Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Edward B. Dreger
RKJ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 01:43:50 -0300 RKJ From: Rubens Kuhl Jr. RKJ Try booting into safe mode before running software to detect RKJ or remove spyware; some of them fight to survive if they are Also use msconfig to disable non-critical extras. Some of us have manually ripped out ActiveX

Re: OT: Re: Critters

2004-07-12 Thread Jeff Cole
Marshall Eubanks wrote: Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if they have any tiger stories. Oh no. You find lions only in Kenya Jeff

ABA to create standards for online authentication

2004-07-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Scott Savage wrote: now because it is easy money and easy to get away with. I laugh every time I see those Citibank identity theft ads on TV because, as funny as they are, they speak the truth. Cell providers are the worst offenders of all. Sydney, July 12, 2004: The

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-12 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Matt Larson wrote: VeriSign Naming and Directory Services (VNDS) currently generates new versions of the .com/.net zones files twice per day. VNDS is scheduled to deploy on September 8, 2004 a new feature that will enable VNDS to update the .com/.net zones more

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread William Warren
coolwebsearch has become more and more sneaky..so bad that development of cws shredder has been abandoned by its developerEither serious lock down you ie(which with CWS is not going to help) or use something other than ie. Edward B. Dreger wrote: RKJ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 01:43:50 -0300

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Gregh
- Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:04 PM Subject: Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious coolwebsearch has become more and more sneaky..so bad that development of cws shredder has been abandoned by

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Gregh
- Original Message - From: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Indeed. Lately, I have not been able to clean a very annoying piece of crud named

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, William Warren wrote: coolwebsearch has become more and more sneaky..so bad that development of cws shredder has been abandoned by its developerEither serious lock down you ie(which with CWS is not going to help) or use something other than ie.

RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Michel Py
William Warren wrote: coolwebsearch has become more and more sneaky..so bad that development of cws shredder has been abandoned by its developer The smart computer does not exist (if it did, we would not have a job, would we? ;-) Either serious lock down you ie (which with CWS is not

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 04:18:34PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: somebody, probably sean, mentioned scaling earlier in this thread. coolwebsearch has become more and more sneaky.. so bad that development of cws shredder has been abandoned by its developer.. ... the first time only about

RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Michel Py
Paul Vixie wrote: or, to put it in terms you can all understand: why does that provider's upstream still have bgp peers? Maybe said upstream does not want to deal with TROs and legal issues? CWS is not illegal as of today. if you give people the means to hurt you, and they do it, and you

RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Hannigan, Martin
This appears to have been dealt with at the browser level in MS Security Bulletin MS03-011. I have a hard time blaming MS for everything since in most cases of these things they do react. How do they force the users to update? Could they implement a switch that says no update, no working

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Daniel Golding
On 7/12/04 12:33 PM, Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Vixie wrote: or, to put it in terms you can all understand: why does that provider's upstream still have bgp peers? Maybe said upstream does not want to deal with TROs and legal issues? CWS is not illegal as of today. CWS

RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread David Schwartz
On 7/12/04 12:33 PM, Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some peering contracts specify that behaviors that endanger a network or its users allow for immediate disconnection. Its a bit of a stretch to invoke this for a spyware site. I think you could find a few experts that could

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Christopher Woodfield
I think depeering is a bit over the top for this situation, but I wouldn't blink at nullrouting the prefix in question at my cores... :) I guess the big question is, is there anyone (other than those profiting directly from CWS) that would complain if a provider were to do such a thing... -C

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: http://www.webhelper4u.com/CWS/cwsoriginial.html These folks? Looks like it's all Cogent. Surely someone has contacted Cogent about this? I'm sure someone has. The real question should be, does cogent care?

Re: OT: Re: Critters

2004-07-12 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Jeff Cole wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if they have any tiger stories. Oh no. You find lions only in Kenya Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my! Err wait, which way to OZ again?

Re: OT: Re: Critters

2004-07-12 Thread Dorian Kim
On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 04:16:06AM -0400, Jeff Cole wrote: Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if they have any tiger stories. Oh no. You find lions only in Kenya This is sooo way OT, but given the subject line... There is still a remnant population of

Re: OT: Re: Critters

2004-07-12 Thread Jeff Shultz
** Reply to message from Tom (UnitedLayer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Jeff Cole wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if they have any tiger stories. Oh no. You find

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread David A . Ulevitch
On Jul 12, 2004, at 11:20 AM, Christopher Woodfield wrote: I think depeering is a bit over the top for this situation, but I wouldn't blink at nullrouting the prefix in question at my cores... :) I guess the big question is, is there anyone (other than those profiting directly from CWS) that

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Paul Vixie
I think depeering is a bit over the top for this situation, ... if their customer was sucking blood from your customer, and if your peer was taking a cut of the proceeds, would the issues be any clearer? I guess the big question is, is there anyone (other than those profiting directly from

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Gregh
- Original Message - From: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gregh [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:41 AM Subject: RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Gregh wrote: Are you honestly serious? I came up against it for the first time only

Re: OT: Re: Critters

2004-07-12 Thread Robert Bonomi
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 12 14:51:58 2004 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom (UnitedLayer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeff Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'nanog list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Critters On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Jeff Cole wrote: Marshall Eubanks

Re: OT: Re: Critters

2004-07-12 Thread Robert Bonomi
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Jeff Cole wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: Reliance Infocomm is installing 80,000 km of fiber in India. I wonder if they have any tiger stories. Oh no. You find lions only in Kenya Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh

Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread William Warren
not all the variants are that easy..how about doing a google on coolwebsearch..scumware.com has a good writeup as well as spywareinfo.com...the newer variants are not that easy Gregh wrote: - Original Message - From: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gregh [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: ABA to create standards for online authentication

2004-07-12 Thread Jamie C . Pole
David Bell, Chief Executive of the ABA, said: Online banking systems are secure and have not been hacked. Oh, yeah? This guy is on dope if he actually believes that... While I will grant that online banking systems are among (maybe amongst?) the most secure that we deal with, to say that

RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious

2004-07-12 Thread Brian Battle
William Warren wrote: not all the variants are that easy..how about doing a google on coolwebsearch..scumware.com has a good writeup as well as spywareinfo.com...the newer variants are not that easy I second that. The version I saw required a third party registry editor and booting up