When you don't have liability you don't have to worry about quality.
What we need is lemon laws for software.
--vadim
That would destroy the free software community. You could try to exempt
free software, but then you would just succeed in destroying the 'low cost'
software
At 02:58 PM 9/1/2003, Terry Baranski wrote:
the rest of the paper is also germane to this thread. just
fya, we keep rehashing the UNimportant part of this argument,
and never progressing. (from this, i deduce that we must be humans.)
Ok, so we seem to have a general agreement that anti-spoof
Ok, so we seem to have a general agreement that anti-spoof BGP prefix
filtering on all standard customer edge links is a worthwhile practice.
actually, we don't. what we've achieved is that gray area / middle ground
where the people who don't think it's important are mostly afraid to speak
Getting it to work at all can be a challenge. Alarm circuits are not
groomed to remove stray drops that got cut at the house, not at the pole,
etc. We looked at rolling out DSL 2 years ago using our own DSL equipment
cause sprint didn't have dslams installed. They had conveniently pulled
their
On maandag, sep 1, 2003, at 20:58 Europe/Amsterdam, Terry Baranski
wrote:
the rest of the paper is also germane to this thread. just
fya, we keep rehashing the UNimportant part of this argument,
and never progressing. (from this, i deduce that we must be humans.)
Ok, so we seem to have a
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, David Schwartz wrote:
When you don't have liability you don't have to worry about quality.
What we need is lemon laws for software.
That would destroy the free software community. You could try to exempt
free software, but then you would just succeed in
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 09:44:11PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Some universities such as Vanderbilt University are automatically
shutting down network ports when they detected signature worm traffic.
Almost 25% of the students' computers were detected as infected when they
connected to the
Jared
The problem with your site is that it has the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6
In may case on dual-stack unix (sun) box dns6 is always resolved first
(properly) and then sometimes because of the latency (ipv6) it times out.
On the other hand that prevents me from going through ipv4 connection
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:32:34AM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote:
Jared
The problem with your site is that it has the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6
In may case on dual-stack unix (sun) box dns6 is always resolved first
(properly) and then sometimes because of the latency (ipv6) it times out.
On
I just brought up a BGP session with one of my providers, they are stripping
our AS as it leaves their network, so it looks like the route is originating
from their network. I have another provider that I will be bringing up BGP
with later this week. Once I bring up the other provider, I will
He shouldn't be stripping out your ASN (mostly, if that ASN is the
originator one)
-Mensaje original-
De: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes, 02 de Septiembre de 2003 03:01 p.m.
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: bgp as-path info
I just brought up a BGP session with
If you look closely, they are probably not just stripping your AS. They
are probably aggregating your network. One provider that I am aware of
that does this is ATT. Since your advertisements out the other network
will be more specific, traffic will only come through them. If the
networks are
Actually, it looks like this is what they are doing. I've already put a
call in with them.
-Original Message-
From: Jack Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Austad, Jay
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bgp as-path info
If you look
Nenad Pudar wrote:
Jared
Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is
not the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time)
The problem also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved first
forcing the connection to be ipv6 which is not something
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote:
Jared
Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not
the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time)
The problem also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved first
forcing the connection to be ipv6
OK
The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used.
And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a way
blackhole ipv4 connection.
In this case puck.nether.net is timinig out from time to time (going
over ipv6) instead of going over ipv4 network.
Joel
At 11:56 -0700 9/2/03, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote:
Jared
Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not
the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time)
The problem also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved
Nenad Pudar wrote:
OK
The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used.
And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a
way blackhole ipv4 connection.
In this case puck.nether.net is timinig out from time to time (going
over ipv6) instead of going over ipv4
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:47:14PM +0300, Petri Helenius wrote:
Nenad Pudar wrote:
OK
The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used.
And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a
way blackhole ipv4 connection.
In this case puck.nether.net is
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote:
OK
The point is that ipv6 connection is not good enough to be used.
Wrong the v6 connection for your host isn't good enough to use. It works
fine from here...
And for the sites that have the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 ipv6 in a way
blackhole ipv4
This isn't the best forum for this discussion, so this will be my last
reply.
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, David Schwartz wrote:
When you don't have liability you don't have to worry about quality.
What we need is lemon laws for software.
That would destroy the free software
My enviroment is far to be broken my friend.
This is not question about me or my environoment this question about
your site ,I can always mange to get such a sites if I want but I am not
sure that some other people are even awre what the problem is.
I think that still majority of ipv6
Nenad Pudar wrote:
My enviroment is far to be broken my friend.
This is not question about me or my environoment this question about
your site ,I can always mange to get such a sites if I want but I am
not sure that some other people are even awre what the problem is.
I think that still
(btw, for those of you who think that IPv6 isn't in use, you may now
safely ignore this thread).
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:34:18PM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote:
My enviroment is far to be broken my friend.
This is not question about me or my environoment this question about
your site ,I can
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 16:34:18 -0400
From: Nenad Pudar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My enviroment is far to be broken my friend.
This is not question about me or my environoment this question about
your site ,I can always mange to get such a sites if I want but I am not
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, David Schwartz wrote:
this will be my last reply.
David, since all your arguments are variations on You think you know
better than anyone else what they need (whereby you, supposedly, extoll
virtues of a system which you don't yourself think is the best one) I do
concur
I do not send e-maol to complain about my connection to puck.nether.net
,neither I claim I have a excelent ipv6 connection ,what triggerd
my-e-mail was the someone complining to not be able to reach your site.
I have more than few ways to making it reachable .
My e-mail was more to rise the
Nenad Pudar wrote:
Again my point is that your site (or any other that use the same dns for
ipv4 and 6) may be blackholed by ipv6 (it is not the question primary
about the quality ipv6 connction it is the fact that your ipv4
connection which may be excelant is blackholed with your ipv6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Jared Mauch wrote:
(btw, for those of you who think that IPv6 isn't in use, you may now
safely ignore this thread).
Then I will safely respond to it in that case ;)
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:34:18PM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote:
My enviroment is far to be
be fixed -- and I assure you, above all else, money talks...
While money talks, it often says the stupidest things, unfortunately.
Or maybe it is merely the folks with the most money.
My OC12 to Teleglobe in LA has been bouncing since 2pm Pacific and when I
initially called in I was told their router had crashed and rebooted.
Now I'm being told this was planned maintenance. I'm having a hard time
believing that. Anyone else seeing issues with Teleglobe in LA?
- mz
--
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 13:34:10 PDT, David Schwartz said:
Umm, makers of free software have to do this too. Even people who place
software in the public domain have to do this. This has nothing to do with
compensation and has more to do with nuisance.
Umm.. if you explicitly put it in the
32 matches
Mail list logo
