RE: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Of the customers I've had to shut off for being DOS targets, all are windows boxen. Perhaps there is a new windows exploit? Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Greetings, It looks like all hell is breaking loose on some of the nations backbones. http://www.internethealthreport.com The port counters on my ATT DS3 were reading in the 250 megabit range, that is a DS3, mind you. Any source IP's I can add to the circular file would be appreciated. Any

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Josh Richards
* Avleen Vig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20030124 22:44]: It seems we have a new worm hitting Microsoft SQL server servers on port 1434. A preliminary look at some of our NetFlow data shows a suspect ICMP payload delivered to one of our downstream colo customer boxes followed by a 70 Mbit/s burst

fyi (fwd)

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, [EMAIL PROTECTED], latency, Al Reuben -- --Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net -- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:50:34 -0500 From: Tim Yocum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

RE: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Andrew Staples
Not just L3Genuity is getting whacked. ELI is getting whacked. Somebody needs to be gelded. Andrew

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
This is definately a world-wide problem. Many networks are reporting all sorts of things. Nothing clear, except that it's all aimed at 1434. 01:28:33.331686 64.21.34.210.28295 238.192.142.61.1434: udp 376 [ttl 1] 01:28:33.331720 207.99.21.121.1917 226.39.19.228.1434: udp 376 [ttl 1]

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Phil Rosenthal
On 1/25/03 2:00 AM, Christopher J. Wolff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, It looks like all hell is breaking loose on some of the nations backbones. http://www.internethealthreport.com The port counters on my ATT DS3 were reading in the 250 megabit range, that is a DS3, mind you.

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread matthew zeier
Internap has posted an alert noting widespread latency and packetloss affecting all their pnaps. Any SQL Server host at my facilily shows an enourmous traffic spike at the times below. We've begun filtering udp port 1434 in/out. - Original Message - From: Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread william
Really, really bad - most traffic I see is from this virus/dos: Extended IP access list 152 deny udp any any eq 1434 (5639464 matches) - 94% permit ip any any (311888 matches) - 6% Wow!!! On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really bad. Quick capture of filter drops:

New worm/DOS/Level3 routing issues

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
repost* Forgive me if this shows up twice. Mail is flaked via this smtp, and the last time I sent this, I accidentally sent it to the individual and not list. heh. Temporary block in place. My border cpu was starting to hammer up. Outbound stat about 2 minutes later: deny udp any any eq

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Adam \Tauvix\ Debus
We were hit hard by this as well. It appears to be a buffer overflow exploit, as blocking the ports on my router and restarting MS SQL put a stop to it. Thanks, Adam Debus Network Administrator, ReachONE Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Avleen Vig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Matthew Kaufman
We are also seeing this traffic at AS4436. Appears to be coming from IP addresses all over the space. Here's a box that traps all of 165.227.0.0/16: 23:08:13.257197 165.194.123.131.1227 165.227.92.176.1434: udp 376 23:08:13.259778 129.187.150.78.2667 165.227.84.186.1434: udp 376

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Adam Korab
Hey Blaine, On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:53:49AM -0600, Blaine Kahle wrote: Same symptoms here. After disabling MS SQL, which required a reboot as the process didn't want to shut down normally, the traffic stopped. I found 3 boxes on our network that were generating massive amounts of

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Dave Stewart Lots of traffic on udp port 1434 coming in here via TW Telecom and Sprint Looks like we may have a winner for DDoS of the year (so far) Temporary block in place. My border cpu was starting to hammer up. Outbound stat about 2 minutes later: deny udp any any eq 1434

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
MS SQL, or SQL Monitor? On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Blaine Kahle wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:05:42AM -0500, Kevin Welch wrote: I am seeing similar traffic loads on my network at this hour, one of our MS SQL servers seemed to be sending a large amount of traffic out to the Internet.

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 02:45 AM 1/25/2003 -0600, Jack Bates wrote: From: Mike Tancsa Yes, I am seeing this big time. Are you sure its SQL server ? Thats normally 1433 no ? Are there any other details somewhere about this ? snip All MS SQL servers listen to 1434 reguardless of the other ports they listen

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Doug Barton
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: Greetings, It looks like all hell is breaking loose on some of the nations backbones. http://www.internethealthreport.com The port counters on my ATT DS3 were reading in the 250 megabit range, that is a DS3, mind you. Any source IP's I

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Gary Coates
Duplicated info.. But this is an old worm ;-( http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-1996-01.html Pete Ashdown wrote: * Avleen Vig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030124 23:50] writeth: It seems we have a new worm hitting Microsoft SQL server servers on port 1434. Affirmative. Be sure to block 1434 UDP

SQL Server Worm?

