Hello Todd:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Christell
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Subject: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT)
Greetings,
Sorry if this is OT but we are having a discussion with our HR
In regards to gold-plating, it makes a difference if it's average-schedule
or cost-company. If it's the latter, then yes, all actual costs are
including in building the rate base.
Frank
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From: Frank Bulk
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NOC Knuklehead? Hummm? Nocklehead!
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
- Technical Support Representative
- Network Administrator
- Senior Network Administrator
Or, you could just call them all booger eaters and be done with it.
Booger Eater
Anyway, I have a friend who used managed to get Not A Janitor on his
business card.
Rear Admiral was my favorite business card title if only because that
was also the caller ID on my phone (I managed the PBX at the time).
I've seen Systems/Unix/DNS Ninja. At my current job I make breakfast
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 19:47 -0600, Todd Christell wrote:
Greetings,
Sorry if this is OT but we are having a discussion with our HR
department. We are in the process of getting a 24 X 7 NOC in place and
HR has a problem with calling them NOC Specialist. What is the
generally accepted
Verizon.
Jamie Bowden
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To: Jamie
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:31:59AM -0500, Dave Pooser wrote:
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Our marketing guy was the IS Manager before I cam on board, and still helps
cover for me when I'm on vacation or otherwise out of town. So in addition
to his real business cards he has some that have Backup Information
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 09:49:36AM -0400, Donald Stahl wrote:
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Has anyone thought to clearly define these titles somewhere so that
everyone can standardize on them?
There are SAGE System Administrator levels, well defined and accepted by
most of those who have heard of them. Would they
Making you the I.T.C.H., of course.
Nah, we decided I'm the Primary Information Management Professional.
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Dave Pooser, ACSA
Manager of Information Services
Alford Media http://www.alfordmedia.com
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 09:49:36AM -0400, Donald Stahl wrote:
We call our level 1 NOC people Operators. We reserve Network Analyst for
the level 2 people who also do some small amount of scripting and other
more advanced troubleshooting. Network Analyst makes me think of Stock
Analysts,
1) Expected to have above-average UNIX skills, above-average exposure to
DNS (understanding SOAs, must have familiarity with dig, etc.),
familiarity with HTTP (manual fetches/form queries, etc.), SSH and
...
and do not hire people who tote themselves as superior or too proud to
work in a
i don't know about most nocs. but the few to which i have been close
have had three or four levels of folk, from competent techs to darned
good ip engineers. i know folk in the verio, ntt, iij, ... nocs that i
would rather have backing me up than some of my fellow prima donna
global internet
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Frank Bulk wrote:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151
Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive
providers?
Frank
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Just curious, should small responsive providers
Gadi Evron wrote:
Anyway, I have a friend who used managed to get Not A Janitor on his
business card.
My all-time favorite business card was one from Autodesk from the chief
financial officer, who appeared to be a real Niven fan:
Speaker to Bankers
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Frank Bulk wrote:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151
Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive
providers?
Frank
Just curious, should small
Network Analyst is common.
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NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT)
Sorry if this is OT but we are having a discussion with our HR
department. We are in the process of
All companies in all industries have a policy of stopping to provide
their services if a customer stops paying or violates the contract, I
really don't see this as a big/little provider argument.
Yes, the small provider should be multi-homed, otherwise a fiber cut or
outage can have this same
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 09:49:36AM -0400, Donald Stahl wrote:
Anyway, I have a friend who used managed to get Not A Janitor on his
business card.
Rear Admiral was my favorite business card title if only because that
was also the caller ID on my phone (I managed the PBX at the time).
My
la Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:03:17 -0400
la From: list account
la In my limited experience ARIN seems to not want to work with the
la small operator.
Half a dozen years back, I'd have agreed and then some. For the past
few years, I'd beg to differ.
Judging by the rest of your message, I
Could be considered off-topic because it is humor.
I guess a lot of US network operators are going to have to change their
DNS entries because apparently the rDNS policies are now set by federal
law.
http://www.au.sorbs.net/~matthew/funny/rDNS-set-by-federal-law.txt
Regards,
Mat
Not knowing anything about the case other than what I read in the
article, my hang up is that a transit provider can make a phone call
and destroy a customer's business with 30 minutes notice. On a DS3
that has actual real lead time to replace, that's a business killer.
The argument of
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Frank Bulk wrote:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151
Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive
providers?
Even from that one-sided account, I have serious problems with:
Siwert said the Colorado-based Level 3 cited
Typical SORBS behavior. While this guy can demand all he wants, doesn't
mean he will get what he wants or that he's right or wrong.
Personally, we gave up using SORBS because of it's very high
false-positive ratio and we got tired of hearing customers who were
upset because they didn't get
On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Frank Bulk wrote:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151
Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive
providers?
Even from that one-sided account, I have serious problems with:
Nothing is wrong with what he posted. The guy is a moron. However, I
was taking my 15 min of fame to jab at SORBS policy of listing people on
their respective lists. It's dysfunctional and broken, but that again
is just my opinion.
Oh and, of course publicly humiliating the guy is
Steve Sobol wrote (on Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:31:44PM -0400):
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, S. Ryan wrote:
Personally, we gave up using SORBS because of it's very high
false-positive ratio
YMMV; at $DAYJOB we don't seem to have the same problem.
I gave up using SORBS (and I'm not Mat's
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, S. Ryan wrote:
Oh and, of course publicly humiliating the guy is certainly not that
cool. However, while it's not really above me to do the same, he could
have removed the email address so spammers aren't adding to that guys
list of problems.
Fair enough.
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Nothing is wrong with what he posted. The guy is a moron. However, I
was taking my 15 min of fame to jab at SORBS policy of listing people on
their respective lists.
when 42 other folk have similarly whined, i am not sure the word 'fame'
is appropriate
randy
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