark_old is for: Controls whether or not mutt marks new unread messages as old if you exit a mailbox without reading them. So it's

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Wu, Yue
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 04:53:50PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: I don't think this is Wu Yue's problem, Patrick. I could be wrong, but as I understand him, he is opening a mailbox, leaving some of the messages unread, then changing to another mailbox, then checking to see which mailboxes

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com [05-08-09 20:26]: It more likely is that he expects a folder with new mail to have the N flag for the folder which contains new mail but not newer than his last access to that folder. No, I expect the N flag always there, no matter the access time, if has

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread John J. Foster
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:17:37PM +0800, Wu, Yue wrote: No, just new emails remain the new mark, but the mbox that contains them not. On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 10:24:30AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: I could be totally off the mark here, but I believe the problem is mutt's interpretation of

Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 09:15:47PM EDT, John J. Foster wrote: I could be totally off the mark here, but I believe the problem is mutt's interpretation of new mail vs. your (and my) interpretation of new mail (unread mail). I have always believed, and still do, that unread mail is the same as