Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Paul Vixie wrote: and yet, when i consider my nontechnical friends with their DSL and cablemodem connections, i know that if they get hit by an exploding DLL, their ISP is one of the likely places they will place a call. For assistance with Microsoft security issues in

Re: Removal of my name

2006-09-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Randy Bush wrote: but there are a couple of more significant issues being discussed over there, those surrounding the community's desires for maintaining mailing list archive integrity. Personally I find it sad that at the prospect of a list archive being censored,

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Alexander Gall
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:41:41 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Paul, what exponent does the new key use? (I clicked on the public key link, but I can't decode the base64 that easily...) Here's a fairly simple way to extract e: $ for rdata in `dig dlv.isc.org. dnskey +short

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Michael . Dillon
i've assumed that the hardcore bgp engineering community now meets elsewhere. Or perhaps BGP engineering hasn't changed in so many years that it is now more than adequately covered by books, certificate courses, and internal sharing of expertise. Lists are good for things that are new or

Have you really got clue?

2006-09-22 Thread Michael . Dillon
that, and a thread where half of the posts are from the initial poster himself anyway. but then, happily watching him, at least he is creative in topics... i am mentally killfilling his threads anyway, less and less relevant. it is scary what stuff is discussed lately. -ako OK, Alexander

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Michael . Dillon
To the people who say we throw in the towel and just say Gadi will never stop posting off-topic crap, so why bother trying to correct him?, I'd suggest that this is a self-defeating attitude. Not only because Gadi could actually be posting useful stuff if set on the right path as to what

RE: Have you really got clue?

2006-09-22 Thread Farrell,Bob
Well said. He can't respond right now, his computer has been infected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:18 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Have you really got clue? that, and a thread

RE: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Lincoln Dale
P.S. Note that I do not agree that anyone has yet tried to correct Gadi. i guess what i've found most bemusing about this whole thread is -- i went looking for the first email Gadi posted. turns out that his posting habits have convinced Outlook that his email is junk - and _all_ of his posts

Potentially on-Topic: is MSNBot for real?

2006-09-22 Thread Mark Foster
On a website I host with nearly 9000 unique visits month-to-date (thats visits, not hits) a full 20% of the recorded 'hits' (Hitcount is ~40,000) are being generated by 'msnbot'. We see this as a large amount of http traffic from IP addresses owned by Microsoft. I've actually seen this

[Closed-Dead-OT-CloseMe]Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Myke Lyons
On 22 Sep 2006, at 11:06, Lincoln Dale wrote: P.S. Note that I do not agree that anyone has yet tried to correct Gadi. i guess what i've found most bemusing about this whole thread is -- i went looking for the first email Gadi posted. turns out that his posting habits have convinced

BGP Update Report

2006-09-22 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 08-Sep-06 -to- 21-Sep-06 (14 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS4637 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS855 20458 1.9% 35.8 -- CANET-ASN-4 - Aliant Telecom 2 - AS17974 19425

The Cidr Report

2006-09-22 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 22 21:45:37 2006 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table

Re: Potentially on-Topic: is MSNBot for real?

2006-09-22 Thread Simon Waters
On Friday 22 Sep 2006 11:39, you wrote: Is this unusual, or what? Are search engines supposed to be amongst the biggest user agents recorded on a typical website? How much trolling and indexing is considered 'too much' ? Whenever it becomes a problem. If you don't have enough genuine

Re: Have you really got clue?

2006-09-22 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if anyone else here thinks they know what is on topic, please tell us. I am getting bored by the flood of negative messages that say only You can't say that here. Please stop telling us what you cannot say on NANOG. If you really must register your discontent

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Pete Templin
Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Unless we're ready to admit that NANOG is completely and totally worthless as a forum for discussing network operations, people NEED to step up and take responsibility for the self policing that we're all supposed to be doing in srh's absence. I think you meant

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:11:20 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps BGP engineering hasn't changed in so many years that it is now more than adequately covered by books, certificate courses, and internal sharing of expertise. Lists are good for things that are new or confusing or

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Donelan) writes: For assistance with Microsoft security issues in the US, call (866) PC-SAFETY according to http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2019162,00.asp, microsoft has not released a patch for the VML thing, so calling (866) PC-SAFETY isn't going to be a

Re: Have you really got clue?

2006-09-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 9/22/06, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is pretty simple, really. These are examples of the topics that are on-topic. 1. that posting is off-topic. 2. somebody with clue from ${SmallUnknownOperator} (e.g. AOL) please contact me off list about a connectivity issue.:

Weekly Routing Table Report

2006-09-22 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith [EMAIL

Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day

2006-09-22 Thread Barry Shein
Once again, ONE arguably off-topic post, followed by a non-stop stream of DOZENS of messages, for days, by self-appointed listcops. I'm sorry if the only thing which prompts you, and you know who you are, to post is that little rush of self-righteous adrenaline upon seeing a message you think

Microsoft Support (was Re: tech support being flooded due to IE 0day)

2006-09-22 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Paul Vixie wrote: For assistance with Microsoft security issues in the US, call (866) PC-SAFETY last but not least, according to http://isotf.org/zert/ there is a non-MSFT patch for the VML thing. i don't expect ISP's to recommend its use, due to liability reasons, but

Re: Removal of my name

2006-09-22 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:38:15AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: at least a rather updated version of ucb mail, that also does imap / pop / ssl / smtp + auth etc heirloom mailx aka nail - http://nail.sourceforge.net Try: http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/mailx.html. Moved to

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 01:37:40PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On 21 Sep 2006 17:01:45 +, Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, what exponent does the new key use? (I clicked on the public key link, but I can't decode the base64 that easily...) it was made with bind9's

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Fergie
Hmmm. It wouldn't have anything to do with prime numbers, now would it? :-) - ferg -- Joseph S D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Steve has pointed out that 3 is recommended for DNSSEC, and NIST likes 65537 [2^16 + 1]. I don't have the maths to say why, so I'll leave it at that. --

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:39:51PM +, Fergie wrote: Hmmm. It wouldn't have anything to do with prime numbers, now would it? :-) Well, yes, but there are an infinite number of them. Of course, 17 is the most prime of them all. -- Joe Yao

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Gregory Hicks
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:55:39 -0400 From: Joseph S D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fergie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:39:51PM +, Fergie wrote: Hmmm. It wouldn't have anything

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:29:31 -0400, Joseph S D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not having committed the maths to heart, I might be able to explain it a little differently. Well, yes, I did just teach the RSA equations to my Network Security class --Steven M. Bellovin,

Re: Potentially on-Topic: is MSNBot for real?

2006-09-22 Thread Mark Foster
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Simon Waters wrote: On Friday 22 Sep 2006 11:39, you wrote: Is this unusual, or what? Are search engines supposed to be amongst the biggest user agents recorded on a typical website? How much trolling and indexing is considered 'too much' ? Whenever it becomes a

Re: fyi-- [dns-operations] early key rollover for dlv.isc.org

2006-09-22 Thread Fergie
But of course. So ask yourself; What is special about 3 and 65537? - ferg -- Joseph S D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:39:51PM +, Fergie wrote: Hmmm. It wouldn't have anything to do with prime numbers, now would it? :-) Well, yes, but there are an infinite