2003-01-25 Thread Dave Stewart
I can't say for certain, not having taken an exhaustive look (it is, after all, almost 3 in the morning out here on the right coast), but on the one MS SQL server here, there do not appear to be new files installed, and after rebooting, the server is *not* spewing forth traffic as it was

1434 traffic

2003-01-25 Thread Sean Donelan
What I'm seeing from on my personal network connections is a lot of traffic to udp port 1434 start at 05:30:08 UTC. The sources appear very widespread, but I'm also seeing different affects on networks. Some backbones are being hit extremely hard, while others are just moderately impacted. I

RE: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Kevin Welch
Same results here, shut down SQL problem went away... started it back up.. problem started again, so I shut them all down. One side note all the egress traffic headed out UU.NET, not our CW or Sprint DS3's... since we have full routes from all carriers this may be an indicator of the

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Josh Richards
* Josh Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20030124 23:25]: Same here. We first saw what looked like a DoS at about 09:00 PST. We're seeing strange stuff all over the place. Oops, meant to say 09:30 PST. -jr Josh Richards jrichard@{ geekresearch.com, cubicle.net, digitalwest.net } Geek

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Mikael Abrahamsson What kind of traffic levels are you seeing? With a handful of /16 etc we're not seeing more than 5-10 megabits of traffic according to my global transit graphs. People who havent null routed their unused prefixes properly will probably see a lot of problems though

New MS SQL Exploit DOS Attack started tonight at 12:30AM EST (GMT -0500)

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Boyle
Everyone, I don't know what is causing this, but we had several customer machines (which we don't manage) affected tonight. The common thread is that all were running an unpatched MS SQL Server. This new worm seems to create MASSIVE network traffic which propagates outbound. Somehow it seems

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread George William Herbert
Has someone reported the details to CERT yet? Preferably someone who's got logs and such? -george william herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

this attack is still strong here..

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] show firewall filter proactive-filter NameBytes Packets mssql-drops 916252204 2267951 term NO-MSSQL { from { packet-length

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:12:37AM -0800, Mike Leber wrote: We are seeing this too. We are seeing the gige interfaces on multiple customer aggregation switches at multiple locations add several hundred Mbps each. All the traffic is destined for udp port 1434 with a randomized source

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Adam \Tauvix\ Debus
1434 is the SQL Server Resolution Service. Unfortunately, this appears to be a whole new thing, I was unable to find anything more recent then May of 2002 about security issues with this port. Thanks, Adam Debus Network Administrator, ReachONE Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Mike Tancsa Yes, I am seeing this big time. Are you sure its SQL server ? Thats normally 1433 no ? Are there any other details somewhere about this ? snip All MS SQL servers listen to 1434 reguardless of the other ports they listen on. Depending on configuration depends on what

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Gary Coates
Appears to relate to this cert advisory http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-1996-01.html We have it totally blocked on our network but the routers are working over time just rejecting packets. The only way to stop it is to stop MySQL or kill the hosts network connection. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Dr. Mosh
We had to go through each VLAN to determine which boxes were compromised, looks like W2K SQL. This thing is spreading fast. -D 0. Pete Ashdown [EMAIL PROTECTED] farted: * Avleen Vig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030124 23:50] writeth: It seems we have a new worm hitting Microsoft SQL server

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Scott Call
I'm seeing obscene amounts of 1434/udp traffic at my transit and peering points. I've filtered it out in both directions everywhere my network touches the outside world. It's almost 20% of my traffic at this point. I think I've calmed the internal storm so far, but we'll see. I saw refence to

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Josh Richards
Note, further analysis makes me believe that the ICMP we saw immediately beforehand was a coincidence and unrelated. The origin of the ICMP has been traced to a customer application. -jr * Josh Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20030125 00:21]: A preliminary look at some of our NetFlow data shows

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Doug Barton wrote: Anyone want to get involved in some sort of real time chat (like IRC) to disuss strategies? We're seeing some pretty big traffic, and related problems in multiple colo's world wide. What's to discuss? If you put something like access-list 150 deny udp

