On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
In another message, William B. Norton wrote:
I wish we had a metric for the community value of the nanog list.
I think that if the mailing list was moved from merit to its own server, and
out from under the tyranny of majordomo to mailman, that
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
[snip]
Sure, but not really my point. In fact, sadly enough, the merit
majordomo does not even allow the which command, and that is just
plain dumb. Stupid. Silly.
Upon reflection, I regret that comment. Perhaps I might have phrased it
differently, had I reflected a bit
On 20-Feb-2007, at 11:05, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
[snip]
Sure, but not really my point. In fact, sadly enough, the merit
majordomo does not even allow the which command, and that is
just plain dumb. Stupid. Silly.
Upon reflection, I regret that comment. Perhaps I might
On 20-Feb-2007, at 14:26, Martin Hannigan wrote:
On 20-Feb-2007, at 13:25, Martin Hannigan wrote:
And this should be requirements driven instead of
brand driven.
I have no reason to think that isn't happening.
That wasn't necessarily directed at you or Madame Etaoin.
I know :-)
How about a survey of the mailing list members to see what they think? -
Simon J. Lyall
Considering that this is a mailing list to supplement the NANOG meetings how
about if we restrict the poll participants to people who have attended a
NANOG in the last 12 months!
Ron
Simon Lyall wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, William B. Norton wrote:
I wish we had a metric for the community value of the nanog list...
How about a survey of the mailing list members to see what they think?
I'd suggest that this idea, while seemingly a simple answer, neglects
the
Ron Muir wrote:
Simon J. Lyall wrote:
How about a survey of the mailing list members to see what they think?
Considering that this is a mailing list to supplement the NANOG meetings how
about if we restrict the poll participants to people who have attended a
NANOG in the last 12 months!
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Pop quiz, bonus round: how much does it cost Comcast to defend its
mail servers from Verizon's spam, and vice versa? Heck, how much
does it cost Comcast to defend its mail servers from its own spam?
How much do they spend on abuse/customer security?
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:04:13PM +, Simon Waters wrote:
I simply don't believe the higher figures bandied about in the discussion for
compromised hosts. Certainly Microsoft's malware team report a high level of
trojans around, but they include things like the Jar files downloaded onto
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Hi Rich,
snip good stuff thanks for your input, Rich. As always, quite
interesting.
BTW #2: All of this leaves open an important and likely-unanswerable
question: how many systems are compromised but not as yet manifesting
any external sign of it?
--- Rich Kulawiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(e.g. the Verizon
FIOS deployment, if I
may use hostnames of the form *.fios.verizon.net as
a guide, is going
well in NYC, Dallas, DC, Tampa, Philly, LA, Boston
and Newark, but lags
behind in Seattle, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and
Syracuse.)
One
Anyone know what's going on?
--
Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors
into trouble of all kinds.
-- Samuel Butler
Subject: Interland dead?
Anyone know what's going on?
Wasn't some portion of their assets acquired by Peer 1?
-Randy
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 17:57 -0700, Michael Loftis wrote:
Anyone know what's going on?
Last year, :-), Interland dedicated hosting went to Peer1 and Interland
web hosting went to/became web.com.
-Jim P.
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If you can't measure a problem, its difficult to tell if you are
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
I don't understand why you don't believe those numbers. The estimates
that people are making are based on externally-observed known-hostile
behavior by
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
If you can't measure a problem, its difficult to tell if you are
making things better or worse.
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
I don't understand why you don't believe those numbers. The estimates
that people are making are based
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- -- Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And this is before we get into the academic off-topic discussion of what a
bot actually is, which after almost 11 years of dealing with these I find
difficult to define. Is it an IP address? A computer?
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