On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:11:58 -0700
David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obligation to _whom_? My only obligations are to those who _pay_ me for
access to my systems/resources. If the people who *do* pay me for use of
my systems/resources don't want that cr*p, then I do 'have an
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Morris
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Not that I have a whole lot to add (other than we're spending lots of time
talking about something only affecting UK --: US flights at this moment)...
Actually, it was affecting UK-anywhere flights (including anywhere-US
David Schwartz wrote:
Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual obligations.
Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you have no
contract with that person, you have a tort obligation not to destroy it.
The nonsense is here! I am not a lawyer,
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
David Schwartz wrote:
Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual
obligations.
Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you have no
contract with that person, you have a tort obligation not to destroy it.
The
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:11:58 PDT, David Schwartz said:
Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual obligations.
Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you have no
contract with that person, you have a tort obligation not to destroy it.
Of course,
On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:11:58 PDT, David Schwartz said:
Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual
obligations.
Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you
have no
contract with that person, you
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:44:03 CDT, J. Oquendo said:
Watch the flows, block the users from communicating out to them. Watch
these users and see where else they are communicating in comparison to
other users, en-masse.
Breaking laws here if you ask me. Watching flows. Isn't this an illegal
Hi,
My parents flew back from New York to Manchester yesterday - complete
with clear plastic bag - less cough syrup which was refused entry onto
the plane.
Ti it seems to be (some) flights terminating in the UK not simply
originating there.
Ben
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Who forwards NANOG posts to a blogger gateway? You, me, and a claw-hammer need to have a chat.Begin forwarded message:From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: August 14, 2006 12:30:17 PM EDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Blogger post failed Blogger does not accept multipart/signed files.Error code:
http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets
thanks, didn't know about it. But isn't it still usefull, when urgent
matters concerning botnets will still discussed on the nanog-list?
Please let me disabussed to it, but it's just my opinion.
almost everything that happens in
Derek J. Balling wrote:
Who forwards NANOG posts to a blogger gateway? You, me, and a claw-
hammer need to have a chat.
Not me, but what is interesting is that I've not seen any evidence of
that when I post.
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:42:31PM +, Paul Vixie wrote:
http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets
thanks, didn't know about it. But isn't it still usefull, when urgent
matters concerning botnets will still discussed on the nanog-list?
Please let me disabussed
On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Who forwards NANOG posts to a blogger gateway? You, me, and a
claw- hammer need to have a chat.
Not me, but what is interesting is that I've not seen any evidence
of that when I post.
Are you using multipart/signed messages?
Derek J. Balling wrote:
On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Who forwards NANOG posts to a blogger gateway? You, me, and a claw-
hammer need to have a chat.
Not me, but what is interesting is that I've not seen any evidence of
that when I post.
Are you using
Thomas Kuehling wrote:
Dear Fergie,
On So, 2006-08-13 at 21:49 +, Fergie wrote:
For what it's worth, there _is_ a botnet discussison list:
General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets
thanks, didn't know about it. But
I'm not a list moderator either, anymore. I spent enough time moderating
the NANOG list to get thoroughly disgusted with those who need babysitters
to supervise them in a professional forum. I'm sure the current group of
volunteer moderators would appreciate some common sense and common
Greetings,
Today (Aug 14th 2006) AS 8437 announced 63 /8 nets from 14:30 to 15:00
UTC. I don't believe that this is normal, but please correct me if I
am wrong.
More info can be found at the Internet Alert Registry here:
http://cs.unm.edu/~karlinjf/IAR/prefix.php?filter=most
If you come to
Today (Aug 14th 2006) AS 8437 announced 63 /8 nets from 14:30 to 15:00
UTC. I don't believe that this is normal, but please correct me if I
am wrong.
have you written to tele2uta in asutria?
randy
Can a Qwest engineer send me an offlist email pertaining to a DS3.
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You do realize that when we talk about sending data we are using
language in a very loose way, right? Data isn't actually sent. When I
send a packet of data, I still retain that data. If you lose it you
have only lost your copy of it, not mine.
The packet
The thread was originally very benefitial (for me, as
we use SORBS and provide some basic SMTP services), despite
being somewhat off-topic for NANOG... but has now evolved into
the Battle of Awful Analogies(tm). Discussions of this type
always resort to the same analogy, for that matter: cars.
Yes but no response yet.
On 8/14/06, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today (Aug 14th 2006) AS 8437 announced 63 /8 nets from 14:30 to 15:00
UTC. I don't believe that this is normal, but please correct me if I
am wrong.
have you written to tele2uta in asutria?
randy
Can a Qwest engineer send me an offlist email pertaining to a DS3.
Oh goody a genuine on-topic one liner, with 13 lines of .sig.
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 01:36:36PM -0600, Josh Karlin wrote:
Greetings,
Today (Aug 14th 2006) AS 8437 announced 63 /8 nets from 14:30 to 15:00
UTC. I don't believe that this is normal, but please correct me if I
am wrong.
Note they're all unallocated blocks, so probably someone's
Ah, I believe you're right. Thanks for clearing it up! I had looked
up a couple of the prefixes to see if they had owners and I thought I
had seen one, but I must have made a typo.
I like my swimming pool of lava thank you very much :p
Josh
On 8/14/06, Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL
On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 13:29, Robert Bonomi wrote:
If you want 'reliable' delivery, you _pay_ the recieving system (and the
intermediaries) for that service. Your lack of patience with something
other people _give_ you the free use of is, quite simply, an inexcusable
display of arrogance
Last time I saw someone so strenously crying that 'thou must accept
mail' and trying so hard to justify why we should accept it was a low
life toss pot scum sucking spammer, ooops I mean direct marketer, ahh
stuf fit, both the same thing ...not implying anything here but if
the shoe fits
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 02:13, Derek J. Balling wrote:
Of course, that only applies if you're dumb enough to answer '250
OK' to
the '.' after the DATA. You 5xx that puppy anywhere before that,
and you
haven't taken custody of that data...
This is ridiculous (not your argument,
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