Tracing where it started

2003-01-25 Thread Phil Rosenthal
Hello, It might be interesting if some people were to post when they received their first attack packet, and where it came from, if they happened to be logging. Here is the first packet we logged: Jan 25 00:29:37 EST 216.66.11.120 --Phil ISPrime

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:05:33AM +, Gary Coates wrote: Duplicated info.. But this is an old worm ;-( http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-1996-01.html This is not the worm that's spreading now. Greetz, Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.dataloss.nl/ | Undernet:#clue

Re: dos of the week? was RE: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Eric Gauthier
my transit traffic doubled (luckily it is the low time of the night for me) from 10-12ish I work at a really large east coast University. Our sensors show the problem starting between 12:30-12:45am this morning... Eric :)

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread fingers
Hi Any ranges I find I'll echo back to the list. not sure if you've received any nanog mail yet. don't worry about source ip's, unless you're doing to deny '0.0.0.0'. block anything with a destination of udp 1434, find hosts pushing extreme amounts of traffic, get them patched

Re: nanog list delayed again

2003-01-25 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: Does it really have to be this time everytime something happens and it actually would be nice to get the information out quickly? In this case there may be a causal relationship between the two. Being a mailing list server can't be a fun job when

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:12:37AM -0800, Mike Leber wrote: We are seeing this too. We are seeing the gige interfaces on multiple customer aggregation switches at multiple locations add several hundred Mbps each. All the traffic is destined

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:13:30AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: Lots of traffic on udp port 1434 coming in here via TW Telecom and Sprint Looks like we may have a winner for DDoS of the year (so far) What kind of traffic

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Somebody remind me why Microsoft is still allowed to exist? Dunno, arent they negligent? In any other industry a fundemental flaw would be met with lawsuits, in the computer world tho people seem to get around for some reason. Steve

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Blaine Kahle
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:57:16AM -0500, Alex Rubenstein wrote: MS SQL, or SQL Monitor? Are those two separate programs? I don't know; I'm not a windows guy. I just watched over the shoulders of a few other techs as they shut what appeared to be everything-MSSQL down. I just found the

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread C. Jon Larsen
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: [snip] Let's not blame MS for admins who don't know how to secure their boxes :-) A patch was released mid-2002 and was also part of SQL Server SP3 Would it not also be a good idea/practice *not* to ever let a MS SQL server (or *any* database server)

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Len Rose
http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-January/003718.html

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Eric Gauthier Woot! We made the front page of CNN.com: Electronic attack slows Internet http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/01/25/internet.attack/index.html Guess that USD10 goes to some unnamed reporter at CNN And please tell me how CodeRed was worse? I'm sorry, this just

Re: FW: Worm / UDP1434

2003-01-25 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Freedman David wrote: Anybody here on list using Extreme products (Summit/Alpine/Blackdiamond)? We extensively use extreme networks products in our core, distribution and access. The roadrunner chipset units (Summit24/48) (used mainly for access) dies if you try to put

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
From what I have read and researched, it does. On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Jack Bates wrote: From: Avleen Vig snip Let's not blame MS for admins who don't know how to secure their boxes :-) A patch was released mid-2002 and was also part of SQL Server SP3 Has it been verified

Re: Worm / UDP1434

2003-01-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
Anybody here on list using Extreme products (Summit/Alpine/Blackdiamond)? They sure don't like this traffic one bit. It causes them to not only drop traffic, but spew out every available error message under the sun... Extreme are apparently assembling an advisory TAC on this, from our

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread K. Scott Bethke
BIll, - Original Message - From: Bill Woodcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd agree with it. Except the herds of losers who still buy exploding crap from Vendor M don't seem to be thinning themselves out quickly dude, the Exploding Cars are so much easier to drive than the ones from Vendor L.

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:41PM -0500, C. Jon Larsen wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: [snip] Let's not blame MS for admins who don't know how to secure their boxes :-) A patch was released mid-2002 and was also part of SQL Server SP3 Would it not also be a good

Re: Worm / UDP1434

2003-01-25 Thread K. Scott Bethke
David, - Original Message - From: Freedman David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody here on list using Extreme products (Summit/Alpine/Blackdiamond)? They sure don't like this traffic one bit. It causes them to not only drop traffic, but spew out every available error message under the sun...

