Re: Stopping open proxies and open relays

2004-02-18 Thread Guðbjörn S . Hreinsson
I am looking for ideas to stop the spam created by compromised Windows PC's. This is not about the various worms and viruses replicating but these boxes acting as open relays or open proxies. There are valid reasons not to run antivirus software, coupled with clueless users, this

RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Alex Bligh
Tony, --On 17 February 2004 17:27 -0800 Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly I misinterpreted your comments; sorry for reading other parts of the thread into your intent. The bottom line is the lack of a -scalable- trust infrastructure. You are arguing here that the technically inclined

80/udp floods?

2004-02-18 Thread Scott Call
I apologize for the potentially obvious question, but I've been through sf, google, etc and can't find anything. I have a customer that is currently getting several hundred thousand packets per second sent to them on 80/udp. /etc/services lists 80/udp as IANA assigned for http but I've never

Re: Open, anonymous services and dealing with abuse

2004-02-18 Thread Michael . Dillon
Everybody thinks if its not us, we don't have problem so we dont want to spend anything to fix it - bu its not true, you already are paying for it due to increased cost of operation. The cost of fixing your own network even 50% of other ISPs did it, would in the end be smaller. The cost of

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Michael . Dillon
* No authentication scheme Bang on! People do, however, use it because there currently is no realistic widely deployed alternative available. Those that are currently available (e.g. SPF) are not widely deployed, and in any case are far from perfect. Whilst we have no hammer, people will

Re: BGP - weight

2004-02-18 Thread Sven Huster
Thanks for anyone who answered. Guess, we sorted it out now. Sven On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 07:31:46PM +, E.B. Dreger wrote: ... SH As this is a small network internally everything is routed SH via static routes. Except for the smallest of networks, I try to avoid static routes.

standard transit arrangements

2004-02-18 Thread Sven Huster
Hello I just wanted to find out what the standard arrangements are when one buys transit traffic. I've been left in charge of this now, without haven't been doing this before :-( So what normally you buy x amount of bandwidth over a physical line e.g. 45Mb/s over FastEthernet or so. They

Re: Problems on ATDN this evening?

2004-02-18 Thread Jon Mitchell
Looks like a problem with the first CW router in the path (hop 10) or somewhere on it's path back to you, not reproducible this morning. No congestion between ATDN and CW on that link last night. As for contacts, it's appropriate you call your RR technical support. However, ATDN issues can be

Cogeco Cable listening?

2004-02-18 Thread Christopher Chin
Howdy, If someone from Cogeco.net (AS7992) is onboard, please contact me off-list. Thanks, - Christopher ==

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:08:25 +1300, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The RFC for mail was very well designed. If people simply stuck to the orginal RFC (~800 something) and managed more of their own small systems then this spam thing just wouldn't be the problem that it has become... would

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Folks, TH If you insist on restricting the service to a small set of 'approved' TH applications, people will simply encapsulate what they really want to do in TH the approved service and you will lose visibility. A small elaboration: You will make life intolerable for the average user -- ie,

RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Tony Hain
Dave Crocker wrote: Folks, TH If you insist on restricting the service to a small set of 'approved' TH applications, people will simply encapsulate what they really want to do in TH the approved service and you will lose visibility. A small elaboration: You will make life

Equinix 350 E. Cermak - Contact Please

2004-02-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Will an employee of the Equinix corporation please contact me off-list? This is regarding equipment delivery issues at 350 E. Cermak.

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Guðbjörn S . Hreinsson
I think that the registration oriented authentication mechanisms (spf, rmx, lmap, etc.) can be useful only when the authenticator is the hosting network provider, rather than a message author. I think widespread use of SPF will gut the major sources of spam. The problem with spam proxies

Re: 80/udp floods?

2004-02-18 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
Yes, this seems to be a common thing these days. You send udp/LAGE udp packets and fragments to port 80 to saturate bandwidth and you combine that with compromised hosts successively opening and closing TCP connections to port 80 (Not a syn flood, actual connections that look to the router in

Re: 80/udp floods?

2004-02-18 Thread Deepak Jain
Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: Yes, this seems to be a common thing these days. You send udp/LAGE udp packets and fragments to port 80 to saturate bandwidth and you combine that with compromised hosts successively opening and closing TCP connections to port 80 (Not a syn flood, actual connections

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Guðbjörn, I think that the registration oriented authentication mechanisms (spf, rmx, lmap, etc.) can be useful only when the authenticator is the hosting network provider, rather than a message author. GSH I think widespread use of SPF will gut the major sources of spam. Well, it will gut

firstam.com contact

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Greetings, Could someone from First American get in touch with me off list? There seems to be a malfunctioning mail server in the firstam.com domain.. Thanks, Jonathan

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Guðbjörn S . Hreinsson
I think that the registration oriented authentication mechanisms (spf, rmx, lmap, etc.) can be useful only when the authenticator is the hosting network provider, rather than a message author. GSH I think widespread use of SPF will gut the major sources of spam. Well, it will gut a

Re: 80/udp floods?

2004-02-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Wayne E. Bouchard [2/19/2004 6:16 AM] : Easy enough to fend off except for the TCP 80 bit. For most of these attacks, I've taken to just filtering the entire LACNIC and APNIC address delegations at the host level for the durration of the incident since, in the general case, my customers (the

Anycast and windows servers

2004-02-18 Thread Sean Donelan
How well does Anycast work with Windows 2000 or XP servers? Is the Microsoft OSPF implementation good enough to use or do people port another routing implementation? Yeah, I know about Unix/Linux. All the large scale anycast deployments I know about are on unix, but I was wondering if anyone

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Dr. Jeffrey Race
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:06:05 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any real solution is going to have to deal with the fact that properly administered systems are in the distinct minority. You shut the mal-administered systems of from the internet until they are no lnger a threat to the internet,

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-18 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Alex Bligh wrote: they in turn chose to trust. Take BGP (by which I mean eBGP) as the case in point: [...] The trust relationship is important, [...]. BGP allows me (in commonly deployed form) to run a relatively secure protocol between peers, and deploy (almost)