Re: ARIN Comment

2004-07-02 Thread Alexei Roudnev
If you think a little - having hundreds of web services, it is reasonable _do not renumber_. Of course, it will require extra efforts when getting IP block(s) or require do not change main provider(s). - Original Message - From: Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Patrick W

RE: Peering point speed publicly available?

2004-07-02 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Of course individual links are likely to have little difference .. it'll come down to a combination of the smallest link between source and destination and the end to end latency. Steve On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Cody Lerum wrote: Work with the network operators on each side of the link to

Yahoo and Intel e-mail servers

2004-07-02 Thread Simon Brilus
Hi - I've tried multiple methods to get BOGONs and blacklisted IP's removed from these domains with very limited success, so could someone from these companies respond to meoffline, if possible,concerning our IP ranges being denied access to send e-mails Many thanks Simon Simon

Re: [Fwd: [IP] Intriguing Progress of China's IPv9 Network Technology]

2004-07-02 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 15:04, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: SNIP From ChinaTechNews.com: China's New Generation Of IPv9 Network Technology Ready http://www.iana.org/assignments/version-numbers 8--- Assigned Internet Version Numbers Decimal KeywordVersion

Re: [Fwd: [IP] Intriguing Progress of China's IPv9 Network Technology]

2004-07-02 Thread Timo Mohre
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 15:04, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: [...] From ChinaTechNews.com: China's New Generation Of IPv9 Network Technology Ready July 2, 2004 At the New Generation Internet Ten-Digit Network Industrialization Development Seminar held on June 25th at Zhejiang

Re: [Fwd: [IP] Intriguing Progress of China's IPv9 Network Technology]

2004-07-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Timo Mohre wrote: Hmmm... IPv9 born again? http://rfc.net/rfc1606.html this seems to be a new (and possibly hot air) product though, rather than rehashing of an old joke. though, what's surprising is who's going to deploy this ipv9 across all the networks they say they'll deploy it.

Re: [Fwd: [IP] Intriguing Progress of China's IPv9 Network Technology]

2004-07-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
It may be just me, but the choice of version number makes me think that Jim Fleming may be involved in this. Regards Marshall Eubanks On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:34:21 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: [IP] Intriguing Progress

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Joe Abley
On 2 Jul 2004, at 00:18, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: So, I thought of it like this: 1) Rodney/Centergate/UltraDNS knows where all their 35000billion copies of the 2 .org TLD boxes are, what network pieces they are connected to at which bandwidths and the current utilization 2)

Re: Peering point speed publicly available?

2004-07-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:09:52 -0500 Erik Amundson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question regarding information on my ISP's peering relationships. Are the speeds of some or all peering relationships public knowledge, and if so, where can I find this? By speed, I mean bandwidth (DS3, OC3,

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 10:22:09AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: This leaves the anycast servers providing all the optimisation that they are good for (local nameserver in toplogically distant networks; distributed DDoS traffic sink; reduced transaction RTT) and provides a

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Dr. Jeffrey Race
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:22:09 -0400, Joe Abley wrote: With the fix above, the problem becomes hey, *some* of the nameservers for ORG are dead! We should fix that, but since not *all* of them are dead, at least ORG still works. Sorry, I missed the top of this thread. I cannot mail an ORG

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Joe Abley
On 2 Jul 2004, at 10:43, Leo Bicknell wrote: Note in the later pages what happens to particular servers under packet loss. They all start to show an affinity for a subset of the servers. It's been said that by putting some non-anycasted servers in with the anycasted servers what can happen is

Re: Need 3M System Admin contact

2004-07-02 Thread Robert Bonomi
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 2 10:35:42 2004 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NANOG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need 3M System Admin contact Dear NANOG, Anyone know how to contact responsible mail admin for 3M corp? The whois contact

Weekly Routing Table Report

2004-07-02 Thread Routing Table Analysis
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 03 Jul, 2004

Re: Who broke .org?

2004-07-02 Thread Jeff Wasilko
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:12:31PM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: Come to think about it, there was a thread here a while back about this very thing. root server robustness and all that. What number/timeframe reported .org hiccup does this make? It's at least the 2nd. Last big one was

Re: Who broke .org?

2004-07-02 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Jul 2, 2004, at 2:32 PM, Jeff Wasilko wrote: Can't we just go back to non-anycast, please? You mean like the roots Er, wait a second Now, if you suggest a combination, that might be reasonable. (I don't run .org, I just think a blanket statement anycast is bad is, well, bad.) --

Re: Who broke .org?

2004-07-02 Thread Jeff Wasilko
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:38:12PM -0400, Patrick W Gilmore wrote: On Jul 2, 2004, at 2:32 PM, Jeff Wasilko wrote: Can't we just go back to non-anycast, please? You mean like the roots Er, wait a second Now, if you suggest a combination, that might be reasonable. (I don't

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Joe Abley wrote: All the failure modes that ISC has seen with anycast nameserver instances can be avoided (for the authoritative DNS service as a whole) by including one or more non-anycast nameservers in the NS set. Am I missing something.. So you say: 10.1.0.1

Donation of cisco netflow export from production router?

2004-07-02 Thread Dan Lockwood
Hello everyone, I'm working on a project to characterize and summarize traffic info using netflow. I have completed a prototype and have been testing it on our network but would like to see how it performs with some 'real' traffic. Is there someone out there that wouldn't mind exporting some

latest caida analysis of transit vs stuff, multihomed vs single-homed ASs

2004-07-02 Thread k claffy
using RouteViews data http://www.caida.org/analysis/routing/astypes/ k

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Matt Ghali
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Leo Bicknell wrote: So the question is not so much is 500ms towards the server bad, it's can I build a single server (cluster) that will take all the load worldwide when the client software does bad things. DNS traffic, surprisingly, is not very fat. It is no HTTP nor

Re: Peering point speed publicly available?

2004-07-02 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS
On or about July 1 2004, Erik allegedly at myevilempire.net Amundson allegedly asked about peering point bandwidth. Some North American ISPs will tell you that under non-disclosure, but almost all of them will point you to their standards for peering, and you won't find many Tier 1 ISPs that

Re: Peering point speed publicly available?

2004-07-02 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 07:09:52PM -0500, Erik Amundson wrote: NANOG, I have a question regarding information on my ISP's peering relationships. Are the speeds of some or all peering relationships public knowledge, and if so, where can I find this? By speed, I mean bandwidth (DS3, OC3,

concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?]

2004-07-02 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Jul 2, 2004, at 9:31 PM, Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS wrote: Also, if you're dealing with ISPs that use public peering points, those may be a performance concern, but in the US that's mostly not Tier1-Tier1. (Linx is a different case entirely, assuming you want your traffic to be in

Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publi cly available?]

2004-07-02 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Indeed, I agree. I remember earlier times when there were serious concerns over serious traffic bottlenecks, primarily due to the lag in speed-of-bits-on-the-wire technology ramp up. I recall the NSFnet backbone at a whopping 56kb trunk speed prior to the node transition(s)! We, collectively,