Re: UDP 1432

2003-01-25 Thread Lou Katz
Another data point - I get connectivity through sonic.net (Santa Rosa). This vanished between Fri Jan 24 21:30:00 PST 2003 and Fri Jan 24 21:35:00 PST 2003. At that time, connectivity on other circuits through ALTER.NET, megapath.net and mfnx.net were still ok. All circuits seem to be up now

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
Would it not also be a good idea/practice *not* to ever let a MS SQL server (or *any* database server) sit on a network that is directly accessible from the internet ? Having a firewall(s) in front of your database server regardless of the type is pretty much common sense, right? Its

Re: Tracing where it started

2003-01-25 Thread Clayton Fiske
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:58:46AM -0500, Phil Rosenthal wrote: It might be interesting if some people were to post when they received their first attack packet, and where it came from, if they happened to be logging. Here is the first packet we logged: Jan 25 00:29:37 EST 216.66.11.120

RE: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Marc Maiffret
Codered was worse by the sheer number of hosts that were infected and in the end having a lot more impact than what the SQL Sapphire worm has shown. Now that is not to say this worm does not surpass CodeRed... however it still has its work cut out for it. Last I heard the number of infections

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Marc Slemko
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Alex Rubenstein wrote: Including the developers of SSHD, HTTPD, NAMED, CVS? How about Linus? Wanna call him up? I am no windows cheerleader, but to think this is something that happens only in windows-land is whack -- might as well put your head in the sand. It is

OK, this is rich

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/ Main story: Electronic attack hits Net A fast-moving computer worm slowed down Internet access Saturday for about 22,000 servers, according to the Internet security firm Symantec. Oliver Friedrichs, a senior manager with Symantec, said the SQL worm was taking advantage

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Daniel Senie
At 11:56 AM 1/25/2003, Bill Woodcock wrote: Dunno, arent they negligent? In any other industry a fundemental flaw would be met with lawsuits, in the computer world tho people seem to get around for some reason. Not true, look at cars and recalls. Also as I

Re: New worm / port 1434?

2003-01-25 Thread Curtis Maurand
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sqlexp.wor m.html - Original Message - From: Simon Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Avleen Vig [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:48 AM Subject: Re: New worm /

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
Not sure you can claim something you have for free is liable or with guarantee Thats total rubbish. Whether you pay for it or not shouldn't matter. You might also want to consider reading the various software agreement licenses that come with various pieces of software both free and

FW: FYI - Cisco - Status as of Sat Jan 25...Global worm attack seems related to SQL 2000...see below for patches from Microsoft (available as of 7/17/02).]

2003-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Meltzer
- According to this article from the Associated Press: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2ncid=716e=3u=/ap/2003012 5/ap_on_hi_te/internet_attack http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2ncid=716e=3u=/ap/20030125 /ap_on_hi_te/internet_attack The attack sought to exploit a software flaw

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
I think you are on the right lines below in suggesting that products and services should be supplied safe and not require additional maintenance out of the box to make them so (additional changes should make them weaker) There is no such thing as safe! You have control over what risks you

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread K. Scott Bethke
On 1/25/03 2:53 PM, Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that these problems aren't from 'well behaved' hosts, and 'well behaved' hosts normally listen to ECN/tcp-window/Red/WRED classic DoS attack scenario. :( Well not everyone plays fair out there. I imagine

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
On Saturday 25 January 2003 10:03 am, Avleen Vig wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:41PM -0500, C. Jon Larsen wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: [snip] Let's not blame MS for admins who don't know how to secure their boxes :-) A patch was released mid-2002

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Rob Thomas wrote: ] access-list 150 deny udp any any eq 1434 log-input Be _very_ careful about enabling such logging. Some of the worm flows have filled GigE pipes. I doubt you really want to log that; Netflow

Re: W32.SqlSlammer

2003-01-25 Thread K. Scott Bethke
Drew, There *IS* a difference between windows SP3 and Microsoft SQL2000 SP3.. you do know that right? -Scotty By the way, I know you guys probably don't care but McAfee is saying that if you have SP3 on your windows2000 server you will not be infected with SQLSlammer, this is absolutely

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
Third point to the correlation above: The vast majority of Windows admins are dingbat-morons, self-proclaimed experts. Had then not been dingbat-morons, and applied the readily available and widely announced patches (as zealously as unix folks patch thier stuff), this'd be all moot, and we'd

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Neil J. McRae wrote: I think you are on the right lines below in suggesting that products and services should be supplied safe and not require additional maintenance out of the box to make them so (additional changes should make them weaker) There is no such thing

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, K. Scott Bethke wrote: BIll, - Original Message - From: Bill Woodcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd agree with it. Except the herds of losers who still buy exploding crap from Vendor M don't seem to be thinning themselves out quickly dude, the Exploding Cars are

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 12:20:41PM -0500, C. Jon Larsen wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: [snip] Let's not blame MS for admins who don't know how to secure their boxes :-) A patch was released mid-2002 and was also part

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:08:22PM +, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Also; everyone who just posted to this list made it abundantly clear that they don't have a firewall in front of at least one MS SQL server on their network. Should you really have port 1433/4 open to the world? Would you

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert A. Hayden
What about doing some priority-based QoS? If a single IP exceeds X amount of traffic, prioritize traffic above that threshold as low. It would keep any one single host from saturating a link if the threshold is low. For example, you may say that each IP is limited to 10mb of prioirty traffic.

Re: W32.SqlSlammer

2003-01-25 Thread Dave Stewart
At 02:21 PM 1/25/2003, you wrote: By the way, I know you guys probably don't care but McAfee is saying that if you have SP3 on your windows2000 server you will not be infected with SQLSlammer, this is absolutely NOT true, I have a box with sp3 and it IS infected. To clarify, we're talking

Re: 1434 traffic

2003-01-25 Thread Johannes Ullrich
What I'm seeing from on my personal network connections is a lot of traffic to udp port 1434 start at 05:30:08 UTC. I did some graphing of reports we got to DShield/ISC up to 9am EST. http://isc.sans.org/port1434start.gif The part that amazes me is the speed. It saturated within 1 minute!

Re: W32.SqlSlammer

2003-01-25 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:21:21PM -0500, Drew Weaver wrote: By the way, I know you guys probably don't care but McAfee is saying that if you have SP3 on your windows2000 server you will not be infected with SQLSlammer, this is absolutely NOT true, I have a box with sp3 and it IS infected.

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: I've not looked at any great detail into the exact sources but of the few I looked at earlier I was surprised to find them on ADSL .. these may be corporate networks this is the bit I dont know but some of them seemed to be residential, weird!

Does the Worm have another Payload besides 1434 Floods?

2003-01-25 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), SALES
So the worm is sending out tons of UDP1434 packets that let it break into MS-SQL servers and reproduce, and that's certainly annoying because of the traffic floods. But is it carrying anything else that will do more damage, or anything that leaves it a security hole to be exploited later? It

Re: Tracing where it started

2003-01-25 Thread Pete Ashdown
* Clayton Fiske ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030125 12:55] writeth: On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:58:46AM -0500, Phil Rosenthal wrote: It might be interesting if some people were to post when they received their first attack packet, and where it came from, if they happened to be logging. Here is the

Re: W32.SqlSlammer

2003-01-25 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Sat Jan 25, 2003 at 02:21:21PM -0500, Drew Weaver wrote: By the way, I know you guys probably don't care but McAfee is saying that if you have SP3 on your windows2000 server you will not be infected with SQLSlammer, this is absolutely NOT true, I have a box with sp3 and it IS infected.

Re: Tracing where it started

2003-01-25 Thread Pete Ashdown
It might be interesting if some people were to post when they received their first attack packet, and where it came from, if they happened to be logging. Here is the first packet we logged: Jan 25 00:29:37 EST 216.66.11.120 A quick followup to my previous message. I found an earlier attempt

How to find the first occurrance of the worm.

2003-01-25 Thread Ray Burkholder
Ray Burkholder -Original Message- From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 25, 2003 17:05 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [flow-tools] w32.sqlexp.worm In case anyone needs it, here is the flow-tools nfilter that I've found to match the worm that hit us...

worm design (Re: Level3 routing issues?)

2003-01-25 Thread E.B. Dreger
MS Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:17:01 -0800 (PST) MS From: Marc Slemko MS It is interesting to note that one inadvertent advantage of open MS source (when it requires people to compile from source, and pick MS and choose options at compile time... popular distributions with MS precompiled packages

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Rafi Sadowsky
## On 2003-01-25 20:04 - Stephen J. Wilcox typed: SJW SJW SJW Heres my advice to the uninitiated. Run linux, run firewalls, disable what you SJW dont need and listen to folks who have real world experience. SJW SJW Steve SJW Please don't start a flame war about this but are you

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Rafi Sadowsky wrote: ## On 2003-01-25 20:04 - Stephen J. Wilcox typed: SJW SJW SJW Heres my advice to the uninitiated. Run linux, run firewalls, disable what you SJW dont need and listen to folks who have real world experience. SJW SJW Steve SJW

Banc of America Article

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030125/tech_virus_boa_1.html Let's make the assumption that the outage of ATM's that BoA suffered was caused by last nights 'SQL Slammer' virus. The following things can then be assumed: a) BoA's network has Microsoft SQL Servers on them. b) BoA has not applied SP3

Re: Tracing where it started

2003-01-25 Thread Travis Pugh
According to Clayton Fiske: Interestingly, looking through my logs for UDP 1434, I saw a sequential scan of my subnet like so: Jan 16 08:15:51 206.176.210.74,53 - x.x.x.1,1434 PR udp len 20 33 IN Jan 16 08:15:51 206.176.210.74,53 - x.x.x.2,1434 PR udp len 20 33 IN Jan 16 08:15:51

Re: OK, this is rich

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen Milton
And don't forget to check for a conspicuously absent article on the front page of www.msn.com. On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:56:41PM -0500, Alex Rubenstein eloquently stated: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/ Main story: Electronic attack hits Net A fast-moving computer worm slowed down

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: wants to log for a while and then counts hits against the cache until it only for identical packets... so source A:123 - Dest B:80 x50 packets gets logged 'once'. One log for the first packet and update logs at 5 min intervals (which

Re: Tracing where it started

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Our first (this is EST): Jan 25 00:29:44 external.firewall1.oct.nac.net firewalld[109]: deny in eth0 404 udp 20 114 61.103.121.140 66.246.x.x 3546 14 34 (default) 61.103.121.140 = a host somewhere on GBLX On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Pete Ashdown wrote: * Clayton Fiske ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Does the Worm have another Payload besides 1434 Floods?

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Stewart, William C (Bill), SALES But is it carrying anything else that will do more damage, or anything that leaves it a security hole to be exploited later? It would be really annoying if machines that aren't cleaned up later reformat themselves or hang out waiting for further

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Robert A. Hayden What about doing some priority-based QoS? If a single IP exceeds X amount of traffic, prioritize traffic above that threshold as low. It would keep any one single host from saturating a link if the threshold is low. For example, you may say that each IP is limited

Re: Banc of America Article

2003-01-25 Thread Jack Bates
From: Alex Rubenstein Does anyone else, based upon the assumptions above, believe this statement to be patently incorrect (specifically, the part about 'personal information had not been at risk.') ? Actually, the statements are correct. Remember, the worm wasn't programmed to put the

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:10:59PM -0800, Stephen Milton wrote: We have had multiple customers who had SP3 on their boxes that were hit. SP3 was _supposed_ to include this patch, there is no verification so far that it did. Since all the providers have been blocking the attack spread

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
MS SQL SP3, _NOT_ MS Windows 2000 SP3. BIG DIFFERENCE. http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/2000/sp3.asp On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Stephen Milton wrote: We have had multiple customers who had SP3 on their boxes that were hit. SP3 was _supposed_ to include this patch, there is no

Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: Access list logging does not show every packet that matches an entry. Logging is rate-limited to avoid CPU overload. either way, the logging for this, ESPECIALLY with log-input, is a

Banc of America Article

2003-01-25 Thread Alex Rubenstein
http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030125/tech_virus_boa_1.html Let's make the assumption that the outage of ATM's that BoA suffered was caused by last nights 'SQL Slammer' virus. The following things can then be assumed: a) BoA's network has Microsoft SQL Servers on them. b) BoA has not applied SP3

Re: Banc of America Article

2003-01-25 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Alex Rubenstein wrote: Does anyone else, based upon the assumptions above, believe this statement to be patently incorrect (specifically, the part about 'personal information had not been at risk.') ? Patently incorrect? No. It is possible. Even if the confidentiality

Re: 13,000 Bank of America ATM's taken out by virus.

2003-01-25 Thread Patrick
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: Does this mean that BofA ATM's are SQL based or that BofA is running ATM traffic through some kind of internet VPN? Perhaps they just plug the ATM's into any connection and pass cleartext transactions over the internet? This is very

Re: Level3 routing issues?

2003-01-25 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:56:06AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote: Dunno, arent they negligent? In any other industry a fundemental flaw would be met with lawsuits, in the computer world tho people seem to get around for some reason. Not true, look at cars